Guinness World Records?

[hgp3fat]

Why is there only one Guinness World Record ...link (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=57835) ... involving paintball? With an entire industry practically based on how fast a marker shoots, there isn't one concerning bps.

The fastest I've seen (with proof) is Zman's 34.5 bps (http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paintballs/z-man_videos/zman_videos_main.html). I've seen lotsa different kinds cycle faster (another possible record?), and some companies claims could be records if verified.

AGD could use a free advertising boost with a Guinness World Record marker don't you think?

[m-a-r-k-7]

There was a video of that on webdogradio.us It looks simple. He was baing shot at from 40 feet away while he was wearing a jumpsuit, thick gloves, the velocity at 230, and balls being firsed from a pump.

[mobsterboy]

cuz thats not a human feat, thats a mechanical feat. a human feat would be like catching paintballs in your hand, your mouth, etc. Something people could only do if they practiced

[hgp3fat]

cuz thats not a human feat, thats a mechanical feat. a human feat would be like catching paintballs in your hand, your mouth, etc. Something people could only do if they practiced

They seem to list way more than human feats... it could fall under the sports and games section. They even have records for the fastest industrial robot and the best-selling halitosis detector.

Why not the fastest marker?

[mobsterboy]

you missed what i was trying to get at
its not special, theres thousands of rt pro/x valves out there, and if they can all do the same thing, then whats special about it? The industrial robot, im sure, is a one of a kind thing.

[hgp3fat]

you missed what i was trying to get at
its not special, theres thousands of rt pro/x valves out there, and if they can all do the same thing, then whats special about it? The industrial robot, im sure, is a one of a kind thing.

So? Having one of the thousands of the fastest of something doesn't mean anything? It's the fact of having the label of Guiness World Record and the buzz (short lived buzz even) attached to something.

Plus it seems to me that Guiness will consider just about anything for a record of some sort... (example (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=52781)). I think the book has room in it for paintball, and if AGD gets some plugs in it couldn't hurt.

[punkncat]

I am not that amazed by that record. I have some of the new Inked that I could catch nearly everything that was fired at me at that distance and speed......that new batch is like a box of marbles. :ninja:

[dahoeb]

i'm sorta disappointed that in a sport like paintball, they did a record on the number of paintballs a guy could catch, granted its pretty impressive i guess...i sure couldn't do it. I guess i was expecting to see something like: "jon doe was hit with a record of 700 paintballs traveling at 260fps in 40 seconds at point blank range (ouch)" or something. that really wouldn't require much skill (more like a lot of NO skill), but would still be a record none the less. oh well.

[hgp3fat]

Sorry... but to add more, this is from the RT-ULE manual:

Airgun Designs is committed to bringing you the highest performance
products possible. The RT-ULE was designed to be (and is) the world’s
fastest shooting paintball marker! The RT-ULE performs best when fired
rapidly, much like a high performance racing engine that runs best at
high RPMs but doesn’t idle well. After thousands of computer gun test
runs and dozens of regulator variations, we feel that the RT-ULE X-Valve
represents the best balance between outstanding rapid fire performance
and stability over the chronograph.
Sincerely,
Tom Kaye
President, Airgun Designs

I agree, but I also would like to see it proven in some sort of official way (maybe even a challenge to TK to prove it himself?). Anyone going to step up ? (http://www.guinessworldrecords.com/records4/Checker/Intro1.asp)

[Beemer]

Anyone going to step up

Sombody already did. You miss these.

http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paintballs/z-man_videos/zman_videos_main.html


To the best of my knowledge this one aint been beat. Therefore the Mag holds the record.
34.5BPS

http://www.zakvetter.com/paintball_videos/34bps.mov

[hgp3fat]

Sombody already did. You miss these.

http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paintballs/z-man_videos/zman_videos_main.html


To the best of my knowledge this one aint been beat. Therefore the Mag holds the record.
34.5BPS

http://www.zakvetter.com/paintball_videos/34bps.mov


I didn't miss those, read the first post in this thread. I'll try and clear up my point...

1. AGD (and MacDev (http://www.macdev.net/) ) claim to have the fastest paintball markers in the world.
2. Guinness verifies record claims.
3. AGD could get free advertising from setting the record for fastest marker.
4. AGD could sell more stuff and make more money.
5. The employees of AGD will have job security.
6. I need a life.

[SR_matt]

the only problem wiht keeping records in an industry that is changing and developing new things every year, month, week, sometimes even day, it will be so hard to keep and acurate record
-matt

[mobsterboy]

I didn't miss those, read the first post in this thread. I'll try and clear up my point...

1. AGD (and MacDev (http://www.macdev.net/) ) claim to have the fastest paintball markers in the world.
2. Guinness verifies record claims.
3. AGD could get free advertising from setting the record for fastest marker.
4. AGD could sell more stuff and make more money.
5. The employees of AGD will have job security.
6. I need a life.

1. everyone claims something. why would they have to prove it? The local diner down the streeet 'claims' to have the best muffins in the world...nuff said here
2. and...
3. if they wanted it, do you not think they'd have it?
4. thats not how it works. do you think the company with the fastest/strongest robot had sales boosted after the publishing of their stats? Prob not. Not enough people bother to read the guiness book of world records anymore, the fad is over
5. because selling a gun that is, in itself, perfect in every way isnt job security? I mean, hell, you'd have to try to break a mag for it to not work right.
6. quoted for truth

[hgp3fat]

1. everyone claims something. why would they have to prove it? The local diner down the streeet 'claims' to have the best muffins in the world...nuff said here
2. and...

We aren't talking about a subjective thing (like taste or smell, or who's hotter Jessica Alba or Jessica Simpson), it's something that can be proven with hard facts and data... like numbers and stuff. Again, Guinness does this.


3. if they wanted it, do you not think they'd have it?
4. thats not how it works. do you think the company with the fastest/strongest robot had sales boosted after the publishing of their stats? Prob not. Not enough people bother to read the guiness book of world records anymore, the fad is over

What business wouldn't want free positive publicity? The more people who know about your product, the more chances you have of selling your product. And yes, the Guinness "fad" is well over, but even a small blurb in any paintball magazine or newspaper is a good thing.



5. because selling a gun that is, in itself, perfect in every way isnt job security? I mean, hell, you'd have to try to break a mag for it to not work right.

No it isn't job security. If you sold a product that never broke or needed improvement, you would be out of business eventually. Job security is always having a need for your product... because selling stuff makes money.

And about keeping up to date records... who cares? We all remember the "first" of something and someone else keeps the records anyways.

This topic sucks and I keep adding to it... over and over... and over...

[mobsterboy]

We aren't talking about a subjective thing (like taste or smell, or who's hotter Jessica Alba or Jessica Simpson), it's something that can be proven with hard facts and data... like numbers and stuff. Again, Guinness does this.



What business wouldn't want free positive publicity? The more people who know about your product, the more chances you have of selling your product. And yes, the Guinness "fad" is well over, but even a small blurb in any paintball magazine or newspaper is a good thing.




No it isn't job security. If you sold a product that never broke or needed improvement, you would be out of business eventually. Job security is always having a need for your product... because selling stuff makes money.

And about keeping up to date records... who cares? We all remember the "first" of something and someone else keeps the records anyways.

This topic sucks and I keep adding to it... over and over... and over...

last time i post in this thread

real job security as you define it would be them coming out with better products while having the same mindset of having it all work and quality control. not more advertising. because they already make products taht never break or need replacing. So your point is?

[JRingold]

I guess i was expecting to see something like: "jon doe was hit with a record of 700 paintballs traveling at 260fps in 40 seconds at point blank range (ouch)" or something. that really wouldn't require much skill (more like a lot of NO skill), but would still be a record none the less. oh well.

So you watch the UAPL on WGN then...

[hgp3fat]

real job security as you define it would be them coming out with better products while having the same mindset of having it all work and quality control. not more advertising. because they already make products taht(that) never break or need replacing. So your point is?

I have stated my point multiple times. If it isn't clear, I apologize. I thought it was crystal...
and since you are done posting in this thread, I will take over your side of the discussion...

mobsterboy says, "Setting a Guinness record for the fastest marker would be pointless for AGD, we all know that they are the fastest."

hgp3fat says, "We as in who? AO members? Paintballers in general? Everyone in the free world? The only way I found out about AGD was through SpecOps, even after reading tons of paintball magazines, and looking all over the web. I wondered why does SpecOps favor Tippmann's so much, but use a different marker for their "signature" sniper marker. Which led me to AGD's site and then here. If I would have found them sooner, Kingman and Tippmann (or SmartParts), wouldn't have got a penny from me.

mobsterboy says, "No one cares about Guinness world records anymore."

hgp3fat says, "Ok, then why did I hear on the radio today about a guy who set the Guinness record for cell phone text messaging (Yahoo news link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_on_fe_st/text_champ_2) )"

mobsterboy says, "AGD doesn't need free advertising, their products never break."

hgp3fat says, "Every business needs advertising, even if it's just the yellowpages. And if you can get it for free, even better. (Notice the mention of the sponsor for the cell phone text messaging record on the Yahoo link?)"

mobsterboy says, "Yeah, well if an automag set the record for the fastest marker, every IonAgg kid would have one."

hgp3fat says, "Oh crap... you're right... nevermind... this whole thing was a stupid idea. Let's just forget it then."

[Beemer]

Nicely Done. :clap:
I agree. Its a GOOD idea :cheers:

Call Guinness and set it up. :cool:

[Beemer]

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/faqs/FAQ_Answer.asp?ID=9

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records4/Checker/Intro1.asp