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Chronobreak
05-30-2005, 04:50 PM
sorry for running tad late

Phantom Mag - E thrasher 2
<a href="LinkToImageHere"><img src="http://students.uww.edu/heldml05/emag%20dark.JPG" width="600" height="450"></img></a>


Flawlez Classic RT 2
<a href="LinkToImageHere"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/Classic_RT_002.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>


BIG EVIL
<a href="LinkToImageHere"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/IMG_1688_rs.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>


a tach-one
<a href="LinkToImageHere"><img src="http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86140&stc=1" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

AGDlover
<a href="LinkToImageHere"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/IMG_1274_rs.JPG" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

Duzzy
05-30-2005, 05:04 PM
I will delete this ASAP but could you resize the second one. It detracts from the gun when you have to scroll to see the entire thing.

t33kyboy
05-30-2005, 05:08 PM
which mag should i choose.. hmm

Chronobreak
05-30-2005, 05:10 PM
il resize it, gotta gimme some time to do those things guys GOSH!!(napolean)

--edit done

buzzboy
05-30-2005, 05:29 PM
Its eithere a tach one or the Flawlez z gripped mag. Decisions decisions. :confused:

cdacda13
05-30-2005, 05:38 PM
Flawlez Classic RT 2
I always loved classic RT body's

sisco87
05-30-2005, 06:35 PM
tough one...but i went with the Phantom Mag

master_alexander
05-30-2005, 06:43 PM
go z grips!

mine will be in when it is finished!

Maggot6
05-30-2005, 07:49 PM
Went for the RT, purely because it's not electro...Past that I'd say the e-thrasher

yakitori
05-30-2005, 07:53 PM
this month and last months GOTM has been total bias. It sucks. I cant believe that ONLY mags were selected. Even over the custom milled and anoed vikings and other pimptastic gats. Someone else needs to be doing this. If this continues, its obviously favoritism and bias. Im not voting, but if I did, it would be phantom mags emag.

MonsterMag
05-30-2005, 08:37 PM
this month and last months GOTM has been total bias. It sucks. I cant believe that ONLY mags were selected. Even over the custom milled and anoed vikings and other pimptastic gats. Someone else needs to be doing this. If this continues, its obviously favoritism and bias. Im not voting, but if I did, it would be phantom mags emag.

Dj did a better job :rolleyes:

Automaggot68
05-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Dj did a better job :rolleyes:
This isn't a pie eating contest. It's a gun of the month.

I dont like Chronobreak at all.

And he does a WAY better job.

BD_Paintball
05-30-2005, 08:47 PM
he does do a better job, but all mags you have to be kidding me. i dont know who whould vote for those over some of the other guns that were in there.

Automaggot68
05-30-2005, 08:49 PM
he does do a better job, but all mags you have to be kidding me. i dont know who whould vote for those over some of the other guns that were in there.


You do have to take in account for what forum you're on.
It'll always be biased.

BD_Paintball
05-30-2005, 08:53 PM
You do have to take in account for what forum you're on.
It'll always be biased.

then its really not gun of the month. its like mag of the month and maybe another kind of gun. it SHOULD be unbias if you are going to have a contest. its pointless if enter another kind of gun of mags are going to win when they should not.

AutomagRT1483
05-30-2005, 08:58 PM
Is there another view of AGD Lovers gat?

AGDlover
05-30-2005, 09:00 PM
<a href="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/25000/IMG_1449.JPG"> <img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/25000/IMG_1449_rs.JPG" width="640" height="480"> </img></a>
there ya go man

SpecialBlend2786
05-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Is there another view of AGD Lovers gat?

yeah, well, of the custom body/rail made by luke.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1896153&postcount=275

EDIT: damn , the man himself beat me to it

AutomagRT1483
05-30-2005, 09:03 PM
Thank you sir. ;)

hAppy
05-30-2005, 09:43 PM
Correction, DJ didn't do a better job, he did an okay job. And man I didn't know AGD was the only paintball company.

ICP
05-30-2005, 09:56 PM
The markers that make it into the final vote are chosen by the judges. If you don't like it, then next month sign up to be a judge. that's my .02 anyway.


I vote for the classic RT 2. nice looking marker.

WARPED1
05-30-2005, 10:02 PM
Too many mags, I abstain..................

LudavicoSoldier
05-30-2005, 10:09 PM
No Westy love? Booooo! :D I voted.

TDonovan
05-30-2005, 10:23 PM
I was surprized the nice anno on that cocker didn't get it in. I also liked the 2 vikings, the dark grey one looked nice. Then again this is AO and everyone loves warps, z grips, and insanely complicated guns. :D

Can't say anything for mine, because that'd be biased

Ordered a new body for it though, should look a lot nicer.

CrimsonGhost
05-31-2005, 05:18 AM
Lol,
Ok we BOOHOO when the GOTM has no prizes and runs late.
We BOOHOO when the marker we think should get in don't...though we aren't judges.
This entire GOTM thing seems to be an excuse for 4-5 people to get their prefferences publicly insulted every month rather than a cool little FUN contest that now actualy HAS prize with it ..not just PRIDE. (that and a $4.95 will get you a cup of coffee)

Don't like what is picked? BE A JUDGE.
I would be happy to give up my slot to another AOer.(Esp. one whos opinion on what looks good in a marker is better than mine ,cough cough :rolleyes: )
May be time for me to BOOHOO to someone else about "OH ITS BIASED!!".

Frankly , I am tired of looking at average set ups to find a handful of gems to nominate ever month.Then listening to people call me to the carpet over an OPINION based contest.

And to be blunt, the past 2-3 months offerings have been tough to find gems amongst the average.

So, this would seem to indicate all the GREAT markers out there with the custom milling and anno work (that are done and not works in progress) are in hiding or...do not exist;)..or I am SO jaded to ALL things paintball related that I am blind to all TRUELY beautiful markers.

Being a Galaxy class gun whore...I doubt the last line VERY much.:)

As for the Viking/Excal thing.
Yes, some are rare. Yes they are pretty anno. But they just dont jump out and grab ME.
Since I was a judge...my opinion counts in THIS MATTER.
To ME, they appear boxy and uninspiring regardless of the color.(Not saying I have not seen NICE Vikings/Excals, just saying the ones this month didn't grab me)AND TO BE CLEAR I AM NOT KNOCKING THE OWNER WITH THE VERT FRAMED ONE.
I am sure this is the best marker he has ever set up. I think its great that they went though all that extra work to get it the way they wanted.
Just did not do anything for ME.
That's me, thats THIS judges opinion.
Thats how I voted.

You can argue until your lips fall off ...your not changing my opinion on what marker I chose to be up on the GOTM.

I speak only for myself and not the other judges that voted .

:cheers:

MonsterMag
05-31-2005, 05:58 AM
Correction, DJ didn't do a better job, he did an okay job. And man I didn't know AGD was the only paintball company.
Isnt every Marker up for this month a Mag :confused:

BigEvil
05-31-2005, 07:21 AM
Go ahead everyone... keep *****ing

..and the GOTM contest will go the way of our sigs :mad:

Automaggot68
05-31-2005, 07:27 AM
I removed the text to save space

Quoted For Truth.

yakitori
05-31-2005, 08:11 AM
I agree. It should be called Mag of the month.

At least that way others will not waste their time putting their pride and joys up and get beat by a lesser gun. I just dont see why the judges have NO appreciation for any other gun besides a mag.

I dunno though, now that I get a better angle of adglovers emag, its close between that and phantoms.

peewee
05-31-2005, 08:26 AM
I like that its all Mags!!! :headbang: :shooting: :headbang: As it should be.........

Chronobreak
05-31-2005, 09:22 AM
well first of all we had a few nominees that were dq'd for various reasons.

just so happens this month was all mags.

btw i think that should have been the case having been AO and everything.

if your "timmy"(example) was on the timmy owners group for a gotm would it win? ifnot why should it here? :p

we also had 3 judges that didnt get votes into me so that diddnt help either.

if you can judge within 24 hrs of the gotm winning feel free to be a jugde

btw more than 17 prefferable and post count over atleast..50..maybe 100..

and im with big E, if all were gonna get is complaining for doing this..then its hardly worth doing...

WARPED1
05-31-2005, 10:31 AM
Go ahead everyone... keep *****ing

..and the GOTM contest will go the way of our sigs :mad:
Hope so.............or at least renamed "ugliest guin on earth of the month".

yakitori
05-31-2005, 11:40 AM
actually it JUST SO HAPPENS that this month AND last months was all mags. Even over some of the finest and rarest guns around.

If the case is that a timmy would win on a timmy owners group site, then the thread would prolly timmy of the month as they are w/ most other forums on other sites. That is why I think it should be called MAG of the month if only mags are going to be selected even over a more rare, nicer gat. Take RKjuniors viking for example. Custom milled and anodized, and that is prolly 1 in 100 or maybe even less. Its a rare find, and much better looking/shooting than any mags.

The judges fail to recognize that. That is my point.

So my recommendation is to rename it Mag of the month, instead of GOTM. It should be MOTM.

can'tthink of1
05-31-2005, 02:03 PM
If you really want a judge I'll do it Scott, I'm not baised towards any marker really.

Jackel411
05-31-2005, 03:13 PM
Okay.. as one of the judges... I voted for some of the other non mag based guns, But the way it works is the guns that have the most votes compiled from 5 judges pics of 5 get to be the final 5 GOTM contestants..

So really this final 5 could be picked from relistically 20 individual markers with five of the judges voting on 1 of the same guns.. Yes a little bit of personal taste is involved. But notice all the mags picked for this months list are actually slightly custom guns, Huh we do vote for most unique you know and not for nothing no matter how many times you stack it up an AKA marker that is " custom " milled by JMJ mean nothing to alot of people because its still a cookie cutter gun.

And to further say it again.... There were a bunch of guns DQ'ed for various reasons.. dont think your slick and enter GOTM on AO and try and sell your gun on PBN doesnt work.....

And remember folks.. this is " AUTOMAGS.ORG " not " Randomgun.org " so yes were all a little biased towards mags

JOE4959
05-31-2005, 03:17 PM
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MicroMiniMe
05-31-2005, 03:20 PM
I think its fine. The system is good. Its bound to happen a few times a year being all mags. Shut up, put up, or be a judge.

rkjunior303
05-31-2005, 03:22 PM
not for nothing no matter how many times you stack it up an AKA marker that is " custom " milled by JMJ mean nothing to alot of people because its still a cookie cutter gun.


like mags get any different? there are only so many body/rail combos out there. If a milling viking is still a cookie cutter viking, what makes a warped mag so unique? if anything, the pieces to build those are MUCH more common and readily available.

(for the record, it was milled by DC and it's 1 of maybe 10 03's custom milled by them - 1 of 1 with an evolve frame)

I appreciate everyone going to bat for my Viking but I really could care less. Arguing over the internet is retarded.

MadPSIence
05-31-2005, 03:28 PM
I totally love your gun AGDlover. If I were a judge it would have my vote.

WARPED1
05-31-2005, 03:52 PM
I think its fine. The system is good. Its bound to happen a few times a year being all mags. Shut up, put up, or be a judge.
Like they'd let someone not biased towards mags be a judge :rolleyes: !

MicroMiniMe
05-31-2005, 04:13 PM
Like they'd let someone not biased towards mags be a judge :rolleyes: !
Have you asked?
Even if you personally voted all Ions, another judge would have to vote for one as well to make GOTM voting for it.
Who knows what kind of final voting we would have with you(WARPED1), Magman007(Matrix) and Steelrat(AKA/Excal) as judges the same month. Throw in Weltman and it might get real interesting.

/just saying
:cheers:

CrimsonGhost
05-31-2005, 04:22 PM
At least that way others will not waste their time putting their pride and joys up and get beat by a lesser gun. I just dont see why the judges have NO appreciation for any other gun besides a mag.

.

I do not feel that any of the chosen markers are "LESSER" markers.
These are judges choices.

I also don't feel that I am biased towards mags...show me something I (ME ,NOT YOU, ME!!!) havent seen before or seen something like...I will likely put it in my vote.
I have seen countless Vikings around my area. Cut,chopped annoed PC etc.
Cockers are the same. I live in NOR CAL ,at one point this was cocker land. I HAVE SEEN ALOT OF COCKERS in MANY custom cuts and colors.
So to cockers...maybe my eyes are closed for the most part.
Some times I like the classic CLEAN mag look. sometimes there is an unspoken beauty in a clean single color anno WHATEVER marker.
But none of the "other" markers presented grabbed me THIS TIME.

Me, I Like mags, not LOVE, no worship,not hold sacred...I LIKE them.
There PLENTY of average if not downright uggo mags put up every month...and NONE of them are chosen.
But the owners go on using them.
None get bent out of shape about not being picked.
They go on with their lives, because STOPPING the world to rant because 5 people didn't think their marker was all that special( or agree with their CHOICES)...is DAMN SILLY.
So is putting a good thing in turmoil because of the same reasons .

To make it CLEAR
I like nearly ALL markers.
Heck, at one point or another I have probably owned a version or 2 of EVERY marker out there.

Some are beautiful.
Some are functional.
Some are just interesting.

On the day we picked , these are the choices I made.
Maybe if there were more of something and less of another...I may have voted different.
But, there wasn't, so I didn't

Like it has been said before.
Don't like it?
You be a judge.
You run the GOTM
You get sponsors to put up prizes.
You pay attention to the thread for GOTM to see who is violating what rule and what markers catch your eye.

Just do it folks.

Don't BOOHOO the choices we made then bascily DIS us for OUR personal likes and dislikes.

Your choices next time may not be to my liking ...but I will vote on whatever you chose to offer up.

:cheers:

yakitori
05-31-2005, 04:33 PM
this is a mag site. There is nothing interesting about warps, zgrips, and the like. Theyve been out for years. They are so unwanted, even AGD was giving them away w/ purchase of a warp body.

I used to think warps were interesting and unique about 2-3 years ago.

Ive just said that it should be Mag of the month. Even one of the judges above already said that this is a mag site, so of course they are biased toward mags.

Im kinda tired of a small minority group of ppl trying to 'win' the site back for Mags only. I LIKE mags too. I just am not biased toward ANY guns. And vikings are not cookie cutter guns. Thats shows how much the judges know about guns. There are just as many vikings (maybe less) than there are emags made. I think that they are more unique, and compared to most of the guns chosen here, that one and the PM5 were both nicer than most of the mags selected.

Please rename it Mag of the Month. Thats all Im asking.

CrimsonGhost
05-31-2005, 04:56 PM
Im kinda tired of a small minority group of ppl trying to 'win' the site back for Mags only. I LIKE mags too. I just am not biased toward ANY guns. And vikings are not cookie cutter guns. Thats shows how much the judges know about guns. There are just as many vikings (maybe less) than there are emags made. I think that they are more unique, and compared to most of the guns chosen here, that one and the PM5 were both nicer than most of the mags selected.

.
Again...this is what YOU THINK. Thats fine, I have no issue with that .
I happen to not agree with you. No problem there.
I have OWNED 2 Vikings. I like them. One was a 2nd hand DC model. I didnt think all that much of it. It was pretty. But not AWE inspiring 1 of a kind...because my buddy had one and so did another kid at one of the fields I played at.
To ME they aren't unique.

Questioning how much I know about markers because I do NOT agree with your opinion...there I have an issue.
Rarer than Emags...DUH!
But so what?
I have seen enough of them in my time where I don't become awe struck by them when I come across one.
IT'S OPINION FOLKS.
OPINION.
5 peoples OPINIONS AVERAGED TOGETHER to form a field of marker for you the loving AO public to choose from.
I am sorry not everyones choices were picked.
Lifes tough...get a net.


Just leave it be and vote for what has been chosen.

Trying to argue an opinion is just pointless in a case like this.

rkjunior303
05-31-2005, 05:04 PM
As I said earlier, I could care less that my viking wasn't picked. The ones that were picked look equally as nice, good for them.

BUT, being the "gun of the month" on automags.org -- I think AO should have a say in the voting.

Once the month closes, I think a new poll should go up for 1 week - showing every marker that has entered. It wouldn't take that long to copy/paste links to every image. Once *AO* picks the top 5, then I say leave it a group of 5 "guest" judges picked the month prior to decide amongst the 5 that automags.org picked from the entries.

Just my 2 cents to make it as fair and unbias as possible.

CrimsonGhost
05-31-2005, 05:07 PM
Rk- Hey man , thanks for showing class and grace through this thing.To bad we can't judge those from a pic. :)

BigEvil
05-31-2005, 07:18 PM
Guys - you all need to get over yourselves... there will be another contest in ..hmmm... like a day. THere is wayyyy to much BS with this. SO because everyone complaining that its all mags this month, then next month it will have to be all IONS or something. Then the cycle of BS will begin anew.

Scrap this mess and just forget it. I

yakitori
05-31-2005, 08:20 PM
I didnt quote you crimson. I read someone say that mags are more unique, so I made that statement. I dont question your knowledge of guns. I apologize if it came across that way. I didnt just make the statement because of the GOTM thread. The AGD purists that I am referring to have made comments in every pic post about other guns. Particularly the Ion. Im not trying to start an Ion/mag thing here. Im just making a point.

In many other posts it seems that a few ppl are having the attitude that "this is an AGD website....it should be for mags ONLY" yada yada yada. Well, its offensive to me cause I was a loyal AGD guy, but ive since moved on to other guns. I still like mags, and I dont feel that deserves ppl being an arse to me *not here, not now, but have been in general lately* just cause I dont have a mag now. When I had my Karta emag.....it was all "OOOh yak, your mag is sooooo nice.....can I kiss your feet some".....now its "shutup yak, you own an Ion and you have no place here cause this is a mag site" :rolleyes: I am beggining to see a side of the AO family that I didnt notice when I was a mag owner. They are turning out to be just like most other groups of a certain gun "family". They bash most stuff not related to AGD, and they consider ppl that dont currently own a mag as "not having a clue about mags"

I now see that side of the AO family, and Im disappointed. I guess thats my point of view. on it.

I still like MOST ppl on AO.

I too agree that GOTM threads should be judged by ALL. Just make a poll. EVERYONE votes. The highest percentages will be your top 5. That helps w/ removing bias on the judges behalf because they are AGD loyalists.

Chronobreak
05-31-2005, 08:45 PM
guess we could let everyone vote on every gun..

however it is alot mroe work than you know...

copying links then isnerting php code and doing the poll setup

takes a good hr or more

not to mention all the whining that i get for a thank you

also yak, sounds like your displeasure is with a few individuals on AO that arent even judges.

most, ifnot all of the judges own or have owned a plethora of guns, including cockers,mags bushies, blah blah blah, vikings too? not sure

fact is most ifnot all of us are more than qualified to pick the best guns unbiased, but the "best" gun is different to everyone

might also want to re-read what the judging criteria is.

as for us only voting mags..purely coincidence and since like 90%+ are mags i dont think we had much of a choice.

if you have an ion your not less important as a member...however stil relaise this forum is for mag owners group...but your right we shouldnt be gun discriminatory, and i dont think we are.

as i have said atleast half a dozen times now, if anyonwe with over 100+ or so post over 17 and seems knowledgeable(and can reply withi 24hrs for judging) they may judge

i had 7 judges thins month and only recived 4 judge votes and each judge didnt pick all 5 guns.

we had about 12 guns that had one vote(so almsot each gun got one vote) and the top 5 all had like 2 and one had 3 votes.

:sleeping:

the last gotm fell apart becuase judges were.. :tard: :ninja:

i would hardly consider any of the judges"agd loyalist" we know what a good gun is and whta has had alot of work and time into it and what hasnt....with that having been said...wellt ry things diff this month maybe, if we do dont :cuss: and get over it.

i went as long as i could without replying to the stupid" judges suck" or "why wasnt so and so picked"

the last voting system was by far inferior(3 categories voted upon by like 10 judges with no AO vote at all)

seems like some people will always find soemthing to complain about :sleeping:

yakitori
05-31-2005, 09:16 PM
guess we could let everyone vote on every gun..

however it is alot mroe work than you know...

copying links then isnerting php code and doing the poll setup

takes a good hr or more

not to mention all the whining that i get for a thank you

also yak, sounds like your displeasure is with a few individuals on AO that arent even judges.

most, ifnot all of the judges own or have owned a plethora of guns, including cockers,mags bushies, blah blah blah, vikings too? not sure

fact is most ifnot all of us are more than qualified to pick the best guns unbiased, but the "best" gun is different to everyone

might also want to re-read what the judging criteria is.

as for us only voting mags..purely coincidence and since like 90%+ are mags i dont think we had much of a choice.

if you have an ion your not less important as a member...however stil relaise this forum is for mag owners group...but your right we shouldnt be gun discriminatory, and i dont think we are.

as i have said atleast half a dozen times now, if anyonwe with over 100+ or so post over 17 and seems knowledgeable(and can reply withi 24hrs for judging) they may judge

i had 7 judges thins month and only recived 4 judge votes and each judge didnt pick all 5 guns.

we had about 12 guns that had one vote(so almsot each gun got one vote) and the top 5 all had like 2 and one had 3 votes.

:sleeping:

the last gotm fell apart becuase judges were.. :tard: :ninja:

i would hardly consider any of the judges"agd loyalist" we know what a good gun is and whta has had alot of work and time into it and what hasnt....with that having been said...wellt ry things diff this month maybe, if we do dont :cuss: and get over it.

i went as long as i could without replying to the stupid" judges suck" or "why wasnt so and so picked"

the last voting system was by far inferior(3 categories voted upon by like 10 judges with no AO vote at all)

seems like some people will always find soemthing to complain about :sleeping:

Cool. I dont mean for the ppl that arent judgemental on what others shoot to think my comments are directed at them. I make comments sometimes, and I expect the ppl that ARE like the person I describe them as to know I was talking to THEM. I dont make blanket statements that apply to all. Sometimes I just assume they will know who I am talking to. :D.

As for the judging contest. You can start the GOTM thread as a Poll w/ 0 entries. As ppl enter thier pics, you can edit the poll to include thier gun. It can be in the same order as the ppl that posted pics for their entry. If the poll has a limit of 10, then another one can be started as GOTM part 2. Usually there arent a ton of entries. They can be limited to ONE entry per member. At the deadline the GOTM threads will no longer be taking entries. The poll will display each entry. there will be one week after the end date for everyone to vote. The Percentages will give the top 5. Thats it. NO FINALS. That will limit having to go through the trouble of resizing pics, and starting a whole new thread w/ 5 finalists. There are none. The higest percentages win. Thats it, no more voting.

MicroMiniMe
05-31-2005, 09:24 PM
Well then you have to validate votes. Make sure none are bogus users multiple account junk. Judges just seems more official.

Chronobreak
05-31-2005, 09:59 PM
Well then you have to validate votes. Make sure none are bogus users multiple account junk. Judges just seems more official.


gues the reply button is the quote button now :confused:

when did that change..or am i losing it?

that and then some people wil complain there wasnt =time to vote on all entries

making a thread every 10 post, and keeping them upped and blah balh confusin blah blah

not happening blah blah

rkjunior303
05-31-2005, 10:31 PM
gues the reply button is the quote button now :confused:

when did that change..or am i losing it?

that and then some people wil complain there wasnt =time to vote on all entries

making a thread every 10 post, and keeping them upped and blah balh confusin blah blah

not happening blah blah


huh?

A week is more than plenty of time to vote.

Making a thread and keeping them upped? What are you talking about?

Chronobreak
05-31-2005, 10:37 PM
huh?

A week is more than plenty of time to vote.

Making a thread and keeping them upped? What are you talking about?


the way yak would liek gotm ran

we would add to a thread..when it has 10 entires we make another thrad to vote

2-4 threads is tooo much for gotm(and the mods wont have it either trust me)

this would be mass confusion,clutter, and too hard to oversee for ANYONE!

yakitori
05-31-2005, 10:51 PM
I hardly see anymore than 20 or so guns for GOTM. That is why I said ONE entry per member. PPl cant be putting up 3 of their guns. They have pick the one they feel will have the best chance.

And once the GOTM thread has ended as for entries, the voting begins. Everyone will have the same amount of time as far as voting goes. Its a lot easier than PMing judges, then some judges dont follow thru. Then only 3 judges vote for the top 5. I think giving everyone a week to select who they want is better than keeping 5 judges in the loop. You cant depend on judges, but you can depend on votes.

And you are already making 2 threads anyway. First the entries, then the judging the top 5. Why not have GOTM part 1 and 2. I only recommended 10 entries because I dont know how many the limit is on the poll options. It may be 15. In that case 2 threads would cover 30 guns. That should be easier than what is being done now. And most of all, EVERYONEs opinion counts.

As for multiple accounts. Thats stupid. Anyone that will go through the trouble to make multiple accounts just to win GOTM will be obvious. I dont see an Ion getting 100 votes over any of the other guns. Cheating is obvious. And it leads to a disqualification. Another rule would be that nobody can solicit votes on other sites. Im sure there are enough ppl here that visit other sites to know if something like that is going on. Then they will come forward. ANY USER can click on the poll, and find out WHO voted for what. IF there is a Large number of votes from ppl that have only one post, or registered that day. The gun will be excluded on grounds of cheating. There is just no way that 20 new users are going to vote for so and so's avg. gun. And it doesnt take one person to find out if its happening. I can do it, you can do it.....ANY user can find out who voted for what. That is one great feature of the poll options. Click on the percentages, it gives the usernames of the gun they voted under. Finding cheaters will be easy.

I still think it is most unbiased, fair way to conduct it.

But, you the ppl "still" insist on there being 5 judges that pick guns out of the entries, then so be it.

:cheers:

FlawleZ
06-01-2005, 01:22 AM
Blah. The arguing is senseless guys. Let's just make suggestions and listen to other's opinions without being too harsh or taking anything personal. And let's just leave it at that.

On another note, I was just going to thank everyone who voted for my Classic RT. I love that gun to death and I'm glad that others see it as an attractive gun as I do.

Looks like you're going to have me beat Phantom. Congrats! You have a nice E-Mag.

Jakedubbleya
06-01-2005, 02:26 AM
you guys SERIOUSLY want to call it mag of the month? that would blow. Itd be retarded without things like custom pumps and stuff. So what if they pick mags, they picked mags. Dont make it retarded and take away all chances of voting for something cool and original.

Phantom_Mag
06-01-2005, 05:31 AM
LOL, sorry for posting, But i just lost a ton of respect for Yak. Your arguements are weak and repetative. Need i say more..i shall not. Thanks for the Votes.

fullofpaint
06-01-2005, 06:56 AM
I think my 98c should have made it onto the list....... j/k :)

yakitori
06-01-2005, 08:57 AM
LOL, sorry for posting, But i just lost a ton of respect for Yak. Your arguements are weak and repetative. Need i say more..i shall not. Thanks for the Votes.

whatever. I even said that yours was the nicest out of the guns selected.

yakitori
06-01-2005, 09:15 AM
actually I just noticed that the max limit is 99 for poll options. That means only 1 thread. No finalists. Everyone just votes. If its gonna be that hard for others to do it, I will do it.

If only the Poll can be edited, it will work.

Target Practice
06-01-2005, 09:31 AM
blah blah blah

And they say I whine.

God forbid we have MAGS for GOTM. Have guns that weren't mags won in the past? Of course they have. Jeez, let the chips fall where they may already. Damn.

WARPED1
06-01-2005, 11:28 AM
Dont make it retarded and take away all chances of voting for something cool and original.
If it's not a mag, it doesn't have a chance..............

Jackel411
06-01-2005, 12:41 PM
Warped did you even look at the entries for GOTM last month?? Aside from a handfull of guns all of them were mags.. as a judge Im going to vote for what interests me the most.. what I would like to see win irregardless of what marker brand it is. It just so happens that 5 people's top votes came out to be all mags...

Jeeze.. and to further make you feel newbish... I own 1 mag to I prefer it over my other markers no.. its to paint finicky and with LI's strong showing of golf balls sized and shaped paint I tend to use a gun that doesnt have a bolt that will freak out when it incounters a ball it can shove into the barrel..

Next month in an act of defiance Im going to vote for a list of guns that contains no mags.. and then let you guys whine some more..

CrimsonGhost
06-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Hehe , Wish we had as many pages of contestants markers as we do talking about GOTM.

Something to think about.;)

:cheers:

WARPED1
06-01-2005, 02:38 PM
That would work, but how the hell did that DC milled Viking not make it?! Are the judges on crack?!

CrimsonGhost
06-01-2005, 02:43 PM
That would work, but how the hell did that DC milled Viking not make it?! Are the judges on crack?!

Where the hell is the "Bang head on wall in frustration because people do not seem to get what the judges have said" button?

Let me say this one more time.

OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

Warp- Come on bud, let it GO. I usualy agree with what you say (most things anyway) but...brother...You are either not getting it on purpose and just trying to burn peoples butts for no reason OR ...well...there is no or...You are NOT an idiot.

So...just let it be .

:cheers:

yakitori
06-01-2005, 03:07 PM
ya guys just let it go. Let the guys have their little GOTM contest so they can feel great about thier mag. Im not whining, Im offering suggestions on how it should be done. I dont even think you read through target.

It apparent the judges like warps and mags. Last months did too. And so will Junes, and Julys prolly. You guys are on a roll.

Chronobreak
06-01-2005, 03:35 PM
ya guys just let it go. Let the guys have their little GOTM contest so they can feel great about thier mag. Im not whining, Im offering suggestions on how it should be done. I dont even think you read through target.

It apparent the judges like warps and mags. Last months did too. And so will Junes, and Julys prolly. You guys are on a roll.

1.Dryden - 3 *

http://www.bininger.com/images/20050305-002_small.jpg

2.phantomhitman 2 *
http://members.toast.net/joetackett/photos/devilmag/P3080017_SMALL.JPG

3.Duzzys 2 *
<a href="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/20000/Picture_094.jpg"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/20000/Picture_094.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

4.Lucavicosoldier2 *
http://idisk.mac.com/dgreening/Public/GOTMRipper2.jpg

5.Matmc89 2
http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=84868&stc=1



copied from march gotm


be quiet and let it go.

it qwas just chance this month turned out how it did.

also here is the way the judging is commenced to further show you dont know what your talking about.

5 judges vote from all of the guns ona score 1/5

5=best 1=good

more points=better

the top 5 guns that have the most points are voted upon by AO.

very simple, and it works

this month i had 3 judges that diddnt vote as well as all the judges that did diddnt all pick 5 guns. because they diddnt find some guns worth voting for.

yak, i dont mind your input just stop acting like the gotm is "fixed" or something as i can assure you that it isnt.

btw go look at the other gotm, not one has been all mags til now :tard:

think anothe ao'er is going on ignore :argh:


look i dont see any warps do you? :cool:

viking, mags,cocker.... :sleeping:

Target Practice
06-01-2005, 05:36 PM
Chronobreak, delete some of your PMs. I gotz to sendz youz something.

Ken
06-01-2005, 05:37 PM
I think it's an outrage that people still circlejerk mags, this is a GOTM contest, not a mag of the month contest. I own a friggin mag and I'm sick of this.

Chronobreak
06-01-2005, 05:58 PM
Chronobreak, delete some of your PMs. I gotz to sendz youz something.

done, ive gotten a few more than expected ltely :p

ken, have you read anything in this thread? :mad:

yakitori
06-01-2005, 08:07 PM
glad Im going on your ignore list cause I just said let it go, and you reply w/ be quiet and let it go? wtf? I just said let you have your GOTM contest so ppl can feel good about their mags. Whats wrong w/ that. You need to either read things how they are meant to be read or dont reply. I never said ALL the other GOTMs were mags. Just last month and this month. Why are you guys having so much trouble with it? I let it go, so why cant you guys? Ive made my suggestions. Shut up or suck it.

Chronobreak
06-01-2005, 08:36 PM
yakity yak dont talk back :rolleyes:

:clap:
1.http://premium1.uploadit.org/rrfireblade/Paintball/PneuMagic-1.jpg
2.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/E-Bum/ChordMag2.jpg
3.http://premium1.uploadit.org/docZox//doorbustera.jpg
4.http://www.automags.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=85094&stc=1
5.http://www.pbase.com/rgunn4/image/40617043/large.jpg

thanks to the judges and all that entered :cheers:


--edit taken from gotm april
i *the links so the pics didnt show

not all mags either

i dont see any warps either :eek: :sleeping:

im not trying to be rude, just show you the light

yakitori
06-01-2005, 08:46 PM
I would go through the trouble of posting links to the April gotm choices that lead to those 5 selections, but it would only prove that the judging is.....well....

and I apologize, I was wrong. It wasnt ALL mags. Just 3 of 5, and the other two were a phantom, and a custom shotgun looking gun.

There were a lot better guns than that.

If its what you want to hear. You win. Just shut up already. Enough of us know that the judging is not a good way to go about it. Quite frankly they are incompetent.

:cheers:

FlawleZ
06-02-2005, 02:21 PM
I would go through the trouble of posting links to the April gotm choices that lead to those 5 selections, but it would only prove that the judging is.....well....

and I apologize, I was wrong. It wasnt ALL mags. Just 3 of 5, and the other two were a phantom, and a custom shotgun looking gun.

There were a lot better guns than that.

If its what you want to hear. You win. Just shut up already. Enough of us know that the judging is not a good way to go about it. Quite frankly they are incompetent.

:cheers:

You have 749 posts on a forum dedicated to the ownership and commraderie of the AGD Automag and you STILL haven't figured out that MOST people on this website might be a LITTLE biased? This isn't pbnation. Just because YOU think there should have been a better selection has ne bearing whether or not the contest was "fair."


It apparent the judges like warps and mags.

Are you serious? What follows the www. in your url bar?

BigEvil
06-02-2005, 02:46 PM
Are you serious? What follows the www. in your url bar?


That was a good one.

ICP
06-02-2005, 04:54 PM
I say that we should have a flavor of the month contenst, so the people that don't like this contest can be happy too.

Phantom_Mag
06-03-2005, 11:06 PM
Thanks all for your support, i honestly didnt see this coming.
Thanks Again,
PHANTOM

ps. I wonder whats to come of this....??? :D :rolleyes: