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SPECIAL_K_06
03-21-2005, 10:23 AM
What would be a good tourney gun for around 600 dollars?

Lohman446
03-21-2005, 10:25 AM
Depends what rules you play under. If you play under ramping PSP rules a pair of Ions :D

Flow_Tech
03-21-2005, 10:27 AM
yea..Ions are nice,get an Ion and upgrade it with the other 300 with a new barrel,reg,feedneckt,trigger,and grips..

The Action Figure
03-21-2005, 10:49 AM
angel ir3 or speed used

SPECIAL_K_06
03-21-2005, 11:05 AM
Where is a good place to find used angels? Would an Impulse be a good gun for a mid player?

The Action Figure
03-21-2005, 12:44 PM
here or pbn, and sure impulses are ok... and there cheap as anything now

JaredMeier
03-21-2005, 01:06 PM
a used angel is a great idea.

rkjunior303
03-21-2005, 01:26 PM
$600?

A used Viking.

magman007
03-21-2005, 01:28 PM
used matrix with a good amount of upgrades can be had for 600, id reccomend looking into it

yakitori
03-21-2005, 02:10 PM
used viking or used matrix. Or a 2k2 timmy (not to crazy bout timmys though)

Id look for a WAS/Pandora viking w/ eyes. That is right around your price range. Maybe a little more ....like 650, maybe less w/o eyes, but trust me, you will want eyes.

CrawforDry
03-21-2005, 02:17 PM
Old angel, new board, new bolt. You could keep it under 400 if you wanted, and you'd have a gun that can consistently throw over 15bps.

JoshK
03-21-2005, 02:27 PM
These are all very nice suggestions...or maybe even a electro mag? Ih...Ions with upgrade, Older matrix, older angel (2k1 or 2k2 lcd's are nice), and even as someone said a viking, are all excellant suggestions. Just look around the net, for pictures, or go to your field and ask people if you could shoot a few rounds through their gun.

also...some good places to look.

angel-owners.com
paintball-guns.com
xtreme-paintball.com (i know one person has a older matrix for sale there)
HERE! lol
pbnation.com

and i might get flamed for this, but if you ask tons of questions, and make sure they are a good seller, you could get a very good deal on ebay

68magOwner
03-21-2005, 03:15 PM
i wouldnt get anything without eyes, so, in your price range, i would reccomend-

ion
matrix
impulse
a wased/predded/HK'ed angel can be had for ~$600
older timmy

jewie27
03-21-2005, 04:26 PM
For a new gun, I say SP Ion. I just tried my friend's two days ago. The trigger is really nice because it's two-way adjustable. It rips hardcore. So fast. It even has eyes in it. No other gun on the market has eyes for about 300 bucks.

Athius
03-21-2005, 04:26 PM
Hey dont forget about the Bushmaster this year model will come with eyes, QEVs, unimount with a on/off and a very cool milling for $450.

Lohman446
03-21-2005, 04:28 PM
For a new gun, I say SP Ion. I just tried my friend's two days ago. The trigger is really nice because it's two-way adjustable. It rips hardcore. So fast. It even has eyes in it. No other gun on the market has eyes for about 300 bucks.


PMI EVO for $250 ish has eyes. Isn't there a Spyder with eyes too?

jewie27
03-21-2005, 04:31 PM
PMI EVO for $250 ish has eyes. Isn't there a Spyder with eyes too?


Spyder's don't have eyes. They have ACS. Anti-Chop System, which is a spring loaded anti-chop bolt. Just like the ones made by Jam Enterprises.

Lohman446
03-21-2005, 04:32 PM
Spyder's don't have eyes. They have ACS. Anti-Chop System, which is a spring loaded anti-chop bolt. Just like the ones made by Jam Enterprises.


Fine.. the Evo has eyes :D

matt-o
03-21-2005, 05:51 PM
the new one thats not a sear tripper has eyes, but i still wouldnt reccomend it. buy my speed for 550, it has eyes. PM me if interested

Sparks
03-21-2005, 06:09 PM
you could buy a massively upgraded mechanical cocker...they're dirt cheap now...and then throw a nice used Race frame on it...there may or may not be one floating around misc. equipment. ;)

electronic cockers are great guns, and you could easily come in under $600 because you aren't factoring in what frame the cocker has on it when you're buying, nor 3-way.

Link44
03-21-2005, 06:41 PM
04 gen 2 freestyle

warbeak2099
03-21-2005, 06:52 PM
For a new gun, I say SP Ion. I just tried my friend's two days ago. The trigger is really nice because it's two-way adjustable. It rips hardcore. So fast. It even has eyes in it. No other gun on the market has eyes for about 300 bucks.

The dragun tes has eyes too and it has a higher cap than an ion. They go for around $225 new. The diablo wrath also has eyes and is around $280.

JimmyBeam
03-21-2005, 07:39 PM
ahhhh, no dont get a Ion, there are too many of us with them as is. but if you must, you wont regret it. 300 for the Ion, & ~300 in ups and you have a great gun

slade
03-21-2005, 08:12 PM
04 gen 2 freestyle
phew! i was wondering when someone was gonna say that! :rolleyes:

paintballfreak90
03-21-2005, 08:29 PM
i have an emag for sale....

68magOwner
03-21-2005, 08:48 PM
ahh, i forgot freestyles, def what i would pick up

saml604
03-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Yea, definently look into a freestyle. With the pro's coming out now, older models brand new have been on clearance for about $400.

Conversekidz
03-22-2005, 12:25 AM
Definatly go for the freestyle, for 100 dollars youcan get the new vaporworks chaos board for it....awsome to say the least.

hobbesTZ
03-22-2005, 01:05 AM
I would go with an Intimidator. You can get the classics really cheap. I happen to like the classic frame just fine so that's one less thing to buy. It's also very flexible, if it has the duals you can always switch back to the stock HPR if whatever else you have goes bad. There are a ton of board options. You can easily get PSP software, NXL, regular, and there if you're short on cash there are a ton of cheap 1.4.3 and SOB boards. If you ever want to update it to Alias standards you can do so for less than the price of a used one. It will also run CO2 fine if you ever have to use it.

Enemy
03-22-2005, 03:31 AM
old led or lcd trix!!!! it really is very nice just remember to adjust that trigger and these things rip!!

ben-afficial
03-22-2005, 10:37 AM
jebus cannon.....all the way :dance:

NUCKING FUTS!
03-22-2005, 04:10 PM
One word: Diadem. Ive seen these things in action, and they arent kidding when they say it gives top-notch performance for a fraction of the price.

www.actionmarkers.com If you go to the Action Markers section on pbnation, you can get someones affiliate code, which will drop the price to $500. I would reccommend getting it without the barrel, reg, or drop, and you get all that stuff yourself.

BTW, i know the grip looks funky, but i havent heard one person who held it say that it wasnt comfy.

onedude36
03-22-2005, 09:03 PM
Umm.... Mag? I thought this was AUTOMAGS.org ne way :D I'd get...

Xvalve
ulebody
ulerail of some sort
20bps hyperframe
ult
^less than 600

that is what I want to do/am doing any way. :D

SPECIAL_K_06
03-22-2005, 09:51 PM
umm...where can i find a hyper frame?