New Air America products!

[Shane-O-Mac]

Introduced at World Cup.

First off:
new screw-in tanks, low and high pressure, rebuildable, and dust finished. Very light and still has the good old AA lifetime warranty.

2nd: push button fill stations. comes in 3 flavors, unregulated, 3000psi and 4500psi versions. can be serviced and rebuilt in a few minutes, while still aired up. check the picture of the shaft and knob, how easy is that? it just has a collar to unscrew, and Viola! it slides out to clean, lube or replace o-rings.

3rd: XLT Co2 valve. a new design (released at IAO) that keeps the tank from leaving the valve if it starts coming apart. the chanels on the valve will fully dump ALL the co2 in the tank before it can become a projectile, and are large enough to NOT get plugged up with any thread lockers. Also has a longer tang to make it stay on the valve longer. Tested with a 20oz tank filled to 24oz, (yes it was overfilled on purpose) and the tank fully vented the co2, before the bottle could unscrew far enough, to become a projectile.

4th Co2 tanks with XLT valve installed: most sizes available.

Call Air America for availability and pricing. everything should be available this week. Tell them you heard about it on AO!

Shane-O

[Halliday]

That is a great idea on the co2 tank valve :clap:

[CRySyS]

Anymore information about the screw-in regs? Are they user serviceable and easy to take apart or locktighted together?

Wait, the fill nipples look slightly familiar, does AA make WGP tanks?

[Skoad]

very cool stuff.

[wyn1370]

Anymore information about the screw-in regs? Are they user serviceable and easy to take apart or locktighted together?
good question, with new airline regulations, are the regs easily taken off for travel?

[PBX Ronin 23]

That explains it! Looks like Dan Colby lost some major poundage and now I understand why.............lol.

Good to see some new stuff from AA. Congrats Dan and the Boyz.

[Empyreal Rogue]

That is a great idea on the co2 tank valve :clap:

Very good idea. VERY good. I'm glad some company decided to make CO2 tanks safer, and it doesn't surprise me AA is doing it.

[Dayspring]

Smart parts has one out as well, looks ALOT longer than that one, although I think it's just how the picture was taken. (WARPIG)

[Potatoboy]

good question, with new airline regulations, are the regs easily taken off for travel?

According to Shane and Ted of AA at World Cup

All the new AA regs will feature a bleed channel like the new CO2 valves instead of a pluggable hole.

They will not be locked in place, but will be tourqued to specification for simple removal per TSA regulations.

Also, the new screw ins are user servicable and rebuildable.

[Skoad]

why must we call for prices :(

[abarnhar]

why must we call for prices :(
If he posts prices here, it goes to the dealer forum. Plus, you should call the AA folks. They're such nice people.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Thanks tater, for the help.

Yes it is be user servicable, but with a lifetime warranty, why do it your self? the reg itself will be able to come apart to clean and replace parts if needed, but it has holes for a Spanner wrench to unscrew the top, so it may be hard for someone to service it without the proper tools, or training.

Dayspring, if you look closely at the SP co2 valve, it is about the same length, but, it has a saddle cut to bleed off co2. Now the real problem is this, the threads stop at the saddle cut, then start again farther down. so what can happen is that IF the tank comes unscrewed and starts venting, it can jam the bottom threads right up to the inside neck of the tank and mess up the threads on the valve or the tank. so if something happens like that, you will have to buy a new tankand/or valve. AND if you are just removing it to change it out or such, you can easily booger up the second set of threads on the valve, trying to get them lined up, to unscrew. Way too much opportunitys to cross thread the SP valve, IMHO. "Oh and ours came out first! (IAO for ours, WC for theirs) SC villiage order over 200 of them to replace the valves in there rental tanks, hows that for an endorsment?

And as Tater said, the new screw-ins have the same type channel to relive pressure before the tank seperates from the bottle. Also, due to TSA guidlines (the airline security people) regs will not be using any thread locking compound, so that they can be easily removed for airline travel. but will be torqued onto the bottle.

Shane-O

[Dayspring]

Thanks for the info Shane. (Like I would've supported SP over you guys anyway... :))


Thanks tater, for the help.

Yes it is be user servicable, but with a lifetime warranty, why do it your self? the reg itself will be able to come apart to clean and replace parts if needed, but it has holes for a Spanner wrench to unscrew the top, so it may be hard for someone to service it without the proper tools, or training.

Dayspring, if you look closely at the SP co2 valve, it is about the same length, but, it has a saddle cut to bleed off co2. Now the real problem is this, the threads stop at the saddle cut, then start again farther down. so what can happen is that IF the tank comes unscrewed and starts venting, it can jam the bottom threads right up to the inside neck of the tank and mess up the threads on the valve or the tank. so if something happens like that, you will have to buy a new tankand/or valve. AND if you are just removing it to change it out or such, you can easily booger up the second set of threads on the valve, trying to get them lined up, to unscrew. Way too much opportunitys to cross thread the SP valve, IMHO. "Oh and ours came out first! (IAO for ours, WC for theirs) SC villiage order over 200 of them to replace the valves in there rental tanks, hows that for an endorsment?

And as Tater said, the new screw-ins have the same type channel to relive pressure before the tank seperates from the bottle. Also, due to TSA guidlines (the airline security people) regs will not be using any thread locking compound, so that they can be easily removed for airline travel. but will be torqued onto the bottle.

Shane-O

[manike]

Those fill stations are the BOMB! Best fill stations I've seen or used. Cool stuff. :dance: :dance: :dance:

[PBX Ronin 23]

BTW, in the event that no one on this forum has acknowledged it, Tater and Jon worked their butts off at the 'Cup. They represented AGD in the best possible light and true to the tradition that we've come to expect from the company.

Thumbs up for the two of them!!!!

[cphilip]

Thanks tater, for the help.

Yes it is be user servicable, but with a lifetime warranty, why do it your self? the reg itself will be able to come apart to clean and replace parts if needed, but it has holes for a Spanner wrench to unscrew the top, so it may be hard for someone to service it without the proper tools, or training.

Dayspring, if you look closely at the SP co2 valve, it is about the same length, but, it has a saddle cut to bleed off co2. Now the real problem is this, the threads stop at the saddle cut, then start again farther down. so what can happen is that IF the tank comes unscrewed and starts venting, it can jam the bottom threads right up to the inside neck of the tank and mess up the threads on the valve or the tank. so if something happens like that, you will have to buy a new tankand/or valve. AND if you are just removing it to change it out or such, you can easily booger up the second set of threads on the valve, trying to get them lined up, to unscrew. Way too much opportunitys to cross thread the SP valve, IMHO. "Oh and ours came out first! (IAO for ours, WC for theirs) SC villiage order over 200 of them to replace the valves in there rental tanks, hows that for an endorsment?

And as Tater said, the new screw-ins have the same type channel to relive pressure before the tank seperates from the bottle. Also, due to TSA guidlines (the airline security people) regs will not be using any thread locking compound, so that they can be easily removed for airline travel. but will be torqued onto the bottle.

Shane-O


Feel free to also start a Dealer thread over in Dealers forum where you can list prices there and all.... Nice products from one of my favoritest companies.

[wyn1370]

BTW, in the event that no one on this forum has acknowledged it, Tater and Jon worked their butts off at the 'Cup. They represented AGD in the best possible light and true to the tradition that we've come to expect from the company.

Thumbs up for the two of them!!!!
and that has what to do with air america products???? :confused:

[p8ntball365]

anyone else think the bleed valves should be a field regulation? players and staff stay safe and it keeps insurance bills down.

[Dayspring]

FYI- Smart Parts' valve

http://www.warpig.com/paintball/tournament/psp/2004/cup/gallery/vendors/IMG7685.jpg


Dayspring, if you look closely at the SP co2 valve, it is about the same length, but, it has a saddle cut to bleed off co2. Now the real problem is this, the threads stop at the saddle cut, then start again farther down. so what can happen is that IF the tank comes unscrewed and starts venting, it can jam the bottom threads right up to the inside neck of the tank and mess up the threads on the valve or the tank. so if something happens like that, you will have to buy a new tankand/or valve. AND if you are just removing it to change it out or such, you can easily booger up the second set of threads on the valve, trying to get them lined up, to unscrew. Way too much opportunitys to cross thread the SP valve, IMHO. "Oh and ours came out first! (IAO for ours, WC for theirs) SC villiage order over 200 of them to replace the valves in there rental tanks, hows that for an endorsment?

[manike]

anyone else think the bleed valves should be a field regulation? players and staff stay safe and it keeps insurance bills down.

I believe they are working on making it an ASTM and industry standard.

[kevdupuis]

Glad to see they're out.
Dan and Deb gave Deb and I a small preview before Shatnerball when we were in picking up an order.
Looks like it's time to make another order.

[hitech]

if you look closely at the SP co2 valve, it is about the same length, but, it has a saddle cut to bleed off co2. Now the real problem is this, the threads stop at the saddle cut, then start again farther down. so what can happen is that IF the tank comes unscrewed and starts venting, it can jam the bottom threads right up to the inside neck of the tank and mess up the threads on the valve or the tank.

It looks to me like the whole valve/bottle could fail at that point and turn the bottle into a missle. The large cut looks like a much better idea.

[gc82000]

Yeah some AA screw ins. I used to have the old raptors that weighed about 5lbs, how much do the new ones weigh.

[manike]

Yeah some AA screw ins. I used to have the old raptors that weighed about 5lbs, how much do the new ones weigh.

The new screw ins are very short and light. Also a cool matt finish ano. :headbang:

[p8ntball365]

I believe they are working on making it an ASTM and industry standard.
you guys are always thinking ;)

[GoatBoy]

Does the Airbase have anything in it that slows the fill rate down?

[ProX9]

There is yet another advantage to the aa co2 valve, once it starts to leak the person will obviously begin to hear before it truly becomes dangerous, and since the channel cant be plugged by thread lock that will always hold true. Im sure that the valve that came off and killed that woman gave very little warning sound since it was plugged it would not have made much noise till it was too late.

[oldsoldier]

You know...I'm almost sold on these. But, I have one question though...

























Can you fit a hamster into the bottle? :rofl:

[Shane-O-Mac]

And Remember, the new screw-in HPA tanks, have the same type feature as the co2 valves! it has a channel cut into the threads to release all air before becoming a missile.

Goatboy: the airbase push button will slow the air fill some, but, it is best if your tank is completley empty, that you push the button quick and let off quick, repeating as needed so that you get a slow build up of air in your tank, until you get to 800 psi or so. it really has been that way since the begining of using the push button type stations, but NO one advertised or reccomended it but us.

Shane-O

[Banshee23]

Does anyone know if AA is ever going to have the Abaddon available here in the US?

[Shane-O-Mac]

Abbadon=on hold................................

Dont know when or if we will see it in production. there are some issuses to get straight first. But i belive that if you call AA, the Apoc 2k is on special, and it is as light as the Abbadon is.

Shane-O