Compatability?

[Whiteknight457]

My automag has the ugly stock carbon fiber frame and i was gunna get a intelliframe, but i was wondering if the spyder e-frames are compatable with automags. or can you buy something to make the intelliframe electronic?

[LunchBox89]

you have to mod the sear to make it fit its been done though ill find you soem pics of what it looks like
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Lunch__Box89/Spyder20001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Lunch__Box89/Spyder20002.jpg
and video http://kustombiker.com/pb/sypdermag.avi

[Whiteknight457]

what exactly do you have to do to the sear?

[LunchBox89]

Here is a brief description of what was done. I will give you more when I have the time or Daniel will post up when his computer is fixed.

The only Mag part that had to be modified was the sear. A mech mag sear has a trigger rod attached to it. This rod has to be removed since it will not be used. It comes off without any tools.
THen the bottom of the mag sear has to be milled down so that it will work with the spyder frame. once you look at the two, it's pretty easy to see what needs to be done.

There are a couple of mods to the spyder trigger frame as well.

First, you have drill a hole inside the trigger gaurd for the front frame screw. This is were the trigger frame attaches to the mag.

Second, the mag rail has a little post that sticks out and helps hold the mag trigger frame in place. You will need to drill out a hole in the spyder trigger frame for this post to go into.

Third, you will have to dremmel out a channel in the back of the spyder trigger frame for the mag sear to fit into.

Last, you will have to modify the part of the spyder trigger frame that will actually activate the sear. Daniel cut this peice and the sear both at an angle so that they fit together. So, when the spyder trigger frame trigger is pulled, it just slightly pushes against the sear. With a ULT trigger pull on/off valve, it only takes the slightest pressure to fire the mag.

He has not tried this with a regular on/off valve and does recommend using a ult trigger on/off valve because of how little force it takes to activate it.

Once mine is done I will try to get some pics up of the modifications.

Hope this was helpfull.

*****NEW UPDATE*******************

I realized that I left out one important fact in my description. Daniel had to spot weld a small tab onto the automag sear for it to come into contact with the moving part of the spyder trigger frame. Sorry for the omision. It will not work without that tab. Pics comming soon.

[Whiteknight457]

sounds complicated, ill try and find a hyperframe, got links to the hyperframe anyone?

[LunchBox89]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=606895&highlight=%2Bhyper+%2Bframe rt with hyper frame
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=597690&highlight=%2Bhyper+%2Bframe hyper frame with switch and 20 bps board

[GordDesigns]

For Lunchbox ; Question: Why use an electronic frame on an X valve?

Is'nt the RT fast enough? 26 bps with the right tank and reg.

Not knocking the engineering but just looking at the reasoning.

[Dayspring]

Because it still has a mechanical trigger pull. It'll never be as short or as light as an electro.

[Whiteknight457]

i just want an electro frame so i can shoot over 20bps full auto :shooting:

[LunchBox89]

mainly the feel but you gotta think electric frame with a t board can go 36 bps you can get diffrent triggers and make it easyer to walk but its not my mag

[brianlojeck]

For Lunchbox ; Question: Why use an electronic frame on an X valve?

Is'nt the RT fast enough? 26 bps with the right tank and reg.

Not knocking the engineering but just looking at the reasoning.


THE GUN can fire 26bps.

You can not, unless you have an electronic mouse-click trigger.

(and for the record, I HATE electronic mouseclick triggers...)

[LunchBox89]

i can do 18 dont think so on my micro mag coming in i need to get a pull pin and a bolt spring :cry: but i cant order them and i cant find them :cry: