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drewrw
12-09-2004, 10:20 AM
What is considered "decently fast" on a mech RT? Just curious what you guys thought. And thats without rapid-fire. :headbang: ;)

BPS-----16? 15? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10? 9? whatcha think

yakitori
12-09-2004, 11:18 AM
What is considered "decently fast" on a mech RT? Just curious what you guys thought. And thats without rapid-fire. :headbang: ;)

BPS-----16? 15? 14? 13? 12? 11? 10? 9? whatcha think

11-13bps w/ ULT

trains are bad
12-09-2004, 11:19 AM
10 bps

Thordic
12-09-2004, 11:38 AM
10 bps

10 is fast for a classic mag.

12-14 would be fast on a RT.

But you can't sustain BPS as well on an RT as you can on an electro it seems. Works fine for snap shooting though. :)

yakitori
12-09-2004, 11:44 AM
10 is fast for a classic mag.

12-14 would be fast on a RT.

But you can't sustain BPS as well on an RT as you can on an electro it seems. Works fine for snap shooting though. :)


agreed. 12-14bps on a ULT Mag is decent speed, but not easily sustained as is my emag.

trains are bad
12-09-2004, 11:46 AM
Sorry, I think you are falling for BS. A sustained 10bps is damn fast for an Rt without special firing techniques.

I think people forget what true 13bps sounds like.

I should make a little metronome thing for paintballers.

Realize an m16 fires at a little over 10 rounds per second.

yakitori
12-09-2004, 11:52 AM
we are talking about 13 bps for about 5-6 shots or even 8. And yes that it possible. I know what 13 sounds like cause I use an emag for my main marker, and my backup ULT mag is very fast for about 5-6 shots.

Thordic
12-09-2004, 12:14 PM
Sorry, I think you are falling for BS. A sustained 10bps is damn fast for an Rt without special firing techniques.

I think people forget what true 13bps sounds like.

I should make a little metronome thing for paintballers.

Realize an m16 fires at a little over 10 rounds per second.

I sound test myself at home, its not BS. 9-10 BPS is easily attainable on an intelliframed classic mag.

12-14 is attainable on a ULT RT.

These are peak speeds, your average will be lower depending on how long your sample time is.

drewrw
12-09-2004, 12:25 PM
Thats funny. When i posted a vid not to long ago i was sustaining 10-11 bps and lots of people said I was slow. In the vid i could get much faster but i wanted to wait and make a better vid with a better cam. z-man did a sound test on it. Thats wiithout ult. Interesting.

drewrw
12-09-2004, 12:25 PM
Do you guys wanna see the vid or the sound test LMK

68magOwner
12-09-2004, 02:48 PM
10 bps on any mech (other than hAir, ect) is very fast

trains are bad
12-09-2004, 03:18 PM
12-14 is attainable on a ULT RT.

without fanning, or walking, or sweetspotting? sorry, don't believe it.

thelane
12-09-2004, 04:34 PM
yes plz sho us the vid dreww

:shooting: :dance:
-lane the flying skwril

personman
12-09-2004, 04:49 PM
without fanning, or walking, or sweetspotting? sorry, don't believe it.
Are those somehow nonvalid ways of shooting a paintball gun? How else are we supposed to shoot it? Shooting the traditional way, you cant expect to get over like 8 bps, and thats with any gun.
I've got around 12 on a single trigger old skool rt fanning.. no ult.. what a workout :p
I get 12-13 fairly consistantly on my ult mag fanning it..
I would say 14-15 is just about the limit for legal shooting with mags. I dont know if anyone can shoot that fast though.
I consider 12-13 decently fast :)

punkncat
12-09-2004, 07:44 PM
I am not sure what you mean by "rapid fire". RT's by their very design have a built in sweetspot. With the right frame or sear rod , on/off, or pressure adjustment they can scream. We have all seen Zmans video.....

With a Logic frame on my RTP and the stops adjusted just so I could easily get it to fire faster than my egg.

ojhspyro89
12-10-2004, 03:37 PM
Show the vid and ill do a crude sound analysis.

Lorenz0666
12-10-2004, 04:24 PM
i was happy when i got 11 bps on my x valved minimag

Thordic
12-10-2004, 04:27 PM
without fanning, or walking, or sweetspotting? sorry, don't believe it.

Whats wrong with fanning or walking if you can do it right? Tard.

warbeak2099
12-10-2004, 04:37 PM
Agreed, fanning my ULT'd RTcustom I get around 12bps.

But what about rapid-firing? I know Z-man can get like 30bps with a 3000psi scuba tank hooked right into the side of the valve. But what's average? What can the average person do with say 4500psi flatline, lotsa shims on their ult, and an x/rt-valve of course?

drewrw
12-10-2004, 05:44 PM
yes plz sho us the vid dreww

:shooting: :dance:
-lane the flying skwril



sure no prob.... ill post the link in a sec

drewrw
12-10-2004, 05:46 PM
Show the vid and ill do a crude sound analysis.



I dont need you to do a sound test. I had z-man do one... i trust him more than anyone on this forum so...... but anyways here is the sound test lol

drewrw
12-10-2004, 05:47 PM
Oh and the link to the vid----


http://www.jayloo.com/files/vids/300/RT_deer_tree_804a.wmv :wow:

drewrw
12-10-2004, 05:49 PM
I am not sure what you mean by "rapid fire". RT's by their very design have a built in sweetspot. With the right frame or sear rod , on/off, or pressure adjustment they can scream. We have all seen Zmans video.....

With a Logic frame on my RTP and the stops adjusted just so I could easily get it to fire faster than my egg.

Rapid fire means finding the sweetspot and the trigger bounces off your finger with increased input pressure. With 800PSI at least I, cant hit the sweetspot. So it is different than pulling the trigger every time(fanning) which is what I do-at least in the vid. If you claim to have seen all of z-mans videos then you should know what Rapid Fire means. :headbang:


Oh and preach on Thordic.... good points :headbang:

warbeak2099
12-10-2004, 06:05 PM
Yea, and how fast is that on average? Average meaning, a tank (flatline) inputting around 1000psi into an x/rt valve w/ or w/o ult (many shims of course).

FreakBaller12
12-10-2004, 06:06 PM
http://www.teamdob.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50
:) I'm not entirely sure that's completely accurate.

drewrw
12-10-2004, 06:08 PM
I would think you would at least get 18 like that but dont hold me to that. I have never rapid-fired before. :rolleyes:

MonsterMag
12-10-2004, 06:11 PM
Rapid fire means finding the sweetspot and the trigger bounces off your finger with increased input pressure. With 800PSI at least I, cant hit the sweetspot.

Thats false , atm743 had his r-t sweetstoped with a crossfire ,Dj89 and I wwew there to witness it , its was amazing

drewrw
12-10-2004, 06:15 PM
ok and what is your point. Im missing it.

MonsterMag
12-10-2004, 06:20 PM
m point is that with alot of time tweaking you can sweetspot a r-t and make it go fast ;)

drewrw
12-10-2004, 08:00 PM
The thing is I dont want to sweetspot it nor do I need to. And, in my post, I stated that I could not get the sweetspot with a 800psi tank. I never said you couldnt do it? Right? Kinda seems like your putting words in my mouth. I never made a generalization.

MonsterMag
12-10-2004, 08:04 PM
sorry :(