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MoeMag
02-10-2006, 02:33 PM
What is the “ultimate mechanical mag”?

I have been working on my mag for a few years now, and I consider my mag to be about as close to being the “ultimate mechanical mag” as one can get. My goal is to increase the functionality of the gun. I know it is not the lightest or best-looking mag but it is about as fast as one can get.

EDIT: posted a new pic below...

What is anyone’s thoughts regarding the fabled “ultimate mechanical mag”

Lohman446
02-10-2006, 02:39 PM
Mine:

Classic rail
Stainless steel RT valve
No-rise stainless steel center feed body
Intelliframe.

Light? No. Throw in my bag and work anytime I pull it out... yes

warbeak2099
02-10-2006, 02:46 PM
I'd say get the rail ULE'd and buy a nice barrel kit. Boom, you're done. Not much other function upgrades you can get after that.

MoeMag
02-10-2006, 03:12 PM
I'd say get the rail ULE'd and buy a nice barrel kit. Boom, you're done. Not much other function upgrades you can get after that.

regarding the barrel...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/MoeRoark/DSCF0005.jpg
16 in SS Freak

PnueMagger
02-10-2006, 03:18 PM
1) Go pnuematic conversion on a vert frame with a ULT installed.
2) ULE shadow rail,
3) Deadlywind whisper barrel (Takes freak inserts I believe)
4) Deadlywind CF front grip.

That would lightest mech around for sure with the best trigger.
Yours is very nice also. One of the best mechs around! :cheers:

Though, the ulitmate mech mag would have to be colin's hAir trigger Mag.

nate2k191
02-10-2006, 03:46 PM
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2163/paintfrontcropsmall4ow.jpg

could use a new body rail... but it owns

MoeMag
02-10-2006, 04:00 PM
As soon as colin makes his hAir trigger avalible I will be the one of the first in line. But in the meantime I am working on a “super simple” electro frame. Here is a sneak peek into my plans…

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/MoeRoark/electromagrailweyes.jpg

Integrated rail trigger frame design. That isn’t a GT grip mount that is where 6 AA batteries will be attached inside a sweet looking grip much like the e-mag. I am working with another fella who designed a sweet super simple circuit to run the system. It will be semi auto as fast as you can pull it. No modes or mechanical option. I am using a 5-gram switch that I was able to get a hold of. And if I can, I will try to work in a breakbeam eye system. I have a very simple drill press mill so most of the thing will be completely hand made.

Nate,
Nice. I had a z-grip, but recently sold it to arston. I envy your flatline.

Automaggot68
02-10-2006, 04:11 PM
And to think.
You could buy a DIY morlock and cut out like.....hundreds of hours of time! :rolleyes:
It isn't as easy as designing a simple circuit, to power a noid, to actuate a sear of the on/offpin.

BobTheCow
02-10-2006, 04:13 PM
And to think.
You could buy a DIY morlock and cut out like.....hundreds of hours of time! :rolleyes:
And to think.
You could buy a DIY morlock and cut out like.....hundreds of hours of time! :rolleyes:
And to think.
You could buy a DIY morlock and cut out like.....hundreds of hours of time! :rolleyes:
3 quote, 3 furious

MoeMag
02-10-2006, 04:17 PM
True but whats the fun in that!? :D

Actually that has been a serious thought for a while now.

Automaggot68
02-10-2006, 04:20 PM
True but whats the fun in that!? :D

Actually that has been a serious thought for a while now.

Im not trying to deter you (OK so I am) I'm just sayin'.....
You get it the work, I will be the first to eat my words.

Lohman446
02-10-2006, 04:22 PM
Im not trying to deter you (OK so I am) I'm just sayin'.....
You get it the work PROPERLY WITHOUT SIDE EFFECTS, I will be the first to eat my words.

Had to help you out there. Making something work is much easier than making it work well.

Automaggot68
02-10-2006, 04:26 PM
Had to help you out there. Making something work is much easier than making it work well.

Good point.
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MoeMag
02-10-2006, 04:26 PM
PROPERLY WITHOUT SIDE EFFECTS :rofl:
True that. Thats the fun part.

I have to go to the real world for a while...
will be back tonight.

RRfireblade
02-10-2006, 09:48 PM
What is the “ultimate mechanical mag”?


What is anyone’s thoughts regarding the fabled “ultimate mechanical mag”

My vote ...

http://premium1.uploadit.org/rrfireblade/Paintball/Pneumag-006.jpg

Automaggot68
02-10-2006, 11:30 PM
My vote ...

http://premium1.uploadit.org/rrfireblade/Paintball/Pneumag-006.jpg

Jay. You're clearly biased.
That is SUCH a sweet mag though.

nicad
02-10-2006, 11:55 PM
I would have to go with this one....
And it's still being used/abused to this day! :D


http://www.deadlywind.com/dallara/for_rob/05260001ss.jpg

Tao
02-11-2006, 06:31 PM
I would take a clasic RT and upgrade it. I know it is a pain to upgrade and maybe some upgrades won't work with it but it looks so cool.

I would have a z grip, ULT, lvl10, and a power feed left so I can use a warp if I want on the right (left handed style). Also I would have a Flatline for the enhanced RT trigger.

I would use a Q loader instead of a warp perhaps to make it the greatest mechanical marker of all time!

Whether the Z grip can use a ult or the reactive trigger I don't know but at least it is a good dream! :)

Automaggot68
02-11-2006, 07:12 PM
I would take a clasic RT and upgrade it. I know it is a pain to upgrade and maybe some upgrades won't work with it but it looks so cool.

I would have a z grip, ULT, lvl10, and a power feed left so I can use a warp if I want on the right (left handed style). Also I would have a Flatline for the enhanced RT trigger.

I would use a Q loader instead of a warp perhaps to make it the greatest mechanical marker of all time!

Whether the Z grip can use a ult or the reactive trigger I don't know but at least it is a good dream! :)

The problem with the RT classic/ULT combo isn't with the gripframe choice, it's whether or not the valve itself will accept the ULT kit.
You'd have to get it drilled to accept it, I think.

M.Don
02-11-2006, 08:39 PM
this is my mag (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1911064#post1911064) light as a feather, l10, ult, and drop dead gorgeous looks, also has a nice shiny red barrel now and evil grips (viperblade soon to be installed). i honestly cant think of how i could make it better . (excluding the hair frame) :(

soon to be paired up with a black version which will have a pneumatic trigger. :D

Rudz
02-11-2006, 08:46 PM
some really nice marlers in here...mmm purdyy :clap:

FlawleZ
02-12-2006, 09:43 PM
I would take a clasic RT and upgrade it. I know it is a pain to upgrade and maybe some upgrades won't work with it but it looks so cool.

I would have a z grip, ULT, lvl10, and a power feed left so I can use a warp if I want on the right (left handed style). Also I would have a Flatline for the enhanced RT trigger.

I would use a Q loader instead of a warp perhaps to make it the greatest mechanical marker of all time!

Whether the Z grip can use a ult or the reactive trigger I don't know but at least it is a good dream! :)

Hrmm...;)

<a href="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/Classic_RT_002.jpg"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/Classic_RT_002.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

I love my Classic RT. ;) And who needs the ULT? Pulling the trigger is NEVER as fast as letting it bounce...;)

Cow hunter
02-12-2006, 09:53 PM
I would take a clasic RT and upgrade it. I know it is a pain to upgrade and maybe some upgrades won't work with it but it looks so cool.

I would have a z grip, ULT, lvl10, and a power feed left so I can use a warp if I want on the right (left handed style). Also I would have a Flatline for the enhanced RT trigger.

I would use a Q loader instead of a warp perhaps to make it the greatest mechanical marker of all time!

Whether the Z grip can use a ult or the reactive trigger I don't know but at least it is a good dream! :)
mine might be pretty close.... link (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic.html?pGROUP_ID=6&pIMAGE_ID=33279&pSHOW_ME=standard&pUID=)

and why would the Z grip not work with the ULT, mine fits fine, althought its definetly not as "crisp" as the intelliframe

Tao
02-12-2006, 10:24 PM
Hrmm...;)

<a href="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/Classic_RT_002.jpg"><img src="http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/24000/Classic_RT_002.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

I love my Classic RT. ;) And who needs the ULT? Pulling the trigger is NEVER as fast as letting it bounce...;)

Yeah that looks cool. I am all about the orriginal look though so that grip frame as sweet as it is would just not do it for this dream...definetly a z grip! :)

Tao
02-12-2006, 10:26 PM
mine might be pretty close.... link (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic.html?pGROUP_ID=6&pIMAGE_ID=33279&pSHOW_ME=standard&pUID=)

and why would the Z grip not work with the ULT, mine fits fine, althought its definetly not as "crisp" as the intelliframe

Pretty much what I am dreaming of but the orriginal RT just looks so much better to me than the rt pro sor this idea. The vented shroud is so cool.

I wouldn't mind giving that gun of yours a try however! :P

Lohman446
02-12-2006, 11:12 PM
I would take a clasic RT and upgrade it. I know it is a pain to upgrade and maybe some upgrades won't work with it but it looks so cool.

I would have a z grip, ULT, lvl10, and a power feed left so I can use a warp if I want on the right (left handed style). Also I would have a Flatline for the enhanced RT trigger.

I would use a Q loader instead of a warp perhaps to make it the greatest mechanical marker of all time!

Whether the Z grip can use a ult or the reactive trigger I don't know but at least it is a good dream! :)

The reactive trigger is a result of the valve assembly. The ULT is a modification to the on-off assembly inside the valve. Both are useable with any mechanical frame that uses the trigger to activate the sear. Though the ULT reduces reactivity and the "bounce" from such.