smallest nitro tank

[Chronobreak]

ok i know 45/45 are really small but theyr still kinda big ex if i was to put one on a phantom. :ninja: i know i could always use liek 3.5 or 4.0 co2 thats an otion but i would rather have a similar sized nitro tank is possible.

i recall seeing a 27/3k a LONG time ago something like that maybe even 4500 psi would be like a wet dream. if anyone can point me in the right direction ide appreciate it.

yes i tried searches and i kept gettting random scuba and non p-ball related items :(

[SlartyBartFast]

http://www.carltech.com/new-composite/PTDproduct_list.pdf

Smallest they make is 45/4500psi

or for the ultimate tank for spray and pray players a 4770ci/6600psi tank. :rofl:

[HoppysMag]

smalles nitro tank? 13 cu.

[TheTramp]

13ci/3000psi This is the smallest I believe.

Not cheap though:

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7239&tabID=137&categoryID=189&pos=3



http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/images/23080.jpg

[Chronobreak]

trying to factor in weight,size,price,shots

it appears the 45/45 is the best way to go unles i get a 3.5 co2 or soemthing.

i really cant believe that NO ONE makes a smaller than 45/45 fiber tank :rolleyes:

well if anyone else finds anything worthwhile pelase lmk otherwise thanks guys i think il go with co2 or just maybe even keep my 70.45 for the phantom :cool:

[MonsterMag]

the most expensive hopper :D

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/23073L.jpg


Holds 180 rounds of projectiles

Made for use with the PepperBall™ SA200

Easy open and close plastic snap lid

Hopper keeps projectiles flowing into the breech

Projectiles can be fired as quickly as the shooter can pull the trigger

12V automatic and requires two 9V batteries (not included)

USA

Black


Price $194.99

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7232&tabID=137&categoryID=188&pos=52

[HoppysMag]

the 13's can be gotten from ATS ( people who make AT85 & AT10) for 126

[SlartyBartFast]

i really cant believe that NO ONE makes a smaller than 45/45 fiber tank :rolleyes:

http://www.scicomposites.com/paintball_cylinders.html
and
http://www.luxfercylinders.com/products/paintball/specifications/us_imperial.shtml
Also list 45/4500psi as the smallest.

But a little looking around:
http://www.luxfercylinders.com/products/scuba/specifications/europe.shtml
Shows a 0.35l 300 bar tank. That’s 21ci/4351psi. That what your looking for? The thing seems tiny: 60x250mm or 2.36x9.84 inch. :wow:
Just need a regulator that will fit on it. Says the threads are M18x1.5 ISO.

[TheTramp]

i really cant believe that NO ONE makes a smaller than 45/45 fiber tank :rolleyes:


There's no point. Fiber wraped tanks are Al with wrapping. That 13ci is the same thing it's just so small that it doesn't need the aditional pressure protection of wrap. If you wanted a 13cu fiber wraped tank it would be one of these with fiber wrap on it.

I'd bet that the 13ci tank weighs pretty close to a 3.5oz CO2 tank.

[SlartyBartFast]

There's no point. Fiber wraped tanks are Al with wrapping. That 13ci is the same thing it's just so small that it doesn't need the aditional pressure protection of wrap. If you wanted a 13cu fiber wraped tank it would be one of these with fiber wrap on it.

That 13ci tank is a steel tank, the reason it isn't fiber wrapped is because it's a steel tank and the tank is strong enough for the pressure rating. A fiberwrapped 13ci would NOT be one of those wrapped in fiber. Doing so would be completely pointless. It would be a thin wall Al tank wrapped in fiber. It would undoubtably be smaller and a lot lighter.


I'd bet that the 13ci tank weighs pretty close to a 3.5oz CO2 tank.

Website says it weighs 4.6lb. :eek:
That's a lot more than a 3.5oz CO2 tank. Anybody know the measurements of that tank? Compare it to the mini-SCUBA rated tank I found at Luxfer. That tank weighs a little over 2lb and has twice the capacity. (although you'd need to add the weight of a regulator)

[Burphel]

Actually, I've had a few 13ci tanks. They're made of aluminum, not steel. Weight-wise, about the same as a 7oz tank and just a tich shorter. And since it's under 2" it never needs hydro. Figure about 300 shots on your Phantom.

The only real downside is getting fills. It fills exactly the same way as any other nitro tank, but be prepared to educate the guy filling it. You'll get a lot of "the CO2 line's over there." Also be aware that unless you get a *very* slow fill, you'll lose about 500 psi from the tank cooling within about 5 minutes. Same thing happens with a flash fill in other bottles, but with the small volume, you get a bigger psi drop.

I've seen them sold for $90. Not exactly cheap, but for a dedicated pumper, it's an awesome little toy. 22oz tanks are also made. Much the same, but about twice as long. They look like the old 12oz thermo-valve CO2 tanks.

[shortkidsrus]

I would honestly consider using a 3.5oz tank on a Phantom. They are $20 off Archerec and Phantoms run great on CO2. I get around 400-450 shots off my 4oz. Are you running a vertical set up or back bottle?

Edit: Not to highjack your thread but...
Emagballa- Is that US Calvary site a joke? Everything is just paintball stuff adapted for riot control...Speedpods, Semi Auto Rifle (Tippy Pro Carbine). Just makes me laugh.... :p

[Chronobreak]

prob vert but if i go backbottle or toher i might anti-siphon and at this point tis looking like co2..just wandering if nitro would help consitency or if the diff would be negligiable.

when i go i go all out if its a tad more accurate and more consitent then thats all the better ;)

[Burphel]

To be honest, unless you're playing outdoor in really cold air, you'll be better off with a 3.5 or 4oz. Smaller, lighter, more shots, and you won't notice much of a consistancy difference under normal conditions. The only real catch is if you run bottomline and a stock class feed at the same time. Tipping down between shots pretty well guarentees a nice shot of liquid in your line. Personally, I love the feel of mine in the vert adapter without a shoulder stock for SC play. If you're using a hopper, you may want a larger tank on the bottomline just to balance the gun out as the Phantom feels kinda funny with 200rds up top.

If you haven't already, check out the following websites:

Phantom Owner's Group Phorum (http://pub15.ezboard.com/bphantomphorum75007)
Pump Player's Internet Group (http://www.pumpplayers.org)
StockClassPaintball.com (http://www.stockclasspaintball.com)

[B.A.M.]

the most expensive hopper :D

http://www.uscav.com/prodinfo/enlarged/23073L.jpg


Holds 180 rounds of projectiles

Made for use with the PepperBall™ SA200

Easy open and close plastic snap lid

Hopper keeps projectiles flowing into the breech

Projectiles can be fired as quickly as the shooter can pull the trigger

12V automatic and requires two 9V batteries (not included)

USA

Black



Price $194.99

http://www.uscav.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=7232&tabID=137&categoryID=188&pos=52
I thought that was a joke when i read that but it really cost 194.99 :wow: :wow: :wow:

[gc82000]

Where do the batteries go?
I dont see a place for the two 9v that say are required.

[TheTramp]

That 13ci tank is a steel tank, the reason it isn't fiber wrapped is because it's a steel tank and the tank is strong enough for the pressure rating. A fiberwrapped 13ci would NOT be one of those wrapped in fiber. Doing so would be completely pointless. It would be a thin wall Al tank wrapped in fiber. It would undoubtably be smaller and a lot lighter.

"Actually, I've had a few 13ci tanks. They're made of aluminum, not steel."
-Burphel

That's two of us. Sort of like the 47ci/3000psi AL tank as apposed to the 68ci/3000psi steel one.



Website says it weighs 4.6lb. :eek:
That's a lot more than a 3.5oz CO2 tank. Anybody know the measurements of that tank? Compare it to the mini-SCUBA rated tank I found at Luxfer. That tank weighs a little over 2lb and has twice the capacity. (although you'd need to add the weight of a regulator)

"Weight-wise, about the same as a 7oz tank and just a tich shorter. And since it's under 2" it never needs hydro."
-Burphel

More than I said but still.....

You have to understand that the site giving the weight is also charging well over $100 for a 12V or 9V Revy and showing a pic of a VL200.

They also WAY over estimate the weight of their items so they can charge crazy shipping.