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SpitFire1299
02-01-2005, 10:50 PM
http://www.bunkerbid.com/index.php?cPath=24&sort=2a&page=2

I dont understand... theres these new guns called Semi Automags or something. Who creates these guns!? (I know its not AGD, im not dumb)

Can they use Automag?
Target Practice
02-01-2005, 10:53 PM
40 bucks? Jeez. Talk about poor name association.
tippmannsniper-
02-01-2005, 11:07 PM
that my friends is a perfect example of a POS
JimmyBeam
02-01-2005, 11:09 PM
uh.....can they do that? well i know they can, but isnt there some sort of infingement?
SuiciDal Sn Y p ER
02-01-2005, 11:15 PM
O yay, now the mag will be known to some as cheap spyder clones
Duzzy
02-01-2005, 11:18 PM
Off hand I would say System-X makes them. And I won't elaborate on quality because I am extremely prejudiced against them. I bought on of their first barrels and the chrome flaked after the first game and their customer service back then was :cuss: .
WARPED1
02-01-2005, 11:19 PM
We all know the mag is niether cheap nor a Spyder clone. But the rest of the world will now think they are. Sad really................
Mr. Mouse
02-01-2005, 11:19 PM
i use that for toliet paper
AGD
02-01-2005, 11:31 PM
I emailed them to change it asap. Going to be problems if they don't. Its probably just a typo.

AGD
Target Practice
02-01-2005, 11:33 PM
I emailed them to change it asap. Going to be problems if they don't. Its probably just a typo.

AGD

Tom, the ENFORCER.
jamescell
02-01-2005, 11:36 PM
Where do these guys get the balls to do stuff like that? :tard:
WARPED1
02-01-2005, 11:58 PM
Those guns are great......FOR ME TO POOP ON!!
AnArchist_1944
02-02-2005, 01:45 AM
Tom to the rescue :D
SpecialBlend2786
02-02-2005, 01:48 AM
Those guns are great......FOR ME TO POOP ON!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA


go get 'em TOM! (if they dont change it of course)
Enemy
02-02-2005, 03:28 AM
I emailed them to change it asap. Going to be problems if they don't. Its probably just a typo.

AGD
hey check the sig it says former pres. of agd!!!


but it looks more like a typo on the website than it does the marker ie there are no markings on the marker that say automag more like g7 and such..
Raven001
02-02-2005, 07:25 AM
Was't the original Automag a .44 magnum pistol made by AMT? or how about these guys
http://www.automagparts.com/
SpitFire1299
02-02-2005, 08:06 AM
They probley were thinking of how cool automags were and put semi-automag instead of semi-automatic. :rolleyes:
teufelhunden
02-02-2005, 08:11 AM
Was't the original Automag a .44 magnum pistol made by AMT? or how about these guys
http://www.automagparts.com/


Technically, the AGD Paintball gun is the 68Automag. If I remember correctly, Tom said they added the 68 to avoid infringing on the nakesake, and I guess since it's in a different market, it's no issue.
Evil Bob
02-02-2005, 09:31 AM
Was't the original Automag a .44 magnum pistol made by AMT? or how about these guys
http://www.automagparts.com/


Clint Eastwood brandishing his .44 auto mag - "When used correctly, this will remove the finger prints."

Yeah, AMT's had gear out for years, they're prety much collector's items at this point since AMT is long gone.

The name difference is pretty easy, AMT put a space between the two words, Tom didnt.

-Evil Bob
Maggot6
02-02-2005, 10:17 AM
Tom to the rescue :D

Thank god...I was hoping he'd see this thread.
FireITup14
02-02-2005, 04:06 PM
thats not even worthy for being used as a doorstop
XSSPL
02-03-2005, 01:25 AM
That's no typo - I garauntee you they knew exactly what they were doing when they placed that add with that description of that brown-lawn-ornament of a marker. Sorry *** Chinese crap.
SpitFire1299
02-09-2005, 10:51 AM
Its still there...!!! :( :(
txaggie08
02-09-2005, 11:06 AM
im seeing........lawsuit

it should come with a disclaimer saying "were trying to be sued"
BeaverEater
02-09-2005, 02:33 PM
well considering its not exactly the same name, i really don't think legal action is really possible.
Lohman446
02-09-2005, 02:35 PM
well considering its not exactly the same name, i really don't think legal action is really possible.


In my non-educated opinion (Im not a lawyer) its a clear violation of trade dress laws. Use of the name, or a name so close that it could confuse consumers.
WARPED1
02-09-2005, 02:45 PM
They have AutoMag, AGD has 68Automag. That capital m will probably prevent any legal action.
BeaverEater
02-09-2005, 03:05 PM
well look at wal-mart and k-mart, they dont sure over the use of mart. And if im not mistaken, there are other products with the name automag in it.
Buff
02-09-2005, 04:03 PM
the site seems to be down........
:clap:
Muzikman
02-09-2005, 04:25 PM
Anyone can sue anyone over anything. I don't like your hair color, I can take you to court because if it. I probably would not win and be laughed out of the court room, but I can do it. The name automag can be used, but I am sure Tom does like it being used in the paintball world. I don't think it falls under trade dress, but I am sure you could convince the court that they are in the wrong.

This is kind of like Apple computers and Apple (the record company). They had an agreement from back in the early 80's where Apple computer would only use the name "Apple" in the computer industry. When they moved into the music market (iTunes) the name "Apple" was going to used. Apple (the record company) put a stop to it.
SlartyBartFast
02-09-2005, 04:53 PM
well look at wal-mart and k-mart, they dont sure over the use of mart. And if im not mistaken, there are other products with the name automag in it.

D'uh. :tard:

"Mart" is an English word and can't be trademarked.
Look it up in the dictionary:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=mart&x=12&y=12

Apple Computer vs. Applecorps is also a case of Trademark/Tradename
http://www.forbes.com/2003/09/12/cx_ah_0912aapl.html
BeaverEater
02-09-2005, 05:00 PM
I realize that but auto and mag are also in there. I was just trying to make a point. Since the name isnt exactly the same, AGD can really do nothing about it.

Edit: Also, type in automag in google and see how many non-AGD sites pop-up.
Muzikman
02-09-2005, 05:26 PM
Edit: Also, type in automag in google and see how many non-AGD sites pop-up.


Correct, but how many are paintball releated?
SlartyBartFast
02-09-2005, 05:31 PM
I realize that but auto and mag are also in there. I was just trying to make a point. Since the name isnt exactly the same, AGD can really do nothing about it.

Edit: Also, type in automag in google and see how many non-AGD sites pop-up.

But, Automag isn't in the dictionary....
:rolleyes:
BeaverEater
02-09-2005, 05:53 PM
Correct, but how many are paintball releated?

actually about a quarter of them are non paintball related.


But, Automag isn't in the dictionary....
:rolleyes:

Did i say it was no. Auto and mag are, just as mart is not k-mart or wal-mart.
Muzikman
02-09-2005, 05:55 PM
actually about a quarter of them are non paintball related.

Ok, and the ones that are paintball releated are about the AGD Automag right?
Muzikman
02-09-2005, 05:57 PM
What I am getting at is that if someone came out with a car called the "Automag" Tom would care less and wouldn't bother taking any kind of legal actions. And if he did I am pretty sure he would lose.

But, if a paintball company comes out with a new gun called the "Automag" Tom would be upset and probably take legal actions...and well...he would probably win.
SlartyBartFast
02-09-2005, 06:02 PM
actually about a quarter of them are non paintball related.
Did i say it was no. Auto and mag are, just as mart is not k-mart or wal-mart.

Let's have a little basic lesson:

mart, mag, auto, all actual words, free to use in any combination.

Automag, Kmart, Walmart, all combinations of actual and/or invented words can be claimed as trademarks and tradenames.

Guido >> Common Name
Pizzaria >> Common Business

Guido's Pizzaria >> Trademarkable name. If first on the block/in a city stands a good chance of stoppinganyone else from using the name locally. If it gets registered federally, capable of stopping anyone in the nation from using it.

It's not that hard to understand. Or are you trying to make a point I'm missing....
RogueFactoryKid
02-09-2005, 06:23 PM
Now wait, AGD should just wait until this company grows large and then when nobody is paying attention suckerpunch them with a bunch of lawsuits over patent infringement. Yeah that would be the most clever thing ever.....oh wait....
magman007
02-09-2005, 06:36 PM
why would agd wait for any company to get larger? so that he has the better chance of loosing?
p8ntball365
02-09-2005, 07:14 PM
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is the site not working for anyone else?
BeaverEater
02-09-2005, 10:07 PM
SlartyBartFast - Thats what im trying to say, thank you. They use automag in a combination, they don't outright steal it.

Even if a company that has nothing to do with the same industry take your same name, they could still inflict damage upon your reputation. I.E. bad business practices, fraud, debt and so forth.

does automag even have a copyright or does just AGD have one??
SlartyBartFast
02-10-2005, 09:43 AM
SlartyBartFast - Thats what im trying to say, thank you. They use automag in a combination, they don't outright steal it.

Even if a company that has nothing to do with the same industry take your same name, they could still inflict damage upon your reputation. I.E. bad business practices, fraud, debt and so forth.

does automag even have a copyright or does just AGD have one??


No, no, no, no, no, no. :nono:

You just aren't getting it.

AUTOMAG is the trademark. YOU CAN'T USE SOMEONE ELSE'S TRADEMARK TO SELL ANOTHER PRODUCT! PARTICULARLY IN THE SAME INDUSTRY!

Cripes. You think you could operate a store called "Jack's Walmart"?