CO2 wont hurt ?

[Paintball_Kid13]

I'm getting a minimag and where i live there is nowhere to fill nitro tanks, well there is is but like 2 or 3 hours away! so if i get an exspansion chamber or remote setup would that help also would a anti-siphon tank help too? and reply helps thanks peeps:rolleyes: :p :D

[mykroft]

Anti-siphon is a must, make sure it's fitted to your gun. X-Chamber and an angled bottom line are good mods too. CO2 will not cause you problems unless liquid gets in the gun, which will freeze your gun, and possibly damage seals.

[Dayspring]

Just remember- Anti-Syphon can only be used on a bottom line. It CANNOT be used in vertical or remote capabilities. If you do, you'll do nothing but suck the liquid CO2 into the gun. Which, BTW, was exactly what you wanted to avoid.

[blembiggity]

also remember u cant have the one and only retro

[RaV3n_Pa1ntba||]

the best mag way to run c02...is #1 A palmer stabilizer
#2 Anti-Siphon tube #3 Drop foward...with an inline air filter...you should have 0 problems or very little.

[Paintball_Kid13]

Originally posted by RaV3n_Pa1ntba||
the best mag way to run c02...is #1 A palmer stabilizer
#2 Anti-Siphon tube #3 Drop foward...with an inline air filter...you should have 0 problems or very little.

that x chamber thing how much does it cost and where can you buy it?

And also where can you buy inline filters and find them

[paint magnet]

Palmer's stabalizers run about $65 or $95 for the chrome/nickel plated ones. You can get them at www.palmerspursuit.com, but I'm not sure if County has them.
They probably do have in-line filters, but if they don't, Skanline does.

[paint magnet]

Oops...wrong link! Try this one- http://www.palmer-pursuit.com

[Paintball_Kid13]

Ok does that work really good? I mean is it better then like anti-siphon or X chamber or those filter things

[Big_Show]

I do believe the Minimag has a filter located in the elbow on the Vertical adapter. I guess another one couldn't hurt. An Anti-Syphon tank is the way to go on a bottomline. Just remember to not point your Mag to the ground to too long of a period when gassed-up. That would be a great way to get liquid into your valve :P. Also if you can't afford a Palmer Stab try a 6-Stage ACI X-chanber.

Big_Show

[paint magnet]

According to Palmers, it works better than an expansion chamber.

[JohnBmx]

Get a used scuba tank and a scuba fill system so u could run a compressed air tank. All you'll have to do from there is fill the tank at a scuba shop for 5 bucks

[Big_Show]

I'm in full agreement with you Paint Magnet. Paintball_kid13 get a Palmer but not as a replacment for an Anti_Syphon. I recommend both. I used a Stab and an Anti-Syphon for about a year before I went Nitro. Too bad you have no local fill for Nitro. Try looking into a welding shop or fire Station that might fill a SCUBA tank or SCBA for you. By the time your done with getting the Palmer and Anti-Syphon you could have bought a decent preset Nitro tank. I've also seen 80cf SCUBA tanks on EBay for less then $100. It's worth the thought.

Big_Show

[Paintball_Kid13]

What does the scuba shop fill compressed air or nitro or what and will a nitro tank hold compressed air i am trying to learn all of this nitro stuff it doesnt make sense to me???:confused: :confused: :confused: :mad:

[LeadBasedPaint]

Originally posted by Paintball_Kid13


that x chamber thing how much does it cost and where can you buy it?

And also where can you buy inline filters and find them

Dang dude you're new aren't you. Oh well, we all are new at one point. An X-Chamber is an Expansion chamber. All it does is give extra room for the CO2 to expand from liquid to gas. You can get them at most paintball stores. I would recommend an ACI 6 stage. They run for about $30.

[LeadBasedPaint]

Um.... <grins sheepishly> what is a filter and what do you get one? I guess I shouln't have called that kid new. What exactly do they do? Would one of those along with an anti syphon tank work about as well as an X-Chamber? I will be playing in cold weather. I don't want to get an Xchamber either cause I already have a reg, and im planning on going HPA as soon as its available (i live in a rural area). I have a remote but I prefer my tank to be on gun. Thanks.

[JohnBmx]

scuba shop fills compressed air ... a nitro tank could hold nitrogen or compressed air .... but remember in order to get fills from a scuba shop u would be filling a scuba tank that u have to buy and u would have to buy the fill system (i think its $50) in order to get the air from the scuba tank to the nitro tank. Heres a couple websites that u can get the scuba fill system from or find out more about it: https://www.paintballgames.com/
http://www.pbreview.com/
http://www.p8ntballer.com/
Hope I helped.

[LeadBasedPaint]

I know a scuba shop could do it, but like I said, i am in a rural area. We are 60 miles from the nearest scuba shop. Utah isn't the best place to live when you play paintball. It has been immpossible to get a tourney team together cause there are no tourneys. Oh, one question. What size tank would I need to get about 1000 shoots off of a minimag?

[JohnBmx]

Lead my last repley about the scuba fill was for paintball kid .. But your recent qeustion Co2 a 20 or 24once tank ... Nitro a 68ci 3000 psi i think will last between 800&1100 shots depending on your gun.

[LeadBasedPaint]

A 68CI will get me 1000? I heard somewhere that they only go 500. Thats a nice surprise. :)

[Paintball_Kid13]

what kinda gun you have?

[LeadBasedPaint]

I have a Minomag.

[Sledgehammer]

I get like 1200 from a 68 cui With my classic Mag

[FooTemps]

To get shots per tank with 3000 psi on a mag you multiply the ci by 10... Bassically you'd need something bigger than an 88ci...

[Sledgehammer]

Foo Temps:

A) that formula isn't true, you get around 800 shots from 68 cui at 3000 PSI.
B) I got an Angel A.I.R. which is 4500 PSI

[paint magnet]

I thought all an inline filter did was to keep dirt and stuff out of the gun, I had no idea it had anything to do with CO2(or does it?).:confused: BTW, some scuba shops will fill 3000 psi tanks if you ask nicely and don't tell them what you're going to use it for!

[beam]

Here is my 2 cents...hopefully it will put you at ease since you seem very concerned about co2 and your minimag.

I've got a classic mag with and expansion chamber, drop forward, angled bottom line adapter and a coiled remote.

I used to be very concerned about co2 so I would run with the remote...never ever had any problems. Then I bought a nitro tank and ran "on-gun" and everything worked.

However, when I would go somewhere that didn't fill n2, i was so used to running on-gun that i didn't want to run my remote.

So I ran my NON ANTISIPHON co2 tank screwed right into my bottom line adapter....I had NO PROBLEMS at all doing this.

All I had was an angled bottom line adapter on a drop and an expansion chamber.

What we all need to remember is that Mags were built on co2...we don't need to fear it....only embrace it and understand it. :D

[Paintball_Kid13]

good point beam so if what ur saying is true i have nothing to worry about i guess thats a good think to know ill still probly put exspansion chamber and stuff on but whatever:D

[Paintball_Kid13]

The more stuff you guys put the better!;) :D

[Panzerr]

They only thing you need is a palmer in-line stabilizer. It will prevent 99.9% of liquid Co2 from entering your system. We had one at our field, that got passed around for fun. I've seen people play with it in 40 degree weather on Co2 and not have any liquid problems. I'm telling you, you will waste your money on an expansion chamber and/or anti-siphon.

[Paintball_Kid13]

I guess thats kinda logical 65 bucs isnt bad either so yeah whatever thanks panzer

[MikeCouves]

Well I had a 20 oz. CO2 tank and it wasn't that bad at all. Everyone says that Mags will die if you use CO2, but it's not true when you run the tank vertical. I had no problems at all...but now I got nitro so it's a whole different story.

[paint magnet]

The way I look at it:

12 oz. CO2 ($30)+ Male Stabilizer ($95)= virtually no problems, cheap fills

45 cui. /45000 psi. nitrogen tank ($115)= no problems, expensive fills

And, in 3-5 years, if the nitro tank fails hydrostat testing, they saw it in half and hand it back to you in pieces, and you lose $115, where the CO2 tank will only put you out $35.

[LeadBasedPaint]

Originally posted by paint magnet

45 cui. /45000 psi. nitrogen tank ($115)= no problems, expensive fills



I got the idea that nitro fills were cheaper than C02 fills. Also, the co2 route is fine for a regular mag, but what about RT's and e-mags. I'm not trying to start anything....just pointing some stuff out.