Another hurricane for Florida

[SlipknotX556]

Thats right, another hurricane. I just got all my shutters off, a few days ago, now I have to put them back up. Well atleast I wont have school for another 2 weeks. lol

[Fred]

I havn't been watching the news much, where is this one gonna hit?

[cphilip]

South east coast of Florida its looking like now.... This one has been milling around out there for weeks now. Can't make up its mind. Now it appears to have done so. This is Jeanne

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT11/refresh/AL1104W5+GIF/231458W5.gif

Ivan became a Tropical storm again after going through Florida, Alabama and Georgia and then us in SC/NC... up to the NE and then going back down to Florida and across and then into the Gulf and reforming.... it is going to Louisiana and Texas it seems.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/231458W5.gif

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Crazy weather patterns...

Good luck and stay safe. jeanne is only a Cat. 2, right? Or is it getting stronger?

[cphilip]

Crazy weather patterns...

Good luck and stay safe. jeanne is only a Cat. 2, right? Or is it getting stronger?


Correct. Expectations are strengthen a bit then deintensify before landfall. But you know how that goes. All depends...

[flyinasian016]

How's Ivan? I heard that may be reforming in the Gulf of Mexico and may hit Florida again because it went in one big loop and is reforming, maybe?

[cphilip]

How's Ivan? I heard that may be reforming in the Gulf of Mexico and may hit Florida again because it went in one big loop and is reforming, maybe?

read.... look up....

[Warewolf50]

I thought i heard on the news the other day when a huricane drops down to a tropical storm they rename it, but if there is a tropical storm ivan, i guess i heard wrong.

[cphilip]

I thought i heard on the news the other day when a huricane drops down to a tropical storm they rename it, but if there is a tropical storm ivan, i guess i heard wrong

There is some controversy about that. Ivan actually dropped to not even a depression. Thats even below a Tropical Storm. It was nothing but a tropical disturbance for while. Moved down the east coast and over Florida again. But for some reason they considered it still tropical and not extratropical. Even though the National Hurricane center quit tracking and issuing reports on it for four or five days they have tracked its remnants and did not ever declare it "extratropical". So they are reusing the name for its reformed remnants. Seems thats enough as it never went Extratropical. And seems until it does they keep the name. News to me...

Another Tidbit is unless a tropical storm makes landfall as a major hurricane the name gets back into the name pool and is reused. If it does make landfall as a major cane its retired.

[cphilip]

Some Hurricane trivia from the NHC

"Atlantic Storms 1996-2001"




The National Hurricane Center (NHC) near Miami, Florida, keeps a constant watch on oceanic storm-breeding areas for tropical disturbances which may herald the formation of a hurricane. If a disturbance intensifies into a tropical storm with rotatory circulation and wind speeds about 39 miles per hour, NHC will give the storm a name from one of the six lists below. A separate set is used each year beginning with the first name in the set. Once a set of names has been used for a season, that list will not be used again for another six years. The 1996 set, for example, will be used again to name storms in the year 2002. The letters Q, U, X, Y, and Z are not included because of the scarcity of names beginning with those letters. When a major storm makes landfall and is associated with grave economic impact, the name is retired.

The name lists have an international flavor because hurricanes affect many nations and are tracked by the public and weather services of countries other than the United States. Names for these lists are selected from library sources and agreed upon by nations involved during international meetings of the World Meteorological Organization.


Reason to name hurricanes



U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE , NOAA, National Weather Service



Experience shows that the use of short, distintive given names in written as well as spoken communications is quicker and less subject to error than the older more cumbersome latitude-longitute identification methods. These advantages are specially important in exchanging detailed storm information between hundres widely scattered stations, coastal bases, and ships at sea.

The use of easily remembered names greatly reduces confusion when two or more tropical storms occur at the same time. For example, one hurricane can be moving slowly westward in the Gulf of Mexico , while at exactly the same time anothe hurricane can be moving rapidly Northward along the Atlantic coast. In the past, confusion and false rumors have arisen when storm advisories broadcast from radio statio were mistaken for warning concerning an entirely different storm located hundreds of miles away.

History of Hurricane Names



For several hundred years many hurricanes in the West Indies were named after the particular saint's day on which the hurricane occurred. Ivan R. Tannehill describes in his book "Hurricanes" the major tropical storms of recorded history and mentions many hurricanes named after saints. For example, there was "Hurricane Santa Ana" which struck Puerto Rico with exceptional violence on July 26, 1825, and "San Felipe" (the first) and "San Felipe" (the second) which hit Puerto Rico on September 13 in both 1876 and 1928.

Tannehill also tells of Clement Wragge, an Australian meteorologist who began giving women's names to tropical storms before the end of the l9th century.

An early example of the use of a woman's name for a storm was in the novel "Storm" by George R . Stewart, published by Random House in 1941, and since filmed by Walt Disney. During World War II this practice became widespread in weather map discussions among forecasters, especially Air Force and Navy meteorologists who plotted the movements of storms over the wide expanses of the Pacific Ocean.



In 1953, the United States abandoned as confusing a two-year old plan to name storms by a phonetic alphabet (Able, Baker, Charlie) when a new, international phonetic alphabet was introduced. That year, this Nation's weather services began using female names for storms.



The practice of naming hurricanes solely after women came to an end in 1978 when men's and women's names were included in the Eastern North Pacific storm lists. In 1979, male and female names were included in lists for the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico.



Atlantic Storms 1996-2001


The Retirement of Hurricane Names



Hurricanes that have a severe impact on lives or the economy are remembered generations after the devastation they caused, and some go into weather history. The National Hurricane Center near Miami, Florida, monitors tropical disturbances in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific Oceans which could become a hurricane.

Whenever a hurricane has had a major impact, any country affected by the storm can request that the name of the hurricane be "retired" by agreement of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). Retiring a name actually means that it cannot be reused for at least 10 years, to facilitate historic references, legal actions, insurance claim activities, etc. and avoid public confusion with another storm of the same name. If that happens, a like gender name is selected in English, Spanish or French for Atlantic Storms.


There is an exception to the retirement rule, however. Before 1979, when the first permanent six-year storm name list began, some storm names were simply not used anymore. For example, in 1966, "Fern" was substituted for "Frieda," and no reason was cited.


Below is a list of Atlantic Ocean retired names, the years the hurricanes occurred, and the areas they affected. There are, however, a great number of destructive storms not included on this list because they occurred before the hurricane naming convention was established in 1950.


Atlantic Storms Retired Into Hurricane History


Agnes (1972§*): Florida, Northeast U.S.
Alicia (1983*): North Texas
Allen (1980*): Antilles, Mexico, South Texas
Andrew (1992*): Bahamas, South Florida, Louisiana
Anita (1977): Mexico
Audrey (1957§*): Louisiana, North Texas
Betsy (1965§*): Bahamas, Southeast Florida, Southeast Louisiana
Beulah (1967*): Antilles, Mexico, South Texas
Bob (1991*): North Carolina & Northeast U.S.
Camille (1969§*): Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama
Carla (1961§*): Texas
Carmen (1974): Mexico, Central Louisiana
Carol (1954§*): Northeast U.S.
Cesar (1996): Honduras
Celia (1970*): South Texas
Cleo (1964*): Lesser Antilles, Haiti, Cuba, Southeast Florida
Connie (1955§): North Carolina
David (1979): Lesser Antilles, Hispañola, Florida and Eastern U.S.
Diana (1990): Mexico
Diane (1955§*): Mid-Atlantic U.S. & Northeast U.S.
Donna (1960§*): Bahamas, Florida and Eastern U.S.
Dora (1964*): Northeast Florida
Edna (1968)
Elena (1985*): Mississippi, Alabama, Western Florida
Eloise (1975*): Antilles, Northwest Florida, Alabama
Fifi (1974): Yucatan Peninsula, Louisiana
Flora (1963): Haiti, Cuba
Floyd (1999): North Carolina, eastern seaboard
Fran (1996): North Carolina
Frederic (1979*): Alabama and Mississippi
Gilbert (1988): Lesser Antilles, Jamaica, Yucatan Peninsula, Mexico
Gloria (1985*): North Carolina, Northeast U.S.
Hattie (1961): Belize, Guatemala
Hazel (1954§*): Antilles, North and South Carolina
Hilda (1964§*): Louisiana
Hortense (1996)
Hugo (1989*): Antilles, South Carolina
Inez (1966): Lesser Antilles, Hispanola, Cuba, Florida Keys, Mexico
Ione (1955*): North Carolina
Janet (1955): Lesser Antilles, Belize, Mexico
Joan (1988): Curacao, Venezuela, Colombia, Nicaragua (Crossed into the Pacific and became Miriam)
Klaus (1990): Martinique
Lenny (1999): Antilles
Luis (1995)
Marilyn (1995): Bermuda
Mitch (1998): Central America, Nicaragua, Honduras
Opal (1995): Florida Panhandle
Roxanne (1995): Yucatan Peninsula


KEY
§Within the list of top 37 deadliest U.S. hurricanes
* Within the list of the top 31 costliest U.S. hurricanes (in 1990 dollars)
(Measurements only available through 1992 for storms that affected the U.S.)


NOTES:
"Carol" was used again to denote a hurricane in the Mid-Atlantic Ocean in 1965. However, because the name does not appear after that time, it is assumed that the name was retired retrospectively for the damages caused by the 1954 storm of the same name.


The (2001) names "Allison", "Iris', and "Michelle" will be proposed for retirement when the World Meteorological Organization's Regional Association-IV meets in the Spring, 2002.