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rkjunior303
03-05-2005, 04:30 PM
Any opinions on the 04's... With the recent drop in price, they seem very attractive. I already have a Viking but wouldn't mind picking up a backup.... I've heard you really need the new bolt for the 04's to make them fairly efficient... Aside from that, are there any downsides on them?

Automaggin2
03-05-2005, 07:34 PM
I love em. There super light and small, very very fast, and cheap.

slade
03-06-2005, 02:06 PM
i loved the one i shot at AONE, great marker. i havent heard too much thats bad about them, except from Blazestorm here on AO. check out the dealers section, madmolly has some newer ones (i think they might even have HE) for pretty cheap. with the price drop i have been thinking about getting one. but maybe ill just steal your backup instead ;)

RainTreeBoy
03-06-2005, 04:14 PM
The older generation 1s will come with that sort of weird frame, an older valve, older electronics, and probably won't come with an HE bolt. I'd look for a generation 2 04, if you can find one for cheap, I'd take it over the gen1.

thorn
03-06-2005, 05:29 PM
well, see...theres lots of freestyles..

gen 1.
gen 2.
bonebrake
05.
naughty dogs fs.
freestyle pro.
epic freestyle pro.
destructive customs freestyle pro.
naughty dogs freestyle pro.
freestyle AB

and more to come..personally, i own an 05. its great, and i love it. i mean it could use a few improvements, but for under 700, nothing touches it.

BlackWeenie
03-06-2005, 06:20 PM
is there a way to tell if its gen1 or gen2 just by looking at it??? for example.. would this one be gen1 or 2? http://img81.exs.cx/img81/255/icdfreestyle1ln.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)

viper_ssc
03-06-2005, 06:49 PM
is there a way to tell if its gen1 or gen2 just by looking at it??? for example.. would this one be gen1 or 2? http://img81.exs.cx/img81/255/icdfreestyle1ln.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)
thats a gen1, notice the near 90degree frame.

1stdeadeye
03-06-2005, 06:57 PM
Was ICD purchased by NPS? Just wondering why the Naughty Dogs and Russian Legion switched to them from Empire(NPS).

BlackWeenie
03-06-2005, 07:25 PM
does that mean that it wont accept a HE bolt? (are gen1 freestyles compatible with HE bolts?)

rpm07
03-06-2005, 07:26 PM
Was ICD purchased by NPS? Just wondering why the Naughty Dogs and Russian Legion switched to them from Empire(NPS).

I think both teams are sponsered by NPS and they use both guns

boggerman
03-06-2005, 07:28 PM
Any freestyle that did not come with the HE bolt will need minor machining to accept the HE bolt. ICD will do the install including parts and labor for about $100 last I checked. I did my gen 1 myself, it was a piece of cake.

peewee
03-06-2005, 09:46 PM
Sweet guns Local shop has a 04 body with 05 internals screamin meme $600!!! :shooting: Black to green fade. If I had to have a gun that took batteries the freestyle would be it.

thorn
03-06-2005, 10:37 PM
yes, gen 1's will accept he bolts, but u must send it in to icd. the only fs's with near vert frames are

gen 1's.

gen 2's u can tell because of 45* frame AND sideplates.

05's have different milling, 45* frame, and NO sideplates.

bonebrake's have a 45* frame with no hump, acid anno, cp reg, bb feedneck, stiffi barrel, and custom milling.

naughty dogs have a thumb adjustable lpr, longer hpr, custom (straight) trigger, and dif. milling with a paw print on the backblock.

freestyle pro's have a snatch grip, and a back pull pin, along with shorter (vertically speaking) frames.

nd freestyle pro's: we dont really know yet.

freestyle ab: tricked out custom fsp's.

O_o
03-07-2005, 12:31 AM
I friggin love mine !! Fast, light, low profile, and shoots like a trix with no kick. I haven't had any problems with mine yet.

http://www.sjsuserver.lunarpages.com/history/bbfs.jpg

thorn
03-07-2005, 10:35 PM
nice gun man. i considered buying the last bb out there. special 1 of 1 blue fusion anno, cp reg, milled frame, hybrid stuff, all those cool things.