Zap ripping off ICD Guns and WDP guns...

[Southparkrocks]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1053809&perpage=21&highlight=&pagenumber=1

http://www.zappaintball.com/catalog/ZAP_2005_Retail_Web.pdf

Theres a pic of a freestyle like gun and an angel like gun

http://cleedo.com/fsclone.gif

[player4]

Shappins....

[Goldie D Pimp]

Yeah, then there's the Vapor line of products!!!

The Logo's even look very similar!

[SpecialBlend2786]

For the freestyle looking one it says that it is an "entry level electronic paintball marker." I doubt that its internals are like the Freestyle. The Angel looking one however....

[cdacda13]

*stiff stiff* lawsuit

[Automaggot68]

YOu know you're doing something right when the features on your High end knock off include...
RUBBER GRIPS
DOUBLE TRIGGER
BUTTONS THAT YOU PUSh
...and conviently bringing the tournement scene to retail.

[Target Practice]

*stiff stiff* lawsuit

*cough* Licensing, perhaps? *cough*

[SCpoloRicker]

I don't know TP, I thought WDP played their hand pretty close. I hadn't heard of them liscencing anything before. Could be wrong, of course.

[Jaan]

Wow, NEW no drop forward. Just like the pros :rofl:

I guess all my guns are in style now since I've never used a drop forward. I must have been ahead of my time.

[Cakeslob]

zap takes good gun designes and makes them worse and unreliable

[Automaggot68]

zap takes good gun designes and makes them worse and unreliable


Coming from someone as reliable as you, I totally believe it.

[slade]

*cough* Licensing, perhaps? *cough*
read the pbn thread. someone from ICD comments.

[Automaggot68]

read the pbn thread. someone from ICD comments.
Jesus, you couldn't link us to it? I'm wading through all that trash. Gads.

[SCpoloRicker]

read the pbn thread. someone from ICD comments.

Link?

/doesn't feel like digging
//lazy

[Automaggot68]

Link?

/doesn't feel like digging
//lazy

After I found it, the post wasn't worth reading. Dont worry about it.

--Editted after correction From TribalMan

[tribalman]

After I found it, the post was worth reading. Dont worry about it.

if it's worth reading, why didn't you link? unless you meant "not worth reading".

it's like saying. "something is wrong with ur gear. but don't worry about it."

*edit to below post*
ok, not sure if you meant to leave it out or not. nice to know what you actually meant.

[Automaggot68]

if it's worth reading, why didn't you link? unless you meant "not worth reading".

it's like saying. "something is wrong with ur gear. but don't worry about it."

Ahh didn'teven see that I had left it out.
Naw, I meant 'Ntt worth reading'

Sorry about that.

To sum it up, it was just Like, Our stuff is made in the U.S., quality, etc'

[Southparkrocks]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Steg
If I helped at all Hawk then Im happy.

Ok well I spoke with Zap today. According to the guy I spoke with, Zap is planning on releasing a FreeStyle clone in approx. 3-4 months. The gun is supposed to have ACE (Im not gonna call it PDS :dodgy: ) and have internals the same (not sure how "same" exactly) as the FS. The price point for the marker he said would be roughly 3 to 400 dollars. This price point was set due to the Ions price of 300 dollars.

The Angel clone he said was dead in the water as were a few other things in the catalog.

It is my opinion that Zap will have a flop at this price range and design but what do I know? Would you buy a gen 1 fs clone for 300 bucks? I wouldnt...

Anyway the guy was very nice on the phone but it still seems sooo slimy to do this. It was funny because the level of uncomfort was palpable when I stated that "the design looked just like a fs and whats with the Angel clone?"

All of this and the guy really didnt seem to know his product line at all and had a lot of trouble locating the online catalog. :dodgy:

Im hoping that word of this thread (or a phone call from ICD) will stop this. Although he claimed that he was "looking at a prototype sitting on his partners desk" it may not be too late for Zap to rethink this move.