Dave
12-08-2001, 05:53 PM
I had to take my superbolt off cause it was choppin' my brittle paint, and so I degassed the gun, then un-did the quick-diconnect to release any pressure still left in the actual gun...so I undo the field strip screw, and pull the trigger, and there is still some air left...then the valve just freezes. Something is stuck. I try to move it, then the groove pin gets out of place, I try to genty move the valve back in line with the groove. No good, so then I push it back a little harder...I stuggle with it for a few minutes, and finally it slips out. Then I notice out of the corner of my eye, a little something come out as I take the valve out. I pick it up....and it looks like a super tiny little pin. Then I look at my on/off pin, and half of it is missing. My on off pin was snapped in half.
The on/off pin has a beefy part at the bottom, but the main part of it is only about 1/16th of an inch thick. I showed it to my dad, who is a metal worker, and he looked at the breaking point and said it was faulty. The pin must have been heated to strenthen it, but the little part got heated much more than the beefy part on the end, resulting in a weakened structure. I believe it was weakened, because in no way did I crank on the valve to get it off...all I did was try moving the valve around to get it unstuck...the pin actually broke very easily. The actual break surface looks like a pencil lead snapped clean in half. Then I had to get another one, and it cost me $17.95 to replace that little pin.
For some reason, I NEVER had any problem with the on/off pin from my standard automag. It never came shooting out, never got the valve stuck, and never broke. This has happened before to me with the Retro Valve on/off, and I had to loosen the frame off the rail by loosening the main allen nut in front of the trigger. Rob told me that I would need to do this, but this basically disables the whole field strip idea, since I would have to undo everything just to get the valve unstuck. I am wondering why AGD didn't make the thickness of the on/off pin of the RT the same thickness of the standard on/off, as it is much more durable. Is there any way to switch on/off assemblies or pins between the two? I don't want to have to keep having to undo my whole gun every time I want to get the valve out, and I definitely don't want to have to break any more pins, as it would be very costly. Please help AGD!
Has anyone had any other kind of troubles with this before?
-Dave
The on/off pin has a beefy part at the bottom, but the main part of it is only about 1/16th of an inch thick. I showed it to my dad, who is a metal worker, and he looked at the breaking point and said it was faulty. The pin must have been heated to strenthen it, but the little part got heated much more than the beefy part on the end, resulting in a weakened structure. I believe it was weakened, because in no way did I crank on the valve to get it off...all I did was try moving the valve around to get it unstuck...the pin actually broke very easily. The actual break surface looks like a pencil lead snapped clean in half. Then I had to get another one, and it cost me $17.95 to replace that little pin.
For some reason, I NEVER had any problem with the on/off pin from my standard automag. It never came shooting out, never got the valve stuck, and never broke. This has happened before to me with the Retro Valve on/off, and I had to loosen the frame off the rail by loosening the main allen nut in front of the trigger. Rob told me that I would need to do this, but this basically disables the whole field strip idea, since I would have to undo everything just to get the valve unstuck. I am wondering why AGD didn't make the thickness of the on/off pin of the RT the same thickness of the standard on/off, as it is much more durable. Is there any way to switch on/off assemblies or pins between the two? I don't want to have to keep having to undo my whole gun every time I want to get the valve out, and I definitely don't want to have to break any more pins, as it would be very costly. Please help AGD!
Has anyone had any other kind of troubles with this before?
-Dave