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Nutsnyomowf
05-03-2006, 06:18 PM
Hey can any of you guys tell me the benefit of a CF hyper frame on a classic valve.Dont have the money yet to get a Xvalve

buzzboy
05-03-2006, 06:32 PM
It really isn't a problem as long as you don't shoot over like 15 bps and you use HPA. Also I have read that it is better to use it with the supplied hyperframe on/off.

SpitFire1299
05-03-2006, 06:58 PM
ULT is lighter though.. and i think even centerflag recommends it over theirs, because the hyperframe was pre-ult (I believe, correct me if im wrong).

hitech
05-03-2006, 07:14 PM
ULT should be better. And I made a vid of a classic valve shooting paint at 20bps fullauto, so I think it works just fine. :D

Nutsnyomowf
05-03-2006, 07:19 PM
ULT should be better. And I made a vid of a classic valve shooting paint at 20bps fullauto, so I think it works just fine. :D

can you link the vid?

hitech
05-03-2006, 07:31 PM
Not at the moment. I could email them to you (about 3.5 megs each, 2 files). Send me a PM with your email address if you want me to email them to you.

Arstron
05-03-2006, 08:17 PM
Not at the moment. I could email them to you (about 3.5 megs each, 2 files). Send me a PM with your email address if you want me to email them to you.

email them to randall@arstron.net and ill post them on the net. ;)

Jaan
05-03-2006, 09:03 PM
I have one on a classic with the Hyperframe on/off and I'm shooting CO2 with a remote line. It shoots fine.

you have to watch out for the older classic valves since the depth of the on/off hole wasn't drilled to exact specs. If the pin is too short it will chew up the bolt.

hitech
05-04-2006, 12:34 AM
email them to randall@arstron.net and ill post them on the net. ;)

The email was rejected. You can try here:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/larrydela@sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/Hosting&.view=l

Beemer
05-04-2006, 02:43 AM
You can try here:

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/larrydela@sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/Hosting&.view=l


Good job Hitech. Thanks I missed em last time around. So good, here they are again.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper1.avi
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/HitechHyper2.avi

What reg and output is that at? Looks all OEM rail, body, valve. What bolt, on/off?

:rofl: and thats a Classic Valve :ninja: But dont tell no one :sleeping: :spit_take

Peace Out

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hitech
05-04-2006, 11:47 AM
That is a stock minimag. The tank is a preset PMI 68/3K. It has a level 10 bolt with the short spring (the middle & long spring will not work). The on/off is the centerflag on/off with their "long" pin.

:cheers:

Dubstar112
05-04-2006, 09:43 PM
http://www.geocities.com/jibbinfatboy/Leftview.jpg

Mine ran flawless for quite some time. Flatline HPA and warpfeed with classic valve and I was never disappointed.

Beemer
05-07-2006, 11:00 AM
That is a stock minimag. The tank is a preset PMI 68/3K. :cheers:

Preset to what?

buzzboy
05-07-2006, 11:17 AM
I'm pretty sure PMI tanks are preset to about 800.

hitech
05-08-2006, 11:48 AM
Preset to what?
I've never measured it, but it should be around 800psi.

Beemer
05-13-2006, 10:54 PM
That is a stock minimag. The on/off is the centerflag on/off with their "long" pin.:cheers:


Hmmmm, Any chance you could tell me how long that pin is please. :argh:

Asym
05-15-2006, 11:32 AM
PMI tanks are supposed to be preset to 850.

I run a spydermag conversion with ULT and love it. Its got level 10 and is fairly efficenet. Last weekend I went to a big game and was able to get slightly over 1000 shots per 68ci 3k fill. Since its a classic I can also shoot deeper into the tank, I can keep shooting untill the tank pressure is under 500PSI without any noticable shootdown. I've only pushed it to 16bps since I know my loader can do that and I don't really need anything faster.

hitech
05-15-2006, 01:29 PM
Hmmmm, Any chance you could tell me how long that pin is please. :argh:

I'll try to dig up a mic and measure it.

flyingpootang
07-28-2006, 11:50 AM
WoW the video is sick. I can't believe I spent 225 on a Xvalve for my Karta and Hyperframe when I could have used a Classic valve.....

Kschroede
07-28-2006, 11:51 AM
yeah that pin length would be amazing hahah

SpitFire1299
07-28-2006, 11:55 AM
The xvalve is lighter, has level 10, more consistant, and just all around better. Also its much more cool. :D