Hyperframe Blade Trigger Prototype.

[luke]

It has 2 trigger stop adjustments and a switch adjustment. :bounce:

ADDED ON EDIT: I forgot to mention that these are the new HF panels panels without the rubber insert. :ninja:

[Maggot6]

Looking good.. But no chance on bending it forward at all though?

[p8ntball365]

jeez luke you just don't stop. :headbang: :headbang: :dance:

[luke]

What do you mean "bend it forward"?

I could machine a little hook on the bottom, but, I kind of like it straight..... :)

[luke]

jeez luke you just don't stop. :headbang: :headbang: :dance:

I could stop building PB stuff and start building motorcycles. :D Actually been fight the urge. :(


:cheers:

[p8ntball365]

Make grips for a vert frame, that will keep you busy. I'd even send my frame in (as soon as it gets here)

[zazzoo]

yea a lil hook would look nice either still looks good

[luke]

Make grips for a vert frame,


I'm concidering it. :D

[GA Devil]

looking good! im going to PM you with some ideas and questions

[Emert426]

good lord. Sexy, but I agree that a hook or VERY minor hump in the middle would be more to my taste

[AGDlover]

I could stop building PB stuff and start building motorcycles. :D Actually been fight the urge. :(


:cheers:


if you did luke i'd have to kill you! lol jm man why dont you do bolth?

[slade]

What do you mean "bend it forward"?

I could machine a little hook on the bottom, but, I kind of like it straight..... :)
i dont think he meant a hook or anything, he wants a flat trigger, just have the angle more forward like it is on most other triggers, instead of it being bent backwards.

[tdogreb]

I like it just like it is! make me one.

[shartley]

I understand the ease of a straight trigger (for both making, and firing) but to me they always look bland and unattractive. Would it be possible to drill holes or even elongated holes in the trigger where it does not interfere with any of the “workings” of it? It would still maintain strength, but give it a more unique look. It would also give it the “tactical” look that some high end trigger modifications for standard firearms have.

Just thinking out loud…

[JoshK]

I understand the ease of a straight trigger (for both making, and firing) but to me they always look bland and unattractive. Would it be possible to drill holes or even elongated holes in the trigger where it does not interfere with any of the “workings” of it? It would still maintain strength, but give it a more unique look. It would also give it the “tactical” look that some high end trigger modifications for standard firearms have.

Just thinking out loud…


Like this kind of dulybob?

http://www.airsplat.com/mmAIRSPLAT/Images/GP-HGNB-125B.jpg

Where they have the holes in the trigger.

[shartley]

Yes. But some are even more carved out. The one you posted is actually rather “mild” compared to what some are.

[Pyroboy597]

Luke, you could make a TON of cash making ION parts, people who have made ion triggers and are selling them all get a ton of orders. If you can come up with a cheap ion body that looks cool, you would sell as many as you could make.

[luke]

Not much can be done on the side because it is so thin.

On the front side there is 2 set screws for adjustments, which only leaves the lower half (less actually) to do anything with.

The trigger can be adjusted forward some if you don't like it at the current angle, but the trigger guard is pretty small as it is. ;)

[A-Tach-One]

Hey Luke, how about tappering it down just a little bit more towards the bottom? Not too much though. :D I have to say it looks pretty darn good. :)

[Gumbe]

sorry if i make no scence but i kinda of like this idea......but with the ajustable screws could you make the bottem of it fowered a little while leaving the top where it is so it kinda of on an angle......if you can do that i might have to think about buying it

[luke]

Hey Luke, how about tappering it down just a little bit more towards the bottom? Not too much though. :D I have to say it looks pretty darn good. :)

Thats do-able. :)

[Gumbe]

how much will this cost? or how much do you think

[luke]

but with the ajustable screws could you make the bottem of it fowered a little while leaving the top where it is so it kinda of on an angle.

With the current design, the trigger can be adjusted forward to the point that it is vertical to the body.

I could machine it where it could go forward a little more, I could angle it forward as much as it’s angled backwards now.

Adjustments are limited in direction because the adjusting screw that contacts the switch must line up, to far one way or another and it will miss it's target. ;)

[luke]

how much will this cost? or how much do you think

Can't talk prices here, it's against the rules. But it will likly come in less that other aftermarket triggers.

[Gumbe]

alright well when u post the prices up but a link here please

[AGDlover]

huh and i was thinking about doing a hyper framed mag one of thease days so good chances i'll be picking up one of thease triggers

[Gumbe]

do we have to send in our frame to you?...or wat

[slade]

alright well when u post the prices up but a link here please
he'll post a thread in the dealers forum.

do we have to send in our frame to you?...or wat
take a hammer and small nail and knock the trigger pin out and you can pull the trigger out of the frame. put the new trigger in, line it up, and LIGHTLY hammer the pin back in. then adjust the set screws, and youre ready to go.

[ShadowNife]

ey how much would one of these that goes on a y-grip cost <_<

hit me up on PM cuz i want something and i was just wondering the general costs.

[slade]

ey how much would one of these that goes on a y-grip cost <_<

hit me up on PM cuz i want something and i was just wondering the general costs.
look in the dealers section at Rogue's triggers.

[luke]

Luke, you could make a TON of cash making ION parts, people who have made ion triggers and are selling them all get a ton of orders. If you can come up with a cheap ion body that looks cool, you would sell as many as you could make.

Sorry, I missed this before.

I suppose I could, but the stuff I currently make tend to be based on the products I use. Not to say that ION stuff is out of the question, but I don't own one to design products for. I get ideas for products based on what I don't like about factory made parts.

[luke]

All of "slades" answers to current questions are right on the mark. :cool:

[tyrion2323]

Hey Luke,

Well, it looks good, though I agree that with a "hook" or curve on the bottom, it would really look at a lot more aesthetically pleasing. Have you considered recreating a "Slayer" style trigger (as seen on WDP A4s) for the Hyperframe? To me, they always looked amazing.

Jacob

[cledford]

Do they even still make the hyper frame for the mag? I'd like one, butthought that they were out of production. I see them used every so often in the classified section, but they are usually steeply priced and capped at 13bps. What gives with them? If they're out of production why make an aftermarket trigger? Were there that many made?

-Calvin

[luke]

Well, it looks good, though I agree that with a "hook" or curve on the bottom, it would really look at a lot more aesthetically pleasing.

Well anything is do-able, but the more machining, special jigs and a new design, = a bigger price. ;)

I could have these on the shelf in 2-3 days. :D



Have you considered recreating a "Slayer" style trigger (as seen on WDP A4s) for the Hyperframe? To me, they always looked amazing.

Can you give me a link to one?

[luke]

Do they even still make the hyper frame for the mag?

I don't think so.


I'd like one, but thought that they were out of production. I see them used every so often in the classified section, but they are usually steeply priced and capped at 13bps.

I think on average they go for about $150, and you can get an up-grade 20bps board.


What gives with them? If they're out of production why make an aftermarket trigger?

Why not? People still use the Hyperframe.

Plus, I can do large or small production runs, because I do all the work, nothing is contracted out. I don't have a CNC machine right now so there is no CAD involved. I dream it up, figure out how I'm going to cut it and go for it.

If 5 people want the trigger maybe I'll cut 10, if the other 5 sell, I might make more. I don’t have any constraints in regard the size of runs I do, I don’t have to sell 500 of them to make it worth while. :)



Were there that many made?

Not sure.

:cheers:

[OUTDATEDMAG]

thats a sick looking mag because of its simple look ..... im wondering if anyone knows where i can get a hyperframe for around $150 already looked around the classifieds here but all sold or sold with the marker

[luke]

Check with Sk8erMOG, he may have one...

[Gumbe]

he'll post a thread in the dealers forum.

take a hammer and small nail and knock the trigger pin out and you can pull the trigger out of the frame. put the new trigger in, line it up, and LIGHTLY hammer the pin back in. then adjust the set screws, and youre ready to go.

I mean for the switch adjustment....

[luke]

The switch adjustment is on the trigger. The 3 screws work together to remove all unnecessary travel in the trigger and switch. You don’t actually adjust the switch it’s self.


The 2 trigger stops adjust where the trigger lives and how much it can move forward and back.

The trigger can be adjusted forward, so far that the trigger will NOT contact the switch. The 3rd screw takes up that space. Adjust it in until it contacts and activates the switch.

[mark_1791]

Looks good, but could you custom make one with a slight bend in it, like the RPG Viperblade?

[Gumbe]

you could (thinking out loud) make a tirgger like the shocker trigger i like thouse ones...just a thought

[luke]

OK, my turn for a question. Do we want a $25 trigger or a $45 trigger? :ninja:

[Gumbe]

I want a $25 trigger...lol

[luke]

Gumbe, did you see my post about the "switch adjustment"?

[mark_1791]

OK, my turn for a question. Do we want a $25 trigger or a $45 trigger? :ninja:Depends on what features is included with each. If the $45 trigger has teh switch and is like a Viperblade, while the $25 has no switch and looks like the one pictured, then I would get the $45 trigger.

[luke]

Well neither trigger would come with a new switch. Either design would come 3 adjustment screws but that's all. ;)

[tdogreb]

Luke,
Keep it cheap, and easy to make.

[tyrion2323]

hey luke - i'll try to find the slayer trigger for you =)

[p8ntball365]

http://store1.yimg.com/I/shorepaintballsupplies_1845_555794

Slayer trigger. Google it!

[luke]

It's a nice trigger. But it's done on a CNC machine, I run a fully manual Mill. I could do something close to that with my Rotary Table, but it will be expensive to purchase.

[mark_1791]

How about you put a hook at the end, but without the little indent, like on the AGD blade. Kinda like the Fireblade trigger, but for a Hyperframe.

http://www.logicpaintball.com/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LP&Product_Code=FireBlade&Category_Code=LP

[luke]

My instinct tells me I couldn’t sell a $45-$50 Hyperframe trigger...

[Dirge]

Keep it cheap. You know we will buy it. And new grips whenever you get them out. hint hint

[Gumbe]

Gumbe, did you see my post about the "switch adjustment"?
yes i did...thanks

[luke]

And new grips whenever you get them out. hint hint

Which ones are you talking about?

[mark_1791]

My instinct tells me I couldn’t sell a $45-$50 Hyperframe trigger...Ok ok...but what will the $25 trigger be like?

[luke]

Similar to what I have posted at the top of this thread. 3 adjusting screws, I'll taper it a little more at the bottom, and I think I'll even taper it on the sides some. And they will come gloss black.

[mark_1791]

Sounds good. I'll want one. So the 3 adjustment screws basically remove the need for a switch mod?

[luke]

Sounds good. I'll want one. So the 3 adjustment screws basically remove the need for a switch mod?

Not sure, what kind of "switch mod" are guys doing?



BTW, I headed out to the shop to get started now. :D

[mark_1791]

50g switch?

[slade]

50g switch?
umm... not that i know anything about hyperframes, but a new trigger wouldnt really affect the switch. the adjustment screws adjust the slack, contact point and pull length. replacing the switch changes the weight of the trigger pull.

[warbeak2099]

I would love a HF with a 50g switch, this trigger, and a 20bps board. Wow, that'd rip. But alas I can never go back to *45. If I still was using *45 frames, I'd definately get a hyper just for this lol. Hope they sell like hotcakes Luke!

[mark_1791]

I would love a HF with a 50g switch, this trigger, and a 20bps board. Wow, that'd rip. But alas I can never go back to *45. If I still was using *45 frames, I'd definately get a hyper just for this lol. Hope they sell like hotcakes Luke!Thats exactly what I plan on getting! I'm getting my Hyperframe soon, once I get it I'm getting the 20 bps board, and soon after I'm gonna get a 50g switch mod (done by luke, if he'll do it for me), this trigger, and a set of luke's grips. Ohh...it's gonna be hot...

[luke]

I'm working on "drop in switches" but I don't think it will be by the time the triggers are done.

I could get them now, but you would need to send me the switch out of your gun so I would have the leads to solder on the new switch. I'm trying to find a place to buy the plugs for the board so it won't require you to send me yours. ;)

[Emert426]

Luke,

How much would it cost us to see an emag trigger design lol? :cheers:

I think you would be looking at people willing to spend $40.00+ (easily) for a more unique style, consider the alternative.... You can grind and polish the stock one, buy a blade, find an Lt-63 or 3 or u can keep it stock.... Can you hook us up someday?

[Sk8ermog]

I really love the blade on my hyperframe. Might be a good model to look at when designing the new trigger. I'm sure you can come up with a better look for it cause your just good like that. I did a mod on my on/off and broke part of the plastic housing so I had to melt it back together with a quick soder. Still works amazingly well, but I'll never get it back apart. I have to say that the mod makes a world of difference. here is a video of my 20bps hypermag with the on/off mod that Luke can do.
http://www.pbase.com/rgunn4/image/40617054/medium.jpg


NOISY CRICKET VIDEO 6.4 MEGS (http://www.rossgunniv.com/noisycricket.wmv)

(right click and save as from the above link)

[luke]

Humm, I don't know. I try do do stuff others not do....