X-Valved Mags in Tourneys

[Lancer424]

I recently got into tourney ball with my college team, and I have been using a Race Framed Cocker so far. I really do not like it, and would like to get a mag again. I had a mag a little while ago, but I sold it to pay for some school things.

Basically, all I want to know is can X-valved mags keep up on the tourney scene? I cannot afford to buy a X-mag, but possibly an emag.....but for some reason I really just want a mechanical X-valved mag.

I dont expect these things to put out paint as fast as an angel, but how fast can they fire tournement legal ? I read stuff on Z-man's site, and watched a few of his videos about rapid fire, and I know that I cant use it in a tourney, but what can I do in a tourney that wont keep my gun lagging behind all the other ones?

I was thinking only having an blade intelli and X-valve with a ULT on it, considering the fact that the hair trigger has not been out for the last year or so, and will prolly not be out before Christmas.

I want to know is the X-valve with a Intelli and a ULT walkable, or rideable, and is it tourney legal for it to be that way....?


Thanks a lot in advance.

-Jake



**I know I already posted this in the Tech Forum, but I really dont think its a tech question at all.....**

[steveo356]

you can fan it but walkin the meck mag is an art form and i cannot do it very fast

[imstoiched!]

Fanning=less accurate

If you really want a 'mag , then i suggest you try to find a used E-mag. The electronic trigger will help you out in BPS. My brother's Emag is just as fast or faster as my Viking.

[Creative Mayhem]

Let me answer your question with a recent incident. I was playing at IAO this year, and for some reason, my xmag battery wasn't up to snuff or something, and I had to play in mech mode all day. Let me tell you, I really had no problem laning(albeit slower than electro) off the break, but I also had no problem making a significant number of eliminations, all in mech mode. So bascially I played a tourney with a $1500 mech mag. Hope this helps.

[Joni]

I have played some tourneys with my mech mag, and sure, it hangs in there, but sometimes you just wish you had those extra bps.

[Chronobreak]

yes yes yes yes, and you can go wrong with a mech mag and for enarly the price or bit more of a good x-valved mag you can get a used or maybe new e-mag so its up to you.

[FlawleZ]

With enough input pressure, a mech mag can hang well with electros. I have a Classic RT and I don't have any problem doing what I need to do. Once you learn to pull the trigger fast with a harder pull, you'll be capable of 12-14 BPS on an X Valved Mag.

As far as "walking" one, it's VERY hard to do so and you're probably better off just practicing pulling really fast with your middle finger.

Good luck!

[Wc Keep]

, but I also had no problem making a significant number of eliminations, all in mech mode. So bascially .

by significant he means two. and they were his teammates.

[Lancer424]

I have a Classic RT and I don't have any problem doing what I need to do. Once you learn to pull the trigger fast with a harder pull, you'll be capable of 12-14 BPS on an X Valved Mag.



Is this cycle rate tourney legal though? Or is it a mad debounce (pretty much hold my finger in one spot and the gun will go full auto)?

[mobius]

Dunno, but I've also heard of guys having issues with using E-Mags in tourneys, b/c the refs claim that the hybrid mode isn't tourney legal.

[RTDynaflow]

Eh, in order to reach some fast speeds, you will need the bounce. What z man does is cool, but so far from legal.... I would say, buy a viking... but since thats not an option, e-mags are great. Only thing they can be hard on is efficiency. =/

[Lancer424]

Well, if I dont have Z-mans settings (which are not even close to legal, but amazingly fun Im sure :headbang: ), what rate of fire could I really get up to when the bounce is set legally ?

[Chronobreak]

most people probly 13-15

i hit 15-17 max on a legal setup and with 1k psi in the gun i got 22 bps on classic rt

[B.A.M.]

Walking with a mech mag isnt fun. I usually short stroke and my gun recock :cry:

[OmniM]

Let me answer your question with a recent incident. I was playing at IAO this year, and for some reason, my xmag battery wasn't up to snuff or something, and I had to play in mech mode all day. Let me tell you, I really had no problem laning(albeit slower than electro) off the break, but I also had no problem making a significant number of eliminations, all in mech mode. So bascially I played a tourney with a $1500 mech mag. Hope this helps.

The beauty of having a hybrid marker :D .. better mechanical than no marker at all...

[lbonettosd]

Well first let me tell you my setup:
Brand New Tac1
ULT, 4 ULTshims + 1 LX shim
4.5K flatline @ 950psi inlet

Now I was just goofing around and am able to walk the trigger, albeit not for any length of time. But I'm sure with a little practice it can be done. Now If I put the inlet up to 1k or higher it just sweetspots too easy. Point is with the right tuning you'll still have an extremely fast mech gun.