First post - don't shoot

[urbansix]

I don't have a Mag yet but am suddenly lusting after a Tac1.....The tac1 stole my milling design for my yet unrealized project frankencocker ghetto-tactical marker. :cuss: might save me alot of work though...

I need to learn everything I can about Mags now - is there a glossary somewhere? X - RT - Intelly - level10 - classic - 98 - ULE - bla bla bla i'm so confrused...

Need to find a place that will let me demo one too...then maybe sell off some cocker stuff....bushmaster stuff....desert fox stuff.....

Anyway - see everybody around.

[Dayspring]

RT- Reactive Trigger (Valves based on this technology include the Xvalve, Emag valve, RT Pro, Classic RT, Micro Emag & Micro RT, ReTro valve). Note- the Xvalve is an all-aluminum version of the ReTro valve. There is no performance difference. Just a weight difference of 3oz.

Intelliframe- AGD's double trigger frame. (Can be hooked up to warp or loader to spin on every pull.)

Y-grip- AGD's forward angled grip frame. (Can be hooked up to warp or loader to spin on every pull.)

LX- Also known as the Level 10 upgrade. It's an anti-chop bolt system.

Classic- Anything based on a NON-RT valve. These include the Micromag, 68 Classic, Minimag.

ULE- Ultra Light Engineering. AGD's new initiative to make things lighter by using aluminum. These include rails, gripframes (for Emags), bodies.

ULT- Ultra Light Trigger. A new on/off assembly that reduces the pull weight from 3 pounds to 15oz.

Slug body- anything based off the AGD un-milled body. Allows for an aftermarket milled body to be made. i.e.- Karta, Dallara, Chord

[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

Too sell your stuff, try the B/S/T forums at

www.pbnation.com
www.pbreview.com

as well as the B/S/T here on AO.

[urbansix]

wow that was fast! THanks!

Does the RT trigger "push back" ? - the term reactive suggests that. Can you sweet-spot it for rapid-ish fire like on the tippmanns? Just curious...

Can any mag be upgraded to Emag (i.e. the Tac1)

[Webmaster]

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[MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata]

wow that was fast! THanks!

Does the RT trigger "push back" ? - the term reactive suggests that. Can you sweet-spot it for rapid-ish fire like on the tippmanns? Just curious...

Can any mag be upgraded to Emag (i.e. the Tac1)

Yes it pushes back, and all mags can be upgraded to an Emag, however in order to do this you need to find someone selling the bottom half of there E-mag, ie triggerframe and battery

or you could have your mag upgraded into a devilmag, check the dealer forums for more information on that

[SCpoloRicker]

:shooting:


I know. That was kinda lame. Welcome to AO!

I'm sure you'll get all the info you need about mags, and its possible you may get flooded ;)

:cheers:
Ricker

[peewee]

Welcome... Frst off mags are easy to get the hang of. Where you at ? there might be an AO mag owner in your area. Tac 1's are still a little rare. But an RT ULE or seriously upped mag. would give you an idea.

[scrumpy]

RT- Reactive Trigger (Valves based on this technology include the Xvalve, Emag valve, RT Pro, Classic RT, Micro Emag & Micro RT, ReTro valve). Note- the Xvalve is an all-aluminum version of the ReTro valve. There is no performance difference. Just a weight difference of 3oz.

Intelliframe- AGD's double trigger frame. (Can be hooked up to warp or loader to spin on every pull.)

Y-grip- AGD's forward angled grip frame. (Can be hooked up to warp or loader to spin on every pull.)

LX- Also known as the Level 10 upgrade. It's an anti-chop bolt system.

Classic- Anything based on a NON-RT valve. These include the Micromag, 68 Classic, Minimag.

ULE- Ultra Light Engineering. AGD's new initiative to make things lighter by using aluminum. These include rails, gripframes (for Emags), bodies.

ULT- Ultra Light Trigger. A new on/off assembly that reduces the pull weight from 3 pounds to 15oz.

Slug body- anything based off the AGD un-milled body. Allows for an aftermarket milled body to be made. i.e.- Karta, Dallara, Chord

You forgot the smartmag in the classic section...they always forget about the smartvalve.

[cphilip]

Welcome to AO! :shooting:

[Dayspring]

Point well taken.

[cphilip]

You forgot the smartmag in the classic section...they always forget about the smartvalve.

its because it was not so smart... and it was Smart Parts after all....

[scrumpy]

It still qualifies as a classic valve, and I think it was pretty smart, it will run down to 350psi.

[Dayspring]

I always thought the Smart Valve was nothing more than a glorified expansion chamber. Since when did it do that?


It still qualifies as a classic valve, and I think it was pretty smart, it will run down to 350psi.

[scrumpy]

Smartvalve history (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=183531&highlight=smartvalve)

That is vapourus trying to sell his, but if you read through you will pick up history about the valve.
Here's what Tom had to say about it.

Well the Smartmag was cooked up by Smart Parts during the transition from CO2 to compressed air. When you go to compressed air the pressure in all guns has to go up for physics reasons. Anyway this meant that the Mag would run at about 30-50 psi higher than CO2 and it would feel different when you shot it. The Black Box added air chamber so the pressure would be the same as CO2.

The first ones had an extension tube out the side and they tended to leak a lot. We helped out by drilling extra holes in the valve to increase the chamber from the inside. So if you have a smartvalve you run at slightly lower pressure.

AGD

There you go. If a 68 classic runs on 400psi and a smartvalve runs on 350 that's a 12.5% difference which is pretty big.

[SlipknotX556]

Welcome to AO! :dance:

[SteelSoul]

Hey send me a PM about your desert fox
I love ol school ICD markers
Is it a fox classic or a fox 98

[LunchBox89]

this is my first post now hehe i just got my mini mag and had to come to ao

[cphilip]

It still qualifies as a classic valve, and I think it was pretty smart, it will run down to 350psi.

It never did recharge fast enough though. It was a futile attempt to outthink the master Tom Kaye. And it did not work worth a dam. It should be purged from memory and was never an AGD product. So it should be left off the list in my opinion.

[Dayspring]

That's why I left it off the list. :D


It never did recharge fast enough though. It was a futile attempt to outthink the master Tom Kaye. And it did not work worth a dam. It should be purged from memory and was never an AGD product. So it should be left off the list in my opinion.