Just how much would you pay for a slug body ?

[going_home]

As I was searching Ebay I discovered a buy it now slug body.
Anyone think they are worth 350.00 ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7245471929

Ok I dont know this Ebayer at all so dont ya'll start in on me again,
but speak your mind boyz.

[surfbum]

no its not worth that much

it really bothers me that people aquire these things and jack up the price

im sure some one will buy it though
thats the even sadder part

[CJ55]

I used to be huge on all mag/mag parts and sorry i dont think that is worth it.

[ThePixelGuru]

It's worth what someone will pay for it, that's the bottom line. I'm sure with the lack of available slugs someone with a fair chunk of change who's making a one-off custom bodied 'mag will grab it. If you're already investing in custom milling, chances are you can afford said slug. Someone will probably pay way too much for it, but that's how these things go. Can you find another slug for sale cheaper than that? It's gonna be tough.

[slateman]

Whats a slug body?

[ttink]

Whats a slug body?
A blank body from AGD with lots of extra material on it which can be milled to your own standards.

[bentothejam1n]

A blank body from AGD with lots of extra material on it which can be milled to your own standards.
he was being sarcastic :D

[Lohman446]

it really bothers me that people aquire these things and jack up the price

Yes Comrade - the government should closely monitor and control the prices of all goods and services, even in the absence of a monopoly or energy need. :rolleyes:

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Yes Comrade - the government should closely monitor and control the prices of all goods and services, even in the absence of a monopoly or energy need. :rolleyes:

SCALPERS are not businessman (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scalper)

I think you forgot difference between this two groups.

If company that actualy produce this slugs desided to sell it at this price than it would be business. But when someone was able to get one and sells it at the price of a slightly used TAC-One marker than its nothing else but scalping.

[Lohman446]

SCALPERS are not businessman (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scalper)

I think you forgot difference between this two groups.

If company that actualy produce this slugs desided to sell it at this price than it would be business. But when someone was able to get one and sells it at the price of a slightly used TAC-One marker than its nothing else but scalping.

So when dealers charge more than invoice price for a car its scalping? Come on, supply and demand. Those that collect (insert any collectable you want) and sell them for more than they were new? I'm lost as to why you would think scalping is not a business. I guess grocery stores that buy and sell quickly at profit aren't in business according to you either....

[Raven001]

SCALPERS are not businessman (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/scalper)

I think you forgot difference between this two groups.

If company that actualy produce this slugs desided to sell it at this price than it would be business. But when someone was able to get one and sells it at the price of a slightly used TAC-One marker than its nothing else but scalping.

A scalper is a businessman. He or she buys something and resells it for whatever they can get. If you don't want to pay you don't have to. I would like to buy a 59 Les Paul Standard but am unwilling to mortage my house to do so....

[ShooterJM]

Hmm apparently I "scalp" stocks all the time... :eek:

[Lohman446]

Hmm apparently I "scalp" stocks all the time... :eek:

Capitalist pig dog :p :D

[Walrus]

I believe this seller is Jdogg from here at AO. You all should be careful about posting on specific sellers because they can always end up being our brothers and sisters from AO. I do believe his price is a little high considering you could have got a new already milled Karta or Chord body from DW for $250 or less back when they were in stock. Yes, the prices of these did go up a little, but it still wasn't that bad.

Unfortunately we live in a world where supply and demand really regulate the price of an item. In this case, AGD isn't producing the Slugs any more and they are not found anywhere. Jdogg is simply cashing in on a market where an item is so rare that someone would actually pay that much for this. He also has it for sale in the BST forums, but I inquired and after learning how much I had to back away. I would love to have a Chord body, but when obtaining a Slug plus having it milled is almost twice the original cost then I will be just as happy with my ULE body for now.

If he can get the price for it, then go Jdogg! We can't help it that someone was smarter than us to get one and to hold on to it until they were almost extinct and then decided to sell it!

[ABTOCMEPTb]

is there any business ethic left around?

When we had blackout here in NYC some grocery stores tried to jack price on batteries and spring water. Some of those sellers got beat up pretty badly.

I unknowledge that slug is not an emergency product but hey no one punching scalper with slug body either....... However I consider both examples opportunistic and unethical type of business. Lets justify body parts sellers. After all they help other people to survive.

Too bad that people forgot that greed is also a sin.

[Lohman446]

is there any business ethic left around?

When we had blackout here in NYC some grocery stores tried to jack price on batteries and spring water. Some of those sellers got beat up pretty badly.

I unknowledge that slug is not an emergency product but hey no one punching scalper with slug body either....... However I consider both examples opportunistic and unethical type of business. Lets justify body parts sellers. After all they help other people to survive.

Too bad that people forgot that greed is also a sin.

This is a consumer commodity, not a necessity - whatever price it can sell for is fine. Don't preech sin to me and then complain about someone's price either. What is the reason for your complaint? A desire to not spend money? Besides, I am very certain that the same book also teaches one not to judge others, especially those they do not know. Funny you lecture on the sin of greed and make it known you have 2 cyborgs and 3 mags. Little greedy? Maybe you should donate those to the less fortunate comrade?

To compare this to the unethical practices of certain merchants during time of crisis, the oil companies, or others such as those, is ludicrous.

[warbeak2099]

Woah woah woah. Cool it.

I think what we see here is the bad side of laissez faire capitalism. The other extreme is even worse however, communism. I think both arguments have good points. No the government can't control markets with an iron fist. That would be communism and it would be wrong. But, the government should be looking out for consumer interests. Just like we see everywhere else in the law, the word "reasonable" should be applied to pricing. Of course you've got to make a profit. But your profit margin for a product shouldn't be unreasonably high and therefore harmful to consumer interests. Things to need to be moderatly regulated. We have seen how in a laissez faire system, a single incompetent CEO can wreak havoc on a local economy. This very year, Ford Motors has been pummeling the Detroit economy with their monumentally stupid decisions. I don't think anyone wants complete government control. But a little more regulation is needed for stability and just protection from idiocy. It's really time to quit the idealistic bullcrap and make decisions based on hard facts. I think people are hesitant to lean towards more regulation because of this mentality that any regulation is communism.

[ShooterJM]

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.

[Lohman446]

Woah woah woah. Cool it.

I think what we see here is the bad side of laissez faire capitalism. The other extreme is even worse however, communism. I think both arguments have good points. No the government can't control markets with an iron fist. That would be communism and it would be wrong. But, the government should be looking out for consumer interests. Just like we see everywhere else in the law, the word "reasonable" should be applied to pricing. Of course you've got to make a profit. But your profit margin for a product shouldn't be unreasonably high and therefore harmful to consumer interests. Things to need to be moderatly regulated. We have seen how in a laissez faire system, a single incompetent CEO can wreak havoc on a local economy. This very year, Ford Motors has been pummeling the Detroit economy with their monumentally stupid decisions. I don't think anyone wants complete government control. But a little more regulation is needed for stability and just protection from idiocy. It's really time to quit the idealistic bullcrap and make decisions based on hard facts. I think people are hesitant to lean towards more regulation because of this mentality that any regulation is communism.

We are not discussing an energy, or a required consumable good. We are discussing a purely luxury item. My argument has nothing to do with anything but a consumer luxury item.

[SCpoloRicker]

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.

I prefer "Get the heck off my lawn!" :)

[ABTOCMEPTb]

I got my markers with the money I earned by working. Sometime 72 hours a week. If I need another marker or big screen TV I work more to get more money. So explain me please how having 5 markers makes me greedy? I got 3 family members actively playing with me. So 3 primary and 2 back-ups seems like a right arsenal to have.

Less fortunate people got an option to either get a job or wait for a time when they can get one. Its not a sin to work.

P.S. I am amazed by explanation of communism. Seems like you think that communism its when Stalin tells you what to read or what to do. But its not a communism.

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

[going_home]

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.



Please do an economics breakdance for us sir !
Do it !

[warbeak2099]

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

Hahaha, it's not really that simple. Communism has so many complexities that lead it away from that fundamental idea of people workign and getting what they need handed to them. Full blown communism does not work in reality nor does it work on paper. The experiment has been run many times over. It at least statistically impossible for communism to work as it is intended to. Nor does it seem very agreeable were it to work according to plan. People in a communist system are not rewarded for their merits or their skills, everyone is the same. There is no individuality or praise of talent. You could be an honest, hardworking person, and still get paid the same amount as some lazy bum who can't do his job worth a damn. Sorry, you really haven't got a good handle on what communism is about. And I fear for our future if you think communism promotes individual needs, honesty, or hardwork. Communism ends up as nothing short of very well organized genocide.

[Jdogg]

supply and demand if you dont want the slug dont say anything, EVERYBODY knows how hard it is to find one, take in the fact that thay are not being made, and have not been bade for a while. it is the babies who canafford it that are crying, i have aquired a near relic in the automag world and i only know of a few to be around. so since i paid 200 for it you will only sell it for 150? i have to say the three fifty was high but i wasnt giving it away. in my shoes it was a flattering offer just to sell it, there are many people who wants one DEMAND, there is only 7 of them two i own to exist SUPPLY. you dont have to have DW mill it, they will do just about anything to it. the Sluggo is a alsome thing to own,{ not to forget the other well toned machinest} you can make anything you want with it, me selling it to much, no. you upset i have and you dont... would you just give away one if you have it? ofcourse i am going to want to sell it for more and if you cant handel it there are other fourms to go cry on

and if you looked at the auction you would see it is a SUBMITT BEST OFFER BUT if you have to buy it there is a buy it now price.

everyone cried when there wansnt one, here one is. typical

[ABTOCMEPTb]

What you are explaining is not communism as its should be. You explained social model of the Soviet Union in late 70's. They were far away from communism. I was born there and leaved there for 25 years - I know what communism is really about.

Communism requaired honesty and integrity. Yes, its impossible to create 100% communism society on modern Earth. Most people want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

Just imagine how many crimes will go away if there are no money and anybody can get anything he needs. That is what communism is all about.

Dont judge about communism by evil deeds of Soviet goverment. After all it was american goverment that locked asian looking people in camps after Pearl Harbor. And it was USA of late 50's and 60' with all the racism going on. Dont forget that goverment is the same greedy people as those that want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

[MicroMiniMe]

P.S. I am amazed by explanation of communism. Seems like you think that communism its when Stalin tells you what to read or what to do. But its not a communism.

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

Where is KAI when you need him?
:ninja:

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Where is KAI when you need him?
:ninja:
Talking to your self?


Jdogg.
Ofcourse you can sell it at the price you want. But you will be judged by your deeds. Some people as you see will support you and some like me will not. As long as this conversation stay civil I dont see why it cant continue.

We are all here because we use same tool for our hobby and forum is the place to post your opinion.

[Jdogg]

if there is a whole bunch of slugs i want to know where they are, but since i am cheap. and know AGD wont make any more you paid what 200ish... i will give you 75

[ABTOCMEPTb]

I dont need it. I dont understand why you think I need one?

But if someone sold it to you for $200 why not to sell it for $220 or $250? After all $50 reward for just reselling seems reasonable. Right now its look like you are trying to squeeze every drop out of this.

Once again some people support you in it. I dont. What changed? Nothing.

[warbeak2099]

What you are explaining is not communism as its should be. You explained social model of the Soviet Union in late 70's. They were far away from communism. I was born there and leaved there for 25 years - I know what communism is really about.

Communism requaired honesty and integrity. Yes, its impossible to create 100% communism society on modern Earth. Most people want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

Just imagine how many crimes will go away if there are no money and anybody can get anything he needs.

Oh my God. You tell that horse crap to the 60 million people who were murdered under the Bolshevik rule in Russia and Eastern Europe. That's from 1917 until the fall of the Soviet Union. Not just the 70's. Then when you're done with that, try and pass your drivel to the millions of people killed by Pol Pot. Then maybe you can go to the other side of the globe and explain how Communism can actually work to the people murdered, tortured, raped, beaten, imprisoned, and made to keep their own thoughts to themselves in Latin America. Tell it to the Chinese who have endured over 50 years of Communism and are still living under it today. Tell it to the millions of North Koreans who were systematically starved to death under Communism. But yes, other than those and a host of other examples, you're right, Communism could really work.

Give me one good example where Communism has not ended in suffering and murder. And don't give me an example of Socialism, that's different. Socialism is not all that bad sometimes. In Scandinavia during the Great Depression, Socialist reforms allowed Norway and Sweden to remove themselves from the disaster earlier than any other European nation and also America.

And another thing, Communism doesn't work and then get corrupted. IT NEVER WORKED IN RUSSIA AT ALL. Right from the get go, Lenin was torturing people and comitting genocide. Wake up from the propaganda you've been fed. I simply cannot believe that there are still people who are ignorant and naive enough to want to try it again when 100's of millions of people have been killed and otherwise victimized by the brutallity of what Communism really is.

[Jdogg]

I dont need it. I dont understand why you think I need one?

But if someone sold it to you for $200 why not to sell it for $220 or $250? After all $50 reward for just reselling seems reasonable. Right now its look like you are trying to squeeze every drop out of this.

Once again some people support you in it. I dont. What changed? Nothing.
if you dont like it shut the :cuss: up, once you get your slug then you can decide what resell is on it, but again i very uneducated friend the auction has a SUBMITT BEST OFFER
WHO SAID I WOULDNT SELL IT FOR 250? :eek: :confused: :clap:

[geekwarrior]

whos to say Jdogg didn't get it for $330 and is just trying to make 20 off of it?

I bought a dallara rail from him and he was fair with the price.

Don't want to pay 350? fine,dont. If no one else wants to either, than he will have to lower his price. If someone does, than I guess he made a smart business move. Supply and demand. It not like he has a monopoly on the slug market :rolleyes: so why complain about it?

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Pointless to argue. Scalper will never admit that he is scalper. BTW kidneys selling good too....Very rare stuff.


To my political opponent.
If you think that people cant think and analyze this world and only live on propaganda food - you are the one who is wrong.

Looks like you based your "knowledge" about Soviet Union only by movies like Rambo and Moscow on Hudson.

I am not surprised at all. Hey USA in Iraq right now right? And the reason is.....? Oh we forgot to say Abu Graib......or wait it wasnt communists...

[going_home]

supply and demand if you dont want the slug dont say anything, EVERYBODY knows how hard it is to find one, take in the fact that thay are not being made, and have not been bade for a while. it is the babies who canafford it that are crying, i have aquired a near relic in the automag world and i only know of a few to be around. so since i paid 200 for it you will only sell it for 150? i have to say the three fifty was high but i wasnt giving it away. in my shoes it was a flattering offer just to sell it, there are many people who wants one DEMAND, there is only 7 of them two i own to exist SUPPLY. you dont have to have DW mill it, they will do just about anything to it. the Sluggo is a alsome thing to own,{ not to forget the other well toned machinest} you can make anything you want with it, me selling it to much, no. you upset i have and you dont... would you just give away one if you have it? ofcourse i am going to want to sell it for more and if you cant handel it there are other fourms to go cry on

and if you looked at the auction you would see it is a SUBMITT BEST OFFER BUT if you have to buy it there is a buy it now price.

everyone cried when there wansnt one, here one is. typical

WHOA that dog bites !
That is totally funny man. :rofl:

//somehow I will be the bad guy here, I just know it
///this thread may get me banned to Leningrad :ninja:

[Lohman446]

I got my markers with the money I earned by working. Sometime 72 hours a week. If I need another marker or big screen TV I work more to get more money. So explain me please how having 5 markers makes me greedy? I got 3 family members actively playing with me. So 3 primary and 2 back-ups seems like a right arsenal to have.

Less fortunate people got an option to either get a job or wait for a time when they can get one. Its not a sin to work.

P.S. I am amazed by explanation of communism. Seems like you think that communism its when Stalin tells you what to read or what to do. But its not a communism.

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

You work for minimum wage right? You would never accept being paid more than the person who also could do the job but wasn't available all the time right? You have over simplified the ideas of communism to not reflect any real world scenario it has been tried under btw. Ideally it might be the perfect system - in practice it has always failed for a reason. Because what you define as greedy, well you can't yourself be greedy, not at all, your the model :rolleyes:

[ABTOCMEPTb]

There are NO MONEY when its communism. You dont get paid when its communism. You do what you are trained to do and you get what you need. No money in between.

That is why I am saying that Soviet Union never been in communism. It was socialism model that was about to go into communism but its never happened because GOVERMENT was not interested to build communism. They were doing their own business by getting gas/oil cheap here and reselling it to other contries for much expencive price. Same scalpers.

At least you learned something today.

[warbeak2099]

Actually I've based my knowledge about Communism on cold hard facts. Those numbers are real. The bodies, documents, and records have been found. They add up. Don't you dare think for one moment that Communism is a valid form of government. It is far more morally disgusting than someone gettign an extra $100 out of some toy. By the 70's, the Soviet Union was crumbling, you never experienced the reality of real Communism. You've obviously never done any research on it either.

Don't even start with the Iraq thing either. You've already shown your lack of historical knowledge, don't do it further. Do the phrases "appeasement policy" or "isolationism" mean anything to you? Those are another two systems that have never worked in the history of mankind. EVER. That's why we're in iraq. Stop being ignorant and lazy and pick up a history book. Read and learn. It's what people like you don't take the time to do.

Now after that's off my chest. let's end this. This individual is clearly an ignorant fool. He does not have any regard for history, facts, evidence, data, or otherwise conclusive forms of basis for making judgements and decisions. His thoughts are not lucid or backed by any facts. Forget about him and move on. We've said our peace. Let him wallow in his idiotic, unrealisitic view of reality. Just hope that he doesn't spread it to anyone else.

[geekwarrior]

There are NO MONEY when its communism. You dont get paid when its communism. You do what you are trained to do and you get what you need. No money in between.

At least you learned something today.



really? i guess i did learn something today. so how do they get their food. Do you just stand inline? Is it like a rewards program? you work 50 hours a week for a month and you get a tv? how many hours do you have to work for a car?

[going_home]

There are NO MONEY when its communism. You dont get paid when its communism. You do what you are trained to do and you get what you need. No money in between.

At least you learned something today.

You get what they say you need.
Not what you want.
They dont give out any Karta bodied Xvalve RT Pro's do they ?

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=555f029a.jpg

(LOL did I need that or just want it)

[ABTOCMEPTb]

If you are interested to know how it really work why dont you open books and read about it.

As of Iraq, I bet those people were sleeping and dreamed about being torchured by US soldiers. Some form of democracy. But we dont judge all army by deeds of a few. So why judge communism by the deeds of corrupt goverment.


P.S. In my posts I never stepped down to assault someone or to call someone names. If its your vision of highly educated person - fine. But remember very often person who calls other person fool is fool himself.

I'll stop as soon as there nothing else to say.

[warbeak2099]

There is money in Communism. He himself obviously doesn't understand it. After all, Communism is the blending of a Totalitarian dictatorship and a 100% SOCIALIST ECONOMY. If there was no monetary policy involved, there would be no such thing as communism.

I'm calling you a fool because you are acting like one. What else can you call someone who has no facts to back his argument and has been proven wrong by 100 years of global history? You also have not intelligently asnwered any of my arguments. Where is there an example of communism working? How do you explain the communist systems that haven't worked? I'll tell yuo why they didn't work. It's because communism is fundamentally flawed. It does not work ever. Nor can it. So many scholars and learned people who have researched this have come to that conclusion. You have proven that you know nothing about it. Yet you would like to say that you are right and they are wrong.

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Sometime I think that you just read first sentence and than skip to post yours. I posted it troughout this topic couple of times that communism is impossible to build anywhere.

[warbeak2099]

So why judge communism by the deeds of corrupt goverment.

because every single communism government has ended in the same result, genocide. None have ever worked. Big difference.

[warbeak2099]

Sometime I think that you just read first sentence and than skip to post yours. I posted it troughout this topic couple of times that communism is impossible to build anywhere.

And then you go ahead and say that it is a great system. I believe that's called, "speaking out of both sides of your mouth". If it's such a great system, then why can't it work? Human error? Then it's not a great system if it can't account for human error!

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Communism is a political ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization based upon common ownership of the means of production.

That is it.

I answered all your questioned in my previos posts. Now I know that you simple didnt read it all. It tells me a lot about you.

P.S. As I said. I was born in USSR and lived there for 25 years. I know what it was all about and what it was ment to be. Your Holliwood based knowledge is so far away from reality....You cant even imagine how far away.

[warbeak2099]

You answered none of my questions. I read through every one of your posts. Go ahead and assert what you want about me. I don't care, because you're alone in it. I'm glad a ignorant fool like you doesn't like me. It makes me feel pretty good actually.

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Dont you even see that you are the one who is ignorant in our convo?

Its like we are talking about movie. I am talking about it because I actualy went to the movie theater. While you are talking about it because you have read article in newspaper about it.

[Lohman446]

Dont you even see that you are the one who is ignorant in our convo?

Its like we are talking about movie. I am talking about it because I actualy went to the movie theater. While you are talking about it because you have read article in newspaper about it.

When you come in here and bash someone for seeing if they can get more for an item then what they paid, for a rare, hard to find item, you started on the wrong foot.

As to the greatness of Russia - you mention Russia and then say it doesn't work as counterexamples of why communism doesn't work. So do you know communism or Russian totalitarianism? Communism being an economic system, not a way of government.

How well did it work? How many "fun" things did Russia come up with in technology. Not military but comforts of life. Decent cars, electronics, paintball markers? What incentive does the communist system offer to those who would seek to invent? Even if we don't discuss the failures of that totalitarianism rule of Russia.

[robnix]

Not military but comforts of life. Decent cars, electronics, paintball markers?

Trust me Comrade! It shoots paint! Very red paint!

[ABTOCMEPTb]

When you come in here and bash someone for seeing if they can get more for an item then what they paid, for a rare, hard to find item, you started on the wrong foot.

As to the greatness of Russia - you mention Russia and then say it doesn't work as counterexamples of why communism doesn't work. So do you know communism or Russian totalitarianism? Communism being an economic system, not a way of government.

How well did it work? How many "fun" things did Russia come up with in technology. Not military but comforts of life. Decent cars, electronics, paintball markers? What incentive does the communist system offer to those who would seek to invent? Even if we don't discuss the failures of that totalitarianism rule of Russia.

I state my opinion. I care less if you dont like it.

Your second point is actualy for this ignorant dude who was arguing with me. Also, I never posted about Russia.

As of what have been done. Well we were first in cosmos. Yes cars are bad. As bad any american family car.

You are unkowledge that military is the best USSR can do. Why cant we count it?

I can ask you in return. Why with all this technology we got New Orlean? Why after 9/11 we went after people that not even remotly connected to 9/11? Why everybody buy Honda/Toyota insted of chevy/ford? Why OJ gets away with killing while Marta Stuart doing time for some stock play.

You got enough problems too. So obviosly your way of living is not good as well.

Goverment official are same corrupted. You got tons of people who eats from garbage cans. USA had same jail camps for japanese looking people.

For any bad thing in USSR I can tell you one bad about USA. Bud does it makes contries bad? I think its make our goverments look bad that is all. I mean USA choose to be with Bush despite all BS he sells you. As Jon Stewart from Daily News called it: Dumbf&*kistan.

[mobsterboy]

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=555f029a.jpg

(LOL did I need that or just want it)

Perfect example of the inverse. I didnt WANT to throw up, but I needed to after seeing such an ugly mag

[going_home]

Perfect example of the inverse. I didnt WANT to throw up, but I needed to after seeing such an ugly mag

Oh no that was the mirror you looked in that made you sick son.

[Lohman446]

I state my opinion. I care less if you dont like it.

Your second point is actualy for this ignorant dude who was arguing with me. Also, I never posted about Russia.

As of what have been done. Well we were first in cosmos. Yes cars are bad. As bad any american family car.

You are unkowledge that military is the best USSR can do. Why cant we count it?

I can ask you in return. Why with all this technology we got New Orlean? Why after 9/11 we went after people that not even remotly connected to 9/11? Why everybody buy Honda/Toyota insted of chevy/ford? Why OJ gets away with killing while Marta Stuart doing time for some stock play.

You got enough problems too. So obviosly your way of living is not good as well.

Goverment official are same corrupted. You got tons of people who eats from garbage cans. USA had same jail camps for japanese looking people.

For any bad thing in USSR I can tell you one bad about USA. Bud does it makes contries bad? I think its make our goverments look bad that is all. I mean USA choose to be with Bush despite all BS he sells you. As Jon Stewart from Daily News called it: Dumbf&*kistan.

Your military was the best you could do? Aside from the newest Mig fighter, one helicopter designed for air to air combat, and maybe the AK you were clearly outmatched in every category. Then the US used many of these technologies to give its people a better way of life.

Hmmm.. ok. Give me the comparison to:

The total collapse of the social and economic structure of the USSR?

[geekwarrior]

anybody else find it ironic that this guy lives on an island?


if you dislike the US so much, why don't you go back to your home country. The least you could do is learn to speak/write proper English.

[going_home]

Mobster may be on to something.

That marker is NOT very attractive. What a shame, some of the parts would make for a really nice marker. Between the ano and that foregrip, it really looks odd.

Everybody has them and most of them stink.
Especially on the color.
But the WWA forgrip is a one piece gas thru 15 degree.
In my humble opinion, a much better product then the RPG 15 degree
where you have to add a little shim piece for an RT Pro or aftermarket rail.
I have some of them and you cannot make the shim fit right
and it always looks jury rigged.
Make a separate asa for the 2 different type rails and you'll have it down.
But the little shim thingy is just lame.

So I guess it was Shawn criticizing Joe on the foregrip.
Just to lay it out plain in the open.

But honestly Colin has it over both the WWA and the RPG on the angle.
His CF grips are 10 degrees which is much more comfortable than either of the
15 degree offerings.

[Steelrat]

Well, this thread has gone right to hell...

[going_home]

Well, this thread has gone right to hell...

It has been hijacked by the gremlins

[surfbum]

Well, this thread has gone right to hell...

i was just thinking that myself
we go from talking about the actual topic
to communism vs. democracy (not really but whatever)
and now to ripping going_home's mag a new one

well
whatever :cheers:
lets all drink a beer and get over it

[REDRT]

4058 rubles? :spit_take

[mobsterboy]

Mobster may be on to something.

That marker is NOT very attractive. What a shame, some of the parts would make for a really nice marker. Between the ano and that foregrip, it really looks odd.

glad im not the only one who thinks this

Going_home, i believe you are looking for the term jerry rigged, not jury rigged, this isnt a trial, but you should be put to death for the horrendous crime you commited when you got that karta annoed that way. Sorry, no mirrors there, unless the internet can manage to make a mirror. Just for the record, Matt, Shawn, Colin, Robbe, Joe, whoever else I happen to think of that does mag related stuff that wants to criticize parts, thats cool. Its one thing to criticize, its another to flame. No flames from Rogue, he simply said that combination was not it good taste. Did he try to start a fight? NO! Did he call you names? NO! Did he say he wanted to declare an all out comparision of parts? NO! Each one makes different parts and thats why they make them, because they feel there's a different demand for different parts. now see, you on the other hand post as if Shawn's gonna get in trouble for his criticism. NO! They could care less, they will continue to do what they do until they find the profit does not merit the work. Now if you wanted a comparision, that foregrip you have is only good for mags. Rogues new foregrip can act as a foregrip for any gun if you run an adjustable tank. Facing the facts, Rogues stuff is more versatile. :shooting:

Steelrat, I thought it was in forum rules to not discuss, debate or talk about the three no nos, politics, religion and something else cuz all they do is turn into flamewars

[mobsterboy]

Why OJ gets away with killing while Marta Stuart doing time for some stock play.

its cuz he's black

[going_home]

glad im not the only one who thinks this

Going_home, i believe you are looking for the term jerry rigged, not jury rigged, this isnt a trial, but you should be put to death for the horrendous crime you commited when you got that karta annoed that way. Sorry, no mirrors there, unless the internet can manage to make a mirror. Just for the record, Matt, Shawn, Colin, Robbe, Joe, whoever else I happen to think of that does mag related stuff that wants to criticize parts, thats cool. Its one thing to criticize, its another to flame. No flames from Rogue, he simply said that combination was not it good taste. Did he try to start a fight? NO! Did he call you names? NO! Did he say he wanted to declare an all out comparision of parts? NO! Each one makes different parts and thats why they make them, because they feel there's a different demand for different parts. now see, you on the other hand post as if Shawn's gonna get in trouble for his criticism. NO! They could care less, they will continue to do what they do until they find the profit does not merit the work. Now if you wanted a comparision, that foregrip you have is only good for mags. Rogues new foregrip can act as a foregrip for any gun if you run an adjustable tank. Facing the facts, Rogues stuff is more versatile.

Steelrat, I thought it was in forum rules to not discuss, debate or talk about the three no nos, politics, religion and something else cuz all they do is turn into flamewars


You are one piece of work boy.
Your parents must be proud. Hey I think thats your mommy calling you now.
Anyway, I guess everyone has their opinion, I stated mine and so have you.
And I stick with what I said.
I meant jury rigged. I have never ever heard anyone say jerry rigged.
That must be yankee slang.
Yeah they come down here and drive slow in the fast lane, never use turn signals,
and always always always have to spread some of there "thats how we do it up north" wisdom :rofl:
I never called anyone names. And I didnt anno the body.
But it will be black soon enough.
Man my opinion of you has dropped now.
I thought you knew it all mob. :tard:
:rofl:

[REDRT]

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=555f029a.jpg



I'm sorry................ That I don't have one like it! Green is my favorite color. Your Mags anno looks great to me. ;)

[Lohman446]

I think it looks decent, that foregrip just throws everything for me though and I cant quite like it

[going_home]

I think it looks decent, that foregrip just throws everything for me though and I cant quite like it

Well I was going to throw it in the box with the rest of the parts that need anno'd
and send it to FBM to make it black tommorrow anyway. Maybe put it on the Emag.....
Got some UMF frames and a couple Chord bodies to turn blue.
I like the Deadlywind CF grips the best, the are pretty comfortable forwards or
backwards.

[Jdogg]

i just want to say a few things


surfbum no its not worth that much
Supply and demand, you will see that a lot in this time.


ThePixelGuru It's worth what someone will pay for it, that's thebottom line. I'm sure with the lack of available slugs someone with a fair chunk of change who's making a one-off custom bodied 'mag will grab it. If you're already investing in custom milling, chances are you can afford said slug. Someone will probably pay way too much for it, but that's how these things go. Can you find another slug for sale cheaper than that? It's gonna be tough.

THANKS! said what i was thinking

ShooterJM
Hmm apparently I "scalp" stocks all the time...
looks like we go to the same golf course


Walrus I believe this seller is Jdogg from here at AO. You all should be careful about posting on specific sellers because they can always end up being our brothers and sisters from AO. I do believe his price is a little high considering you could have got a new already milled Karta or Chord body from DW for $250 or less back when they were in stock. Yes, the prices of these did go up a little, but it still wasn't that bad.

walrus tee time is at nine with shooterjm and myself



warbeak2099 I think what we see here is the bad side of laissez faire capitalism. The other extreme is even worse however, communism. I think both arguments have good points.
i wil not get mad because i think your price is high

had to put gas on the fire lol

ABTOCMEPTb

your non sense is not worth repeating, we all work long hours. stay off the computer if you cant handle someone selling! :cry: :cry: :cry:


going_home WHOA that dog bites ! That is totally funny man

only when old men complain that ther life sucks, and try to tell me how to sell stuff on A ONLINE AUCTION item goes to the high bidder


geekwarrior whos to say Jdogg didn't get it for $330 and is just trying to make 20 off of it?

I am glad you like the rail, thanks for the support and we are working on keeping people like him away, the fence has not made it that far


mobsterboy Perfect example of the inverse. I didnt WANT to throw up, but I needed to after seeing such an ugly mag

eye of the beholder


Steelrat Well, this thread has gone right to hell...

yea they dont care about me at this point :clap:


surfbum i was just thinking that myself we go from talking about the actual topic
to communism vs. democracy (not really but whatever) and now to ripping going_home's mag a new one well whatever lets all drink a beer and get over it

seems to me that some are not 15 yet :nono:





Ladies and gentle men

in my mad caimpain i will never force anyone to buy my item

i promise that i will not start a paintball genocide

I will not make fun of your Mag no matter the color, it was annoed to someones likeing

I will not talk politics

i will back my fellow AO members

I will never come and "find you"

support to keep crazey forigen people from polluting my streets

and never, never give beer to a minor

Finally i will reconize the natural process supply and demand, i have befor and have sometime done this. however not all went to school



keeping it safe and all cool

Jdogg

Ps the body is still for sale soo......UP!!!!!

[mobsterboy]

You are one piece of work boy.
Your parents must be proud. Hey I think thats your mommy calling you now.
Anyway, I guess everyone has their opinion, I stated mine and so have you.
And I stick with what I said.
I meant jury rigged. I have never ever heard anyone say jerry rigged.
That must be yankee slang.
Yeah they come down here and drive slow in the fast lane, never use turn signals,
and always always always have to spread some of there "thats how we do it up north" wisdom :rofl:
I never called anyone names. And I didnt anno the body.
But it will be black soon enough.
Man my opinion of you has dropped now.
I thought you knew it all mob. :tard:
:rofl:

i do believe i am about as unyankee as they get. SC, as in South Carolina, as in the first to secede from the union. I care what your opinion of me is, really i do. I care so much I dissed your gun on a public forum, and if your opinion is that your karta is hot, I dont want your opinion of me to be high. I thought you would actually be old enough to not be presumptuous and say a thing like mobster knows it all. I use turn signals at all times, im just going so fast you wont see it flashing :D

[ta2maki]

...Going_home, i believe you are looking for the term jerry rigged, not jury rigged, this isnt a trial,...
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/jerry.html

[mobsterboy]

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/jerry.html

ok, my bad. Going_home, lemme know how your stuff turns out from FBM, im thinking of having them do my dallara gloss yellow along with my hyperframe

[Walrus]

walrus tee time is at nine with shooterjm and myself

Well, which course are we headed to! Just an FYI I can only drive the cart and drink beer. Having two bulging disks has put me out of doing anything else for a while :D

All I can really say is good luck with your sale. If I had enough money to have afforded the body and the milling, I would have purchased it after we would have went through negotiations. I have had a sweet design in my head that would have looked great or just to have a new Chord body in general would have been sweet. Again, good luck and hopefully you will make your sale soon!

EDIT: I have also heard "Jerry Rigged" as well as some other terms that are not appropriate to mention on a public forum. I used to be a semi northerner (Southern Indiana is still southern isn't it?) but now I live in TN and all I can say is that people down here and up there need to use a turning signal and to drive the speed limit! That is all for another thread, so enough with the clutter :D

[surfbum]

jdogg you are a sad human being
and im just going to leave it at that


btw good insult calling me 15
i think i might have almost cried when i read that one

[Jdogg]

piss off

[mobsterboy]

piss off

what? I have a life Jdogg! You didnt like my offer? :D

[ThePixelGuru]

Wow, I was wondering how you guys managed 3 pages about the price of a slug body on one auction.

Also, you southerners driving in the snow is the funniest damn thing to watch.

[ShooterJM]

ShooterJM looks like we go to the same golf course

For your sake I hope not! There's only a few things I'm good at on the golf course and the only one I can mention here is paying the beer cart girl to bring me scotch. :D :cheers:

[tyrion2323]

Going_home, i believe you are looking for the term jerry rigged, not jury rigged


I meant jury rigged. I have never ever heard anyone say jerry rigged.


Just because I like exacerbating already tense situations...

Jerry-rigging and jury-rigging are the same thing, and both are applicable and appropriate.


Jury rigging or ghetto engineering refers to makeshift repairs or substitutes, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand...Sometimes the phrase is pronounced "jerry-rig", which is often thought to be derived from the slur "Jerry" or "Gerry" which is a derogative reference to Germans and gained noteriety in World War II. In fact, "jerry-rig" derives from the phrase "jerry-built", which has the same meaning and predates the use of "Jerry" as a slur.

[Mescalito]

is there any business ethic left around?

When we had blackout here in NYC some grocery stores tried to jack price on batteries and spring water. Some of those sellers got beat up pretty badly.

I unknowledge that slug is not an emergency product but hey no one punching scalper with slug body either....... However I consider both examples opportunistic and unethical type of business. Lets justify body parts sellers. After all they help other people to survive.

Too bad that people forgot that greed is also a sin.

Please tell me you are not trying to preach about business ethics.

You advertise a LNIB item and sell it to me. I pay you PROMPTLY and get a high milage, highly used & abused item in the mail. You SAID you would refund my money. When I tried to initiate the refund, my messages are "mysteriously" ignored. Then you get, what I can only assume is your mothers paypal account, to start some kind of slander war. I only wanted a refund. Apparently your "ethics" dont include refunds? Yay for commies...