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Puddleglum
11-25-2001, 12:03 PM
I was wondering if Mags use a lot of air. I have a 114 3000(I know I know) And I have never shot the whole thing, does anyone have any idea how many shots I'll get with an ANS bolt? But my original question was do Mags use a lot of air, as compared to a Cocker, or any blowback.

Restola
11-25-2001, 01:00 PM
ive heard people say they get about 1200 shots out of their 114ci tanks. i dont know how many i get out of my 68ci, i refill every 3 games or so with about 1000psi left.

Puddleglum
11-25-2001, 01:43 PM
Man, I was hoping for at least 1500.

PyRo
11-25-2001, 01:46 PM
Ive heard of people pulling 1500 from a 68/3000. If you don't already have an ANS bolt, don't buy one. They will not increase your efficiancy at all, and they wear out faster. The only advantage they offer over a stock bolt is the fommie. If you really want a fommie get an AGD fommie bolt (less money and lasts longer), or wait for the superbolt.

azzkikr
11-25-2001, 02:00 PM
I've been told that rts are gas hogs, I know mine is but then again I never keep track of how much I shoot in a game but I know its a good bit. later AZZKIKR

Puddleglum
11-25-2001, 02:43 PM
I have an ANS Phase II bolt. It is non-foamie. Should I replace it?

Dave
11-25-2001, 03:21 PM
arg! Well, I guess they do use a lot of gas...I had my tank filled yesterday and was breaking in the valve(new Retro) and ran out this morning! I have a 68/3000 Pure Energy. But actually, I don't mind, cause usually when I go to get a refill, I end up buying something else!

They do use up air quickly, but I wouldn't trade my baby for the world.

-Dave

also, get a new superbolt if you want the best. They are around $50-55 and rip it up big time! I have used a foamie in the past...it's nice...with the superbolt, you get no recoil...thats nice too:)

XspyX
11-25-2001, 03:58 PM
I shot 400 rounds in a game last month and still had 1000psi in my 48/3000 tank.

Get this: I have an 18" barrel!

Major Ho
11-26-2001, 08:29 PM
If you got a sum of money lying around...Get a scuba tank and scuba tap for...~$220 ? Maybe less, maybe more depending on type of tank and taps dont vary very much. That way you can top yourself off after every few games. I basically got my scuba just for my retro. outta my 68 c.i. 3k i can get about 650 shots i believe, but that its pushing it to its last breaths of air. I also have like 900 psi going into the gun too...so...?
More if you have less air going in?

TheBigRaguPB4L
11-26-2001, 08:39 PM
i have a 68/4500 and a 114/3000 and i'll pull at least 900 from both. sometimes i'll get about 1100 from the 68ci. i use that on my retro mag, stock mag, and z-mag(z-mag, hahaha). actually, the stock mag isn't really stock either but oh well. I don't know if you said it already or not but if you have an adjustable tank, lower the output so you get more shots out of it. but otherwise, i think you should get more shots than that. are you sure they're filling it to 3000psi? i know some people that fill at my field fill it to fast and they let it drop to like 2400psi. you gotta make sure it doesn't drop to much.

Thordic
11-26-2001, 09:45 PM
I don't know about being a gashog, but the Retro valve definitely uses more air than the stock AIR. I noticed that when I borrowed MagDog68's retro valve.

booyah
11-27-2001, 11:52 AM
my experiences with my classic valve powerfeed mag have seen about 800 shots off of a 68 at 3000 psi with a 11 inch barrel (stock RT barrel)

With an RT i could pull about 600 shots off of a 2400psi fill and still have about 900psi still in the tank with the same barrel. so i always figure 800-900 shots between refills or a real paint dumper of a game before I need another fill.



My experiences were an older RT with the stock bolt and a newer powerfeed mag with the extended nose bolt