Is this any Good?

[Gumbe]

hey, i am new to the hole mag type, and i need help chocing if this is a good marker or not. is has a levle 10 bolt, "hyper fram"(i dont know what that it) and is has max flow, it also come with a hpa tank and revvt(witch i already have)

heres a picture

http://www.proadvantagepaintball.com/prod_image/rick-1.gif

[personman]

It looks like a good one to me. How much are you paying?

[Gumbe]

i am paying 550 on that, i would also like to know what will it cap at? and what kinda of frame is that

[JoshK]

That is a Hyperframe. Its a electro frame that (with its stock board) is capped at 13bps.

That is a ok offer if it comes with the tank.

Mine is basically that but.

No lvl 10
No tank
JnJ Barrel Kit
Ule body

Those together arnt as much as your stuff...and mine could go for bout 450...so 550 seems god.

[Gumbe]

well that barrle isnt stock it a sp tear drop, and so your saying ti a good deal i should get ti and upgrade the frame, but this is a sear gun, it not a true electro marker is it?

[JoshK]

its a true electro gun...its just not a pure electro pnuematic gun...but you wont be disapointed with these guns...and you can upgrade the frame for (i believe $90), and it will have a 20 bps board with tourny lock. And thats ifd the guy hasnt allready upgraded it.

[Gumbe]

i am candian jsut to let you know, so i think ill look in to that thanks you,

[JoshK]

and you mentioned taking apart spyders and tippmanns....you will be pleasently surprised how easy these gun come apart....their simplicity...and their quality of shooting.

[personman]

550 canadian?
That isnt that bad. Looks like a decent deal. One thing you might look into is the ULT. It makes the hyperframe run better :)
That, and im pretty sure the 20 bps board only costs about 75 dollars. Just call centerflag.
After that the gun will be sweet :shooting:

[JoshK]

DUDE!!!! 550 canadian? I didnt make that connection...DO IT!!!! :clap: :cheers:

[Mr. Mouse]

put it this way..... id do it if i were you :)

[Gumbe]

ight thanks guy you been a great help and i will do it, but one more thing can i put sticky grip on that?

[JoshK]

no...but this one guy in the dealers forum will be making some carbon fibre grips...and he might be able to make stickies...he was talking about it.

[Gumbe]

al right, i think i may just get that gun, and but a whole new frame on it.

[jamescell]

welcome to AO. Trust us, you will be very happy with your choice :D

[jamescell]

wait wait, if I was you I would keep the frame. If your not happy with the speed of it simply get the upgrade. Your going to have to drop alot more to get a totally new frame that is better. I would say the devil mag frame would be the only other choice.

[Gumbe]

so your saying i should what, buy a new borad, 13bps isnt fast enough :mad: lol, i would prefer somthing like 20 bps.

[DiSoRdeR]

i would prefer somthing like 20 bps.
You can upgrade it with a new 20bps board.

[Gumbe]

yeah but would my proshop be able to get that or would i need to get it off the internet, and i dont like thouse grib what can i do about them?

[DiSoRdeR]

Im not sure how you could get it, I would definitly call them though. Maybe your local paintball store can order them for you. As for the grips I have never seen aftermartket ones, so you best bet would be some custom ones or you could always try to mod a pair of grips to fit it.

[Gumbe]

well I was looking at it and it look like if i cut some off the sticky grib it could fit it i dont know, and what it the borad called that i should look for?

[xXHavokXx]

And here I thought the inhabitants of the frozen north could spell better than us.

[Gumbe]

well sorry mr 23 year old, am 15, i came here for help not to discus my spelling issue, ok i dont think it is to much to ask for help when someone need help, and i think you are very immature to make fun of someone spelling.

[personman]

Call Centerflag for the board, you can only get it through them. Tell them you want the 20 BPS hyperframe board for the automag and you want to know if you can trade in your 13 bps board for the 20 bps one. Or you can ask your proshop if they can order it from centerflag for you.
http://www.centerflagproducts.com/
Their phone is (1) 630-553-2611

As for grips, heather frymark will make you grips that are like stickys. Just contact her.
http://www.grip-me.com/home.htm
I'm pretty sure she will do centerflag grips. She has done them in the past if I'm not mistaken.

[Gumbe]

ok thanks you

[Gumbe]

550 canadian?
That isnt that bad. Looks like a decent deal. One thing you might look into is the ULT. It makes the hyperframe run better :)
That, and im pretty sure the 20 bps board only costs about 75 dollars. Just call centerflag.
After that the gun will be sweet :shooting:

ULT what is that? and how does it make the hyper frame run better?

[personman]

ULT is the ultra light trigger mod from AGD. It replaces the on/off.
http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=358&categoryID=9
It makes the hyperframe run better because it decreases the amount of wieght the solenoid has to push against, therefore increasing battery life and making the gun fire more reliably. :)
It isn't a nessicary mod though :)

[Gumbe]

ight i will look into that, but i have one more question i have been reading here that soem tank will starve the gun for air, i have a pure energy 3000psi steel tank and it has a pre set reg at 800psi will that be good for this gun?

[personman]

That will be fine. 800 psi is just right for a mag. I'm pretty sure the absolute lowest you should run in there is 650, anything 700 psi and up will work great.

[Gumbe]

how many short will i get out of this, on my 98c i got 800shot, will it be the same or less or more?

[personman]

it depends, what is the size of your tank?
if its a 47/3k then you iwll only get about 470 shots, give or take
if it's a 68/3k then you will get around 680 shots give or take.
those are very rough numbers though.

[Gumbe]

oh sorry it a 48 ci tank 3000psi, and only 450, OMG, that pretty bad comparied to my 98c.

Edit i saw that hair trigger video sorry for not beleving that mech gun and rip :hail: that is NUTS

[jewie27]

make sure it has level 10 so you don't chop.

[Gumbe]

as i said befor it does have a levle 10 right now i wanak nwo how many shot a 300psi 48ci pre set reg at 800psi tank will give me on that gun

[Southparkrocks]

I don't wanna sound mean or anything but aren't there plenty of better looking mags you can get for 550 canadian?

[DiSoRdeR]

i wanak nwo how many shot a 300psi 48ci pre set reg at 800psi tank will give me on that gun

3000psi
10 Shots per ci.
47ci = 470 Shots
68ci = 680 Shots
88ci = 880 Shots
114ci = 1140 Shots

4500psi
15 Shots per ci.
68ci = 1020 Shots
88ci = 1320 Shots
114ci = 1720 Shots

[Gumbe]

yeah i do admit that in that picture that look bad, he** i didnt even want anything to do with it for 6month, but when i went into my proshop and told jamie(owner) that i was in the marker he showed me it and told me the price is lowered for 550, and it look ALOT better in real life nice and shinny

[Gumbe]

i also have one more consern how many psi should i ran this at?

[Gumbe]

bump

[Skywalker]

You should run it around 800 psi. Is that a chrome hyperframe? If your looking to get rid of it, please let me know. Thanks

Skywalker

[Gumbe]

igth when i get my money together still need 100, and i dislike the chrome frame ill pm you

[JoshK]

Call Centerflag for the board, you can only get it through them. Tell them you want the 20 BPS hyperframe board for the automag and you want to know if you can trade in your 13 bps board for the 20 bps one. Or you can ask your proshop if they can order it from centerflag for you.
http://www.centerflagproducts.com/
Their phone is (1) 630-553-2611

As for grips, heather frymark will make you grips that are like stickys. Just contact her.
http://www.grip-me.com/home.htm
I'm pretty sure she will do centerflag grips. She has done them in the past if I'm not mistaken.

I have asked Centerflag, and its $100 plus about 20 to tune, and install it. Plus Heather will not even consider making Hyperframe grips (trust me, quite a few people have tried). But there is a thread here.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1737345

He said he will make them. They will cost anywere between $10 and $30.

[personman]

Are you sure? That doenst sound right to me.
I seem to remember it being $75 or so ofr the board maybe I just have a bad memory.
And why wont heather make grips for the hyperframe? I dont see why not? I could have sworn she's done it before.. oh well.

[hitech]

And why wont heather make grips for the hyperframe? I dont see why not? I could have sworn she's done it before.. oh well.

She has. I have a pair. :D

[JoshK]

She said she lost the mold or something, but there isnt enough interest to make a new one. And that price may not be a trade in deal...and is just for the board :confused: .