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lautt
04-05-2005, 03:56 PM
Why wont AGD realese a pump kit for the automag

i know you can "jerry rig" one by browsing the internet and eBay for a few months to get all the parts but why not sell one that's ready to install???

i'm sure the demand is there, all we're missing is the offer...

Logic, Rogue, Tuna, i'm also talking to ya ;)

atm743
04-05-2005, 03:59 PM
some one was selling an orginal AIRGUN pump kit with rail and original instructions for quite a bit on AO

im not sure if it sold or not but i saw it with pics

ill try to find it

Creative Mayhem
04-05-2005, 04:19 PM
AGD did sell WHOLE kits YEARS ago. The have NOT been made for YEARS hence the discontinued part and the reason why its hard to find the parts needed. Just suck it up and find a kit and throw it together yourself. With the exception of the milling for the pump slots in the current bodies and rails, the kit is a drop in mod.

lautt
04-05-2005, 04:37 PM
yeah but i'm wondering WHY did they discontinued it, or i should say, why wont they make a new one???

kurama
04-05-2005, 05:14 PM
There were problems with it pinching paint, and not too many people bought the kits, so it was dropped, I believe.

JoshK
04-05-2005, 05:19 PM
There were problems with it pinching paint, and not too many people bought the kits, so it was dropped, I believe.

Isn't that the story of AGD's life? Besides the dropping part... :(

minimag03
04-05-2005, 05:34 PM
I'd buy on if they can out. I dont really feel like watching the net for months when AGD could make and sell easily.

warbeak2099
04-05-2005, 06:13 PM
Maybe it wasn't cost effective. It still isn't. The majority of pump players today use phantoms. It's kind of expensive to build a pump mag compared to just buying a phantom, and it won't be able to compete with a phantom. The phantom will be lighter, better on air, and cheaper. Because of being a gas hog, you really can't play stock with a pump mag either. 12g's + mag = not good.

AGD is not going to spend money on something that wouldn't make any money.

minimag03
04-05-2005, 07:37 PM
Maybe it wasn't cost effective. It still isn't. The majority of pump players today use phantoms. It's kind of expensive to build a pump mag compared to just buying a phantom, and it won't be able to compete with a phantom. The phantom will be lighter, better on air, and cheaper. Because of being a gas hog, you really can't play stock with a pump mag either. 12g's + mag = not good.

AGD is not going to spend money on something that wouldn't make any money.

The main market for the pump kits would be people that are Automag fans, not pump players. Even if they mean't it to be for pump players, many of them would enjoy something different.

warbeak2099
04-05-2005, 08:10 PM
Right, but how many maggers would buy them. Maybe not even 50. That wouldn't be cost effective.

minimag03
04-05-2005, 08:15 PM
Right, but how many maggers would buy them. Maybe not even 50. That wouldn't be cost effective.

I'm sure more than 50 would buy them.

Lohman446
04-05-2005, 08:40 PM
I'm sure more than 50 would buy them.

You know this how?

minimag03
04-05-2005, 09:31 PM
You know this how?

I guess I shouldn't have used "sure". I just belive there would be more then 40 people intersted. The price would be the biggest factor in the amount sales.

Muzikman
04-05-2005, 09:45 PM
It would be just like everything else that every one screams and cries to have and when it's available, no one buys it.

Pump kits arew not that hard to come by. Just buy one.

lautt
04-06-2005, 01:15 PM
Pump kits arew not that hard to come by. Just buy one.

no problem, find one!!!! they're not easy to find....


for those saying they would'nt be cost effective......

pump handle...35$?
upmp rods......2$?
fancy spring.....5$?
other parts......7$?

total 49$.......sell everything for 100$, thats 51$ profit per kit sold x let's say 50 buyers = 2550$ of profit....that's pretty good.

Muzikman
04-06-2005, 05:55 PM
Umm, $2500 wouldn't pay for the rent on the building for a month. $2500 in the business world would be a joke.

BTW: there are quite a few pump mag parts out there. Tom sold all the left over stock on Ebay a few months ago.

tony3
04-06-2005, 05:58 PM
Seriously, you also need to think of the people you are paying to put the kits together and pack them out to be shipped, that takes away from the profit also.

Chronobreak
04-06-2005, 06:13 PM
http://www.whitewolfairsmithing.com/images/Web%20gallery%20AGD/images/dust-black-LP-mag.jpg :ninja:


certain individuals may have some. your going to have to buy them used and you also need a special spring.

anyone with machining capabilites could do it.

btw ive been looking to whore this pic for a while know :cool:

p8ntball365
04-06-2005, 06:18 PM
I think I want to make a pump now, having a pump mag, spyder frame, and the mech...

Can someone link or post how a pump mag works?

lautt
04-06-2005, 07:09 PM
http://www.whitewolfairsmithing.com/images/Web%20gallery%20AGD/images/dust-black-LP-mag.jpg :ninja:


certain individuals may have some. your going to have to buy them used and you also need a special spring.

anyone with machining capabilites could do it.

btw ive been looking to whore this pic for a while know :cool:

yeah it's a pretty funky mag....kinda useless though, a mag with a 10-15 balls feed :tard:

as for the 2500$ profit, well considering everything is already enginered(sp), it would'nt be too bad.

do you really think rogue planed to sell 10 000 vert frames????he also had to think the desing, CAD drawing, do prototypes etc. all this is already done......

Muzikman
04-06-2005, 07:14 PM
And Rogue is a one man shop working out of his basement. All money he makes above his material costs is his to pocket. $2500 profit to him would be great. $2500 profit to a company that has bills and employees, it's a joke.

minimag03
04-06-2005, 07:18 PM
And Rogue is a one man shop working out of his basement. All money he makes above his material costs is his to pocket. $2500 profit to him would be great. $2500 profit to a company that has bills and employees, it's a joke.

It still is a profit, and I still think more than 50 people would buy them.

p8ntball365
04-06-2005, 07:22 PM
I would buy one.

lautt
04-06-2005, 09:48 PM
It still is a profit, and I still think more than 50 people would buy them.

that's my point :rofl:

Chronobreak
04-06-2005, 09:58 PM
the "new" pro classics would be nice for pump use... :ninja:

Recon by Fire
04-07-2005, 09:14 AM
That's what I have been considering; purchasing a new Classic Pro with ULE CF body and having BradAGD convert it to pump.

lautt
04-08-2005, 09:47 AM
That's what I have been considering; purchasing a new Classic Pro with ULE CF body and having BradAGD convert it to pump.

how much does BradAGD charges for the conversion???