Body armor in action (vid)

[Jack & Coke]

Check out this video clip:

http://images.military.com/Video/050713_SniperShot.wmv


Bad guy snipers (AIF) try to pick off a U.S. soldier on patrol...
Soldier take the shot center mass and gets knocked down...
Bad guys start chanting Allah Akbar (God is Great!) in celebration...
Soldier stands up and takes cover...
Body Armor... Priceless! :hail:

[stondroopy]

HOLY CRAP! would have been nice to see some return fire though :D

[Steelrat]

What you don't see in the video is the US soldier locating the snipers (hiddin in a vehicle DC sniper style) then leading a patrol of US soldiers to them. The US patrol wounded one, and then chased down and captured both of them. The soldier who had been shot was a medic, and he actually ended up treating the wounded sniper who had shot him.

The gun was a Dragonov sniper rifle, which fires a pretty substantial round, and it was fired from about 90 yards away. That interceptor armor is pretty amazing stuff.

[Automaggot68]

The gun was a Dragonov sniper rifle, which fires a pretty substantial round, and it was fired from about 90 yards away.


Yeah, 7.62mm. I love those things.

[Jaan]

Yeah, 7.62mm. I love those things.I think it's funny that 7.62 mm is really just a .30 caliber bullet. Of course, the Russians never copied anyone else ...

[quik]

Awesome.

GO AMERICA.

[teufelhunden]

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-976420.php
http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/at_sniper071505.pdf

for the story.

[MaChu]

Just saw this on another forum. Yeah the snipers for a second had an expression of "WTF? :eek:"

[SCpoloRicker]

Kai pretty poor attempt to troll.

Thats pretty crazy. 90 yards and 7.62, center mass? Up and clearing in a sec or two?

Wow.

[Steelrat]

Thats adrenaline for you. He goes down like a bag of rocks, adrenaline kicks in, and he literally jumps up and starts scanning. Amazing. Also nice to see the muscle memory these guys have, weapon was up and he was looking for targets.

[PsychoBaller]

Wow.... I'm impressed. Both with the Armor for one thing... and as said before, the soldier's own skillz under circumstances.

USA Rulz

[Army]

I think it's funny that 7.62 mm is really just a .30 caliber bullet. Of course, the Russians never copied anyone else ...

Copied nobody. The 7.62X54R has been in Russian/Soviet/Russian military use for over 114 years.

The US military adopted it's first .30 in 1903, the second in 1906, and the third in 1957.

[slateman]

Um . . . . wasn't there complaints earlier in the year that soldiers didn't have enough body armor? If you can stop a 7.62 round from 90 yards, WTH are the whining about?

[SoldierzHonor]

Um . . . . wasn't there complaints earlier in the year that soldiers didn't have enough body armor? If you can stop a 7.62 round from 90 yards, WTH are the whining about?

Ask that to the young men who have returned home with partial arms and legs. There have been more than just plates added to the interceptor armor. There is now added dorsal and shoulder protection, throat protection and groin protection. Next time please try not to be so rude asking a question such as this. Evidently, you havent been on the recieving end of an IED or other possible hazard like them. Some of us have been hit by them and praise our added protection.

[Steelrat]

Um . . . . wasn't there complaints earlier in the year that soldiers didn't have enough body armor? If you can stop a 7.62 round from 90 yards, WTH are the whining about?

Its poor form to accuse soldiers in combat of "whining." Not everyone has been getting the interceptor armor, and that led to some of the very valid complaining. Local PDs in the San Francisco area were collecting used body armor to equip national guard units going over. While nice, its not even close to the interceptor armor, which can take much larger rounds, and gives much more thorough protection against frag.

I will not be 100% happy with the body armor until we have zero casualties. Until then, its nice to know that our guys have the best stuff out there. Who would of though that our troops would be able to get hit at 90 yards with a 7.62X41 center of mass and survive? Thats just amazing.

[SCpoloRicker]

Not to touch on political toes; but the survivability of a given soldier is the highest its ever been.

/Colin Powell school of warfare
//'91

[Jack & Coke]

...wasn't there complaints earlier in the year that soldiers didn't have enough body armor?



"earlier" ? ...nothing has changed.

Many, many soldiers still lack proper armor (body and vehicle) and are not as fortunate as the dude in the video in the first post.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/11/60minutes/main708179.shtml

:(

[Army]

J&C..MUCH has changed, except your ignorance of the situation.

All Soldiers deployed to Iraq since early last year have been issued new impact resistant vests, and SAPI plate inserts. While not perfect (no body armor available is), it is the best currently available for US Soldiers. New additions to the body armor are what SoldierzHonor has pointed out.

Vehicle armor is evolving. All wheeled vehicles are now either being re-fitted with armor kits, or have been factory built and sent to Iraq...and have been since late 2003. We just received 110 HETs at work, because it is cheaper to send these "soft" trucks home, and replace them with hardened trucks that will protect their drivers better, rather than re-fit them in-country.

Been there, done that, STILL HAVE THE BODY ARMOR!

Not to mention, your CBS link is about a reporters interviews of a YEAR ago.

[Jack & Coke]

J&C..MUCH has changed



really? much?

From last I read (2005 articles), there still is a "lack of body/vehicle armor" problem...
(although not as large, nor as ridiculous as 2 years ago...)

http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon.salon/media/2004/12/gps1_q300.mov
http://slate.msn.com/id/2095705/
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30D14FE39550C768EDDAD0894DD4044 82&incamp=archive:search
http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=52972
http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screenKey=issues&htmlId=1537
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050307-armor-missteps.htm
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-832873.php





All Soldiers...
The best currently available...
All wheeled vehicles...




really? "All"? "best"?

I honestly have my doubts about this claim.

I know there have been thousands of units of body and vehicle armor deployed to our occupying force in Iraq since this big "lack of armor fiasco/complaint" was exposed to the public a couple years ago by our troops.

When I say "no change", I'm exaggerating to get my point across (yes I'm guilty): There is still a "lack of body/vehicle armor" problem.

The degree of which can be debated, whether you're trying to portray the image that:

"...nothing is wrong, move a long, everything is ok now..."

or

"...hey, we still have some problems here! Let's fix it!"

[Steelrat]

I'm pretty sure the stuff they are wearing IS the best body armor out there.

[fire1811]

very nice

[BigEvil]

IMO, a soldier can NEVER have enough armor when in combat. Im sure that the equipment that is in country now has evolved by leaps and bounds from what it was at the start of the war. (Army can correct me if I am wrong about that)


Im glad to see the medic who got hit is ok. I think we should pay attentoin to how our men captured the snipers and didnt kill them. But then again, that is the difference between us and the rest of the world. I just hope that compasion like that doesnt lead to our demise.

[SoldierzHonor]

The question on the armor....we recieved our armor before we left the states. Proof the armor does what its supposed to is that the soldier's wasnt penetrated. I only went to the army times link, it was posted in may of 05. However, the final results were from 04. The person who stated a soldier can never have enough armor is correct. Even if you were wearing better armor than is currently ther best, a VBIED loaded with 8 - 10 artillery rounds makes one heck of a boom. Even if I was able to show one of our trucks that was hit, I wouldnt. 1 of the 3 soldiers was killed. One even escaped without injury. The other was wounded but he was a few feet from a VBIED when it went off and still survived. If you seen the truck, you'd ask yourself how in the world did any of them survive. The armor performed perfectly. There were other events that happened being the reason the young man died. Another soldier here was killed but ONLY from shrapnel from a blast that was extremely lucky on the insurgents behalf. Due to the new criteria, it wont happen again. The armor again, even being what we call hillbilly armor, performed as it should. New criteria for driving around of base is causing more vehicles to need more armor. A vehicle we used extensively is now considered unsafe due to the new criteria for safety. It has all the armor on the sides and such but is waiting for cab top armor. We have a yard full of new fielded armored humvees waiting for a home on our FOB. I can show links to improvements they are looking at fielding such as full armor for turret gunners. It even has a climate control onboard to keep the suit at 70 degrees and face shields. The CROWS system is even currently being used in Iraq. It takes a gunner out of the turret and uses a remote gun turret. Its not like they are hanging us out to dry. Even our eyewear is dictated in what we wear.

[Jack & Coke]

..hillbilly armor..



http://images.optruth.org/images/FE/chain154siteType6/site105/client/hillbillyarmor.JPG