Body question and a Warp question and various others

[Boydster]

Will bodies like this (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=159245&highlight=emag+body) fit on a Classic rail?

If I get an X-Valve, is this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10554&item=7126348921&rd=1) the appropriate kit?

I saw a warp for sale that has a hose that goes into a vertical feed. Can this be converted to go straight into a pf bottom without any other parts? Or do I need to buy something?

Thanks.

[deathstalker]

Yes (and it hurt so much to get rid of my SS No-Rise:( ) Sigh... Mine went for peanuts on eBay :(:(

Yes and no. Not all parts in that kit are for an X-Valve. You're better off buying a kit specifically for newer RTs. I'd say shoot the seller an email. Looks like he can hook you up.

It depends on what adapter comes with the Warp you saw for sale. There are four of which I am aware: the stock one that comes with the kit, Pro Team Products' (MUCH better than AGD's, IMO), Bad Dog's (sorry, I did a quick search and couldn't find it), and RogueFactor's. Rogue's is the one that replaces the feed neck on your vert feed ULE body. You must then use either the AGD, Bad Dog, or PTP adapter to fit over the feed neck.

You can definitely use the AGD and PTP adapters on PF (non-Warp) bodies, and you should be able to use Bad Dog's (will edit to correct). If you use it on a PF (non-Warp) body, you need the extended PF plug if the hose connects to the bottom of it. If it connects to the top, you can just use your standard one.
Here are links to Rogue's (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113814) and Bad Dog's.

Here's a pic of ULE bodies, the AGD and PTP adapters, and the two styles of PF plugs.

[Boydster]

I know the adapter that was on the hose was black. Probably the pro team products that you have pictured there. Thanks for the info.

I saw one for newer rt styles. Is the X-valve exactly the same as an RT Pro? That's what the kit was for in the next rt parts kit I saw.

Now I just need to decide on a ULE body or a ss no rise. How heavy is the ss no rise compared to a stock pf body?

Thanks.

[deathstalker]

I regret not weighing my No-Rise, but I thought it was very light. The only other SS body I've owned is a CF MiniMag one, and I thought the No-Rise was noticeably lighter than that. ULE should still be lightest.

I think one of the biggest things you should keep in mind is the fact that the No-Rise uses T/L barrels, while the ULE uses cocker threaded ones. CF T/L barrels are somewhat difficult to find, but I never had a problem using a PF L/R one. I just added another o-ring in the front groove and it never moved.

Here's another thing to consider: use a HALO? The No-Rise was designed for it. :)

The RT Pro and X-valves are the same.

[Boydster]

How close was it to the ULE? I have three barrels I'd still want to use.

I'd probably use the no rise with the Warp. If not the warp, I'd just have a Revvy. I realize that there won't be many balls wainting to fall in the chamber with this body.

So I can use pf l/r barrels with a centerfeed. Well, if it lines up, why wouldn't I? Is the body wider in cf bodies?

[deathstalker]

Oh, I forgot. Warp + No-Rise = PITA

The clamping neck on the No-Rise isn't very wide. You can dremel the AGD adapter to fit in, and I guess if you are able, you can do the same to the PTP. Just a pain in the butt, in my opinion.

Here's my advice for the body, but it still comes down to you.. If you know you are going to use the Warp every time, buy a Warp ULE body. You can use the AGD adapter that comes with the Warp, or you can buy the PTP adapter. It's up to you.

If you think you will want to switch between Warp and vert, buy a vert ULE body and RogueFactor's adapter, then you can use the AGD or PTP adapter in conjunction with it.

If you really want the No-Rise, stick with the Revy or you can keep an eye on the forums or eBay for a nicely-priced HALO. They're really not much more than a new Warp and you can sell your Revy to offset the cost or keep it as a backup (my recommendation).

[Boydster]

I think I'll be using the warp and the a normal vert setup.

Is that rouge thing required to get a warp hose on?

I have, well it's included with my purchase, a Pro team products adapter. I can't just use that?

That Rouge factor thing, are they both installed at once? Or do I need to unscrew one and put the other one?

[Little_Ho]

Hi i have two setups with a Warp here are the pics. If you wanna use the PF Body with the Warp from the Bottom, you need, like i did, a longer PF plug....Ask if you want to know more.

This one is the Powerfeed Hooper right
http://mitglied.lycos.de/pezipezi/America/Paintball/Marker/Automag%20after%20Upgrade/WF%20Minimag%20with%20TearDrop2.JPG


This one is the Powerfeed Hooper left (older pic dont have it anymore)
http://mitglied.lycos.de/pezipezi/America/Paintball/Marker/Automag%20after%20Upgrade/AM%20WF%2016%20and%2012inch%20right1.JPG


This one it the Warpfeed Body with the Warp setup

http://mitglied.lycos.de/pezipezi/America/Paintball/Marker/!!!Special%20Mag!!!/IMG_3381.JPG