What would you do?

[blackmag]

I have been looking for a great nitro tank for my gun and i dont know which to buy? Which tank would u buy for a ReTromag?

[MicromagRT2000]

actually,you can get an 88ci 4500psi PMI fiberwrapped tank from PBGEAR.net for $210.It is the same length as the 68,just wider.

[Russ]

None, I would go with an adjustable output tank, so I could tweak the reactivness of the trigger.

[ZeroXtreme]

If these are the choices, I would go with the CenterFlag, because I have read on alot of forums and reviews that it has one of THE highest recharge rates in it's class.

[MAGgot Man]

a 68 or 88 ci 4.5K but only if it had an adjustable output.

[cphilip]

None of the above. A 68/3000 Flatline for a bout $299 is the way to go. Comes with the drop, adjustable and real nice on/off.

[jah871]

dont get the centerflag. i had a 68/45 preset and it sucked it leaked and spiked all the time. 3 poeple i know had the same ones and they all were like this. get an adjustable nitroduck tank

[Chris]

Get an adjustable. Flatline or nitroduck have been great for me. The maxflow is another great system you may want to look into. Another is Air America systems. The raptors come pretty cheap, and work nicely. Whatever you get, make sure it is adjustable though.

-Chris

[blackmag]

What about getting a 47ci adjustable tank? Like the flatline or ACI

[ZeroXtreme]

Don't get the ACI, I would definitely go with the Flatline. :)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

get a luxfer tank, those are niiiiicccceeee

[ZeroXtreme]

The luxfer tank is also lighter and smaller than the metal alloy one. Unfortunately, they are more expensive. However, they come in 68ci which is definitely better than the 47ci since you get more shots per load.

I would advise to save up a bit more and get the Flatline 68ci/3000psi Luxfer/Carbon Fiber tank. :)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

do they have them flatlines in luxfer?

[ZeroXtreme]

Yup, they have Luxfer Flatline systems, check it out at this link:

http://www.countypaintball.com/product_description.asp?item=1450

However, they are only available in 68ci, you can have them replaced with larger capacity tanks though. I know that DarkPhoenix had his bottle replaced to an 88ci luxfer bottle. :)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

how do u kno thats a luxfer tank

[MagNumPI]

I have a PE 88ci 3000 and it has not failed me. It is the lengh of a 68 but a little wider. Nice tank.. no complaints.

[ZeroXtreme]

You can tell the difference between the metal and the luxfer/carbon fiber tanks even on pictures. I already eMailed Mike of CountyPaintball, and he said it is not the metal version. :)

[blackmag]

ok guys you have been lots of help and im really close to making my choice

what do U think about this plan:
get a 47ci flatline from acepaintball.com for 139.99 bc my field fill n2 for 3 bucks

[ZeroXtreme]

Good choice, you have to remember though that you get less shots per fill on a 47ci tank than you would on a 68ci or 88ci. Then again, you can have it upgraded to a luxfer bottle with a higher fill capacity when you have the extra money. :)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

Originally posted by ZeroXtreme
You can tell the difference between the metal and the luxfer/carbon fiber tanks even on pictures. I already eMailed Mike of CountyPaintball, and he said it is not the metal version. :)

buddy, theres a difference between carbon fiber and luxfer, i kno its not steel, but there is a diff.

[ZeroXtreme]

DYE-BaLLeR,

I'm sorry for the mix-up, what I really meant to say was to get the SCI bottles, these are the carbon fiber ones. The luxfer is not steel, but sort of an aluminum alloy which makes it lighter than steel, but is still larger in size for the same capacity. The SCI bottles are still the better ones because they are lighter and smaller than the luxfer ones.


blackmag,

My advise would be to get the SCI bottle version of the Flatline, yes there is a big difference in price, but it is well worth it. If you are trying to save $$$, then just get the luxfer bottle version. If in the future you find it heavy or the 47ci fill capacity is not enough, you can always have the bottle replaced with a 68ci or 88ci SCI bottle. This might end up costing you more in the long run though. So if it was up to me, I would just wait a little longer and save up a bit more so I can just go straight to the SCI bottle version of the Flatline.

[DYE-BaLLeR]

i dont think any of u kno this but carbon fiber is lighter then steel and luxfer is lighter then carbon fiber

[blackmag]

how much is the 68ci lux bottle

[Russ]

Dudes,

Luxfer is a manufacturer of pressure vessels. Again, Luxfer is the brand name of a company that makes the tanks. Luxfer makes carbon fiber wrapped aluminum bottles, fiberglass wrapped aluminum bottles, just plain 'ol aluminum bottles. They also make a whole slew of other vessels, like SCUBA tanks, etc. etc. They sell their tanks to various manufactureres of regulators. For instance, I have a Pure Energy 88/3000 HPA preset system. The bottle (tank) is made by Luxfer. www.Luxfercylinders.com

I also have a 68/3000 AGD Flatline and an 88/4500 MacDev Conquest adjustable air systems. Both the bottles on those systems are made by Carleton (NOT a Luxfer bottle on the Flatline!), another manufacturer of pressure vessels. http://www.carltech.com/

Like I said, the tanks, which are aluminum, are then wrapped with carbon-fiber, then epoxied. This makes them very strong, lightweight, and resilient.

I hope this clears up a few things with you guys. :)

[DYE-BaLLeR]

u say it in many words, i say it in few, luxfer is lighteer then carbon fiber

[Russ]

You can lead a horse to water...

DYE-BaLLeR,

Open your mind, then read my post carefully. Let it sink in. Then you will understand...well, maybe not :rolleyes:

[ZeroXtreme]

Thanks for clearing it up! I sure appreciate it... :D

[blackmag]

can u buy a bigger tank for the flatline system like 68ci 3000 psi?

[ZeroXtreme]

Yes you can, check this link out,

http://www.countypaintball.com/prod...n.asp?item=1450

I've done alot of business with this guy, and he sure is a stand up type of guy, very dependable. He also has very competitive prices. Of course feel free to look around for other places to buy. :)

[hotty9669]

If your Field will do 4500 refills get a 4500 tank the extra money is worth the 30% fewer lines you will have to stand in to get air.

[DYE-BaLLeR]

russ, i read it, luxfer makes tanks and sells it to people like pure energy, ok , i get it, but those luxfer tanks are lighter then the carbon fiber material.

[Russ]

DYE-BaLLeR,

No, you don't get it. Luxfer MAKES carbon fiber wrapped, aluminum bottles :rolleyes: Again, in case your slow, the Luxfer bottles ARE MADE OF CARBON FIBER! They are actually little heavier than the Carleton bottles of the same pressure and volume. Go to the links and compare the specs if you don't believe me. I'm not trying to flame, just trying to set the record straight. Knowledge is power. :)

blackmag,

I, and many others at AO have 68/3000 carbon fiber wrapped, AGD Flatline air systems. That is the most common configuration for the Flatline systems. (take a look at the post, "Miscues Toy", that's a 68/3000 Flatline) I paid $250 for mine from www.888paintball.com when I purchased a gun at the same time. A very good lightweight, adjustable output air system. I look forward to the release AGD's 4500psi systems. To me, 68 cu/in ststems are the perfect size.

[blackmag]

that link isnt working..but i have order from county paintball..what are u tryin to show me?

[ZeroXtreme]

The link works fine when I click it, anyway it was a direct link to the Flatline Nitro System (68ci/3000psi) Level 2 at CountyPaintball.

Anyway I attached the image to this post. :)

[blackmag]

ok i see. its a great system but i dont have enought money for it. I was tryin to buy the 47ci flatline system then later on buy a 68ci tank from somewhere but i dont if i can do that for sure?

[ZeroXtreme]

Contact DarkPhoenix, he is a member on this forum, he had his bottle replaced with an 88ci carbon fiber tank. He should be able to help you on the exact details on how to go about doing the upgrade. :D

[DarkPhoenix]

Hey, guys! Glad to be back, even for a couple of days. Yes, I was able to change out my 47cu in bottle for an 88cu in 4500psi bottle. I bought the new bottle at my local paintball store, I know a couple of stores out there have them, and had them replace it. If you do not feel comfortable with your local store mounting your reg for you, just send it in to AGD and they will do it for you.

[DYE-BaLLeR]

u kill some towel heads?

[ZeroXtreme]

Good to see you're fine dude! Thanks for the info on the tank replacement.
I hope blackmag has a better idea now. :)

[blackmag]

how much was the 88ci tank?

[blackmag]

hey what have you guys heard about the new 4500 68ci crossfire tank? Have u seen the video about the new regulator?

Look at this
http://www.crossfireinc.com/news_videomain.asp

$170 at paintballgear

Looks like a great tank!!

[blackmag]

does anyone have this tank?

[ZeroXtreme]

I had the Crossfire 68ci/3000psi Preset Fiber Wrapped tank, it was good. Didn't give me any shootdowns or inconsistencies. I'm not too sure about the 4500psi versions though, although I hear they are just as good. :)

[MINIMAGMAN]

hey guys whats so bad about a preset cheap steel tank 68cu 3000 psi at 125 bux?

[DYE-BaLLeR]

thats what im using, sigh. their just heavyier really, i dont suggest starting with one, for like 50more bucks you can get fiber, id do that.

[Slapp]

Flatlines are tough to beat and I'd say go with the 68 for sure especially if you play at a field where you have to pay per fill (assuming that the fill cost is the same per bottle for a 47 or 68). With the 68 you will spend more time on the field and less time at the fill station and there is little difference in weight. Flatlines come with their own drop forwards and make a nice light setup. With any of the other tanks you mention, you need to add the cost of a drop forward and a bottle adapter and you still don't have an adjustable tank to modify the feel/performance of your retro valve. Plus you get the customer support of AGD with a flatline.