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Bobbyboy
09-11-2004, 09:02 PM
Hey yall im looking to get some opinions aboot paintball pistols please feel free to express any opinion you like even if its about peguins i dont care.

do you fellas like em or hate em or are ya indifferent and why do feel the way you do.
what are good models abd what is good about them. what models should one stray from and why. how do you choses to use your pistol i.e. scenario back-up, scenario primary, Rec back-up ect. And finally whats up with those dancin' Bannanas :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

FragTek
09-11-2004, 09:25 PM
One word brotha: Sydarm!!!! :shooting:

Bobbyboy
09-11-2004, 09:27 PM
Sydarms are kinda pricey arnt they

Mastema
09-11-2004, 09:37 PM
I own both a PT professionnal (http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/800/) and a Sidekick (http://www.paintballstuff.com/index.html).

Both are quite reliable and can get about 25 rounds out of a 12gr.

The Sidekick is quite smaller being single stack, the 12gr goes into the grip.

I use the PT professionnal as a main marker in handgun games only and my
Sidekick as a backup for a few quick shot when I play with my Phantom (pump)

I also like to go and bunker people with them in rec games.

They will NEVER replace my Tac One but they make a nice addition/change of pace to the game.

Bobbyboy
09-11-2004, 10:07 PM
Can you make a guess at the availibility of the pt and sidekick are they commonplace, rare, or next to impossible to find.

BlackWeenie
09-11-2004, 10:20 PM
from what ive heard the PT's are not very good. ive heard good things about the zeus' and pgp's. but if you can afford it, id definately go for a sydarm. i probably would use it in bushball games, it'd be pretty fun. anyways, pistols are cool

Mastema
09-11-2004, 10:21 PM
Both of them seem to be discontinued (or replaced by newer model for the PT)

I would check out the Armotech Zeus G1 or G2 depending on your budget. They have a lot of options.

www.armotech.net ( beware, there are copies out there and they are NOT as well made)

They are reliable and well made. A few of my friends own them and they are really nice and available used or new.

Personnally, I would never buy a PT Extreme. They are well known for having problems.

Of course, the Sydarm would be the perfect choice.(but the price....outch!)

Bobbyboy
09-11-2004, 10:38 PM
Hmm the zues is very nice but does anybody have an opinion on the Delta is it any better than the PTX?

hobbesTZ
09-11-2004, 10:50 PM
Both of them seem to be discontinued (or replaced by newer model for the PT)

I would check out the Armotech Zeus G1 or G2 depending on your budget. They have a lot of options.

www.armotech.net ( beware, there are copies out there and they are NOT as well made)

They are reliable and well made. A few of my friends own them and they are really nice and available used or new.

Personnally, I would never buy a PT Extreme. They are well known for having problems.

Of course, the Sydarm would be the perfect choice.(but the price....outch!)

How can you tell the differance between the real Zues' and the copies?

i_baked_cookies
09-11-2004, 10:52 PM
i used to have a pt extreme. it was the biggest peice of trash ever. max fps was around 210, and it was insanely inaccurate with 4 or 5 kinds of paint- marbs, diablo, etc. had a little kick, it was huge for a pistol, and its weight made it hard to hold it at arms length for too long. its not even worth it in a scenario game. what a peice of crap. my eyes start to burn when i think about the 100 bucks i wasted on it. acid will come out my butt and everything i touch will erupt in flame. :mad: :mad: :cuss: :mad: :mad: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Mastema
09-11-2004, 11:08 PM
There were Zeus made by armotech .COM who HAD to change their name to ARIAKON.

They copied almost everything from the real armotech but with less quality. (IMO)

I agreee about the PT Extreme. It's a piece of *&?&%?%&?%$

BrockSampson
09-11-2004, 11:44 PM
You can get a brand new PGP for well under $100, if you don't mind pumpin'. Solid as a rock!

AGDlover
09-12-2004, 12:45 AM
Micro Phantom.....hmmm i wouldn't mind tryin that :rofl:

BrockSampson
09-12-2004, 12:53 AM
No way dude... Micro Buzzard! ;)

Beowulfs_Ghost
09-12-2004, 01:25 AM
I have 2 :shooting: Core ZX pistols (same thing as the Zeus). I didn't like the CO2 changer on it, so I added CCI quick changers. I also replaced the stock valve springs with Spyder valve springs and guides because the stock springs tended to kink and cause slow leaks.

If you take your time with the shots you can get a little over 20 shots (with the last few dropping off). The faster you shoot, the quicker your efficiency drops off. Accuracy is better then most people expect. It's a stacked tube blow-back, and is about as reliable as such (requires about as much upkeep as a Spyder).

I paid $120 for each Core, which isn't bad considering it's ready to go right out of the box (all you need is paint and 12g's) The Cores are known for shotting hot, and I had to cut 6 loops of the mainspring to get below 300fps. This has alot to do with people's complaints about poor gas efficiency.

As far as the _best_ PB pistol, everyone here will say Sydarm. If you have that much cash to blow on a pistol you might want to look at the Palmer Squall (which everyone else says is the best PB pistol). http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/catalog/semiautos.htm

toymyster
09-12-2004, 01:45 AM
One word brotha: Sydarm!!!! :shooting:


That says it all!!!!

Bobbyboy
09-12-2004, 01:56 AM
Who makes these core pistols. Armotech? Are they like the Zeus G1 or the G2 and whats up with the spring on the Zeus why couldent armotech just have made a shorter spring. Also can any one point out a site where these things are actually sold.

shartley
09-12-2004, 06:40 AM
I like my PPS Stroker in pistol mode. I have it set up so I can use a 10 round spring feed or a hopper, and either run a remote with CA or 12Grams.

I normally run it with a motorized hopper and remote simply for the reason that I don’t have to worry about reloading or changing 12 grams. But the use of the marker is the same as if I was using the smaller air/ammo setups.

http://www.gbsu-usa.net/shartleycustoms/forum/pbd5.jpg

But the advantage is that I can turn it back into a shoulder fired marker at will.

I also like the weight of this marker… good and hefty. It makes for very stable shooting even in pistol mode.

Tyril
09-12-2004, 11:38 AM
I asked that question not too long ago.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=forum&board=ogog&op=display&num=9336

Read and be informed =)

-mike

vonort
09-12-2004, 11:45 AM
PPS squall if you want semi.
PPS PUG with a 10 rd spring load if you want a pump.

Both excellent pistols.

personman
09-12-2004, 11:53 AM
Sydarms really arent all that great if you want a pistol. They dont get many shots off a 12 gram, they are pricy, they just arent worth it.
I've heard good things about sidekicks but I dont know if they are made anymore. You could always go with a good ol' pgp. PT Enforcers suck major arse, I used to own one.. but maybe the extremes are better.

Bobbyboy
09-12-2004, 01:31 PM
I asked that question not too long ago.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=forum&board=ogog&op=display&num=9336

Read and be informed =)

-mike

Wow thanks that was really helpful

LudavicoSoldier
09-12-2004, 01:45 PM
http://idisk.mac.com/dgreening/Public/spring2.jpg

Beowulfs_Ghost
09-12-2004, 11:28 PM
The Core stuff is sold at;

http://www.xtremez.com/paintball/default.asp

They don't actualy make it, it's just their brand. They are probably made at the same factory in Taiwan that makes the Zeus (they both have the same logo on the grips).

As for the spring? I don't know why they are like that, but at least the fix is easy. Just start cut loops off the spring till you get it where you want it.

Bob_da_Splatman
09-12-2004, 11:38 PM
acid will come out my butt and everything i touch will erupt in flame.

I would def. have a doctor look at that dude...

as for the pistol i would say Squall but you were complaining of price so that might not be the best for a but its the best out there!!!!... Whooo GO Palmers... :headbang:

azza
09-12-2004, 11:53 PM
Best thing I could personaly recommend would be to stay away from all the pistols except for the zues and possibly the 32* PT Extreme JR and Sydarm.

Failing that, get yourself a micro mag, a BE samurai barrel (suprisingly good for its size), a vert adapter (if u dont already have one), a 50 round hopper and a 4oz tank.

Something like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/paintballin_azza/my%20gear/thepistolmag.jpg

Cheers
Azza