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AMGuy
12-18-2001, 04:25 PM
I am thinking about getting a Retro and am wondering about my HPA sys.

I have heard people say you should get an adjustable output pressure system for a retro. Is this necesary and why would you need it? (my guess was to adjust the level of kick back on the trigger)

Also, this may be a dumb quesiton but can Retro shoot on low pressure air? would it have the benifits of shooting low pressure (such as being quieter and less likely to break)?

I currently have a 68ci 3000 psi pure energy. If I were to get say a flatline, would that make much of a difference in performance?

AMGuy
12-18-2001, 05:22 PM
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Micromag5371
12-18-2001, 05:28 PM
its not a dumb question to ask if a retro can shoot lowpressure. but the answer is no. low pressure is anywhere below 500 psi i think, correct me if i am wrong. the automags work better at 750-900 psi as i have heard. i got a preset tank and its set low, and my mag dosnt shoot very fast for that reason. for that instance i am getting an adjustable. for an RT you will most likely want an adjustable, as it does adjust the kick on the trigger. you can however, get away with a preset tank. make sure its set above 750 though. a flatline is a wise purchase, so dont be afraid to buy one. i have heard nothing but good things about them

Load SM5
12-18-2001, 05:32 PM
Well an adjustable tank is recommended but not needed. They are handy to adjust the reactivity of the trigger like you guessed.

A mag valve needs at least around 650 psi (I think ) in order to work so LP is'nt really an option. You're really not hitting the ball with that much pressure when the valve regs the air down anyway.

I would just try running your retro on your preset first. It may be just perfect for you. If you find it too reactive then you can look into adjustable tanks.

AMGuy
12-18-2001, 05:37 PM
my pure energy has a fixed at 850 psi
how would this do on a retro? How would the kick be?

Load SM5
12-18-2001, 05:48 PM
Fairly reactive but some people like their's that way.

Xzion
12-18-2001, 06:20 PM
850psi should be alright, I run mine at 800, and know people who run theirs at 900 - 1000 PSI, at 800, it puts it gives it a nice reactive trigger, though, as said before, its really a matter of prefrence. If the reactiveness of running it at 850 is good for you, then there should be no real reason to change it :)

AMGuy
12-18-2001, 08:29 PM
thx guys

LeadBasedPaint
12-18-2001, 08:37 PM
Ok so the RT must have nitro because the preasure has to be regulated? What If I used CO2 and a reg. I already have a vigilante on my gun, could I go RT?

FooTemps
12-18-2001, 08:38 PM
I reccomend an adjustable... The preset pe is ok for reactive but if you want runaway mode fun you need adjustable..

AMGuy
12-18-2001, 09:02 PM
what do you mean runaway mode?

Load SM5
12-18-2001, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by LeadBasedPaint
Ok so the RT must have nitro because the preasure has to be regulated? What If I used CO2 and a reg. I already have a vigilante on my gun, could I go RT?

Nope, no way to make that work. CO2 does'nt recharge well enough. Air only. You will screw up a retro valve on Co2

LeadBasedPaint
12-18-2001, 09:14 PM
Ok. Darn.

AMGuy
12-18-2001, 09:15 PM
what exactly is runnaway?

LeadBasedPaint
12-18-2001, 09:19 PM
I think that mean that it is so reactive that it just starts bouncing itself when you shoot it and kinda takes on a mind of its own.

Dave
12-19-2001, 11:39 AM
I have the same tank you mentioned, a Pure Energy 68 3000 psi 850 preset. I also have the retro valve. The trigger has a cool reactive feeling, but not enough to give it full auto.

-Dave

Drizit
12-19-2001, 11:48 AM
run away is when the trigger will go nuts if you hold your finger in the right spot, it's cool but you stand a good chance of turning your gun into a blender. and i do know of one person using co2 on a retro, however he has it on a remote, with 3 8 stage expantion chambers (don't ask) however it works. realy though just get air

Ityl
12-19-2001, 11:17 PM
Retro valve already runs at about 400 psi, so it needs an input of 600 or more. I ran mine at 700 with a flatline. The type of tank seemed to make a difference.