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slade
07-24-2006, 09:40 PM
so my computer decided to die on me sunday. after about 6 months of using it, it decided to tell me that i need to verify my copy of windows, and then it tells me that it is "not genuine".

at this point, ill resist going into my "screw microsoft" rant, and forego most of my "tech support sucks" rant... as most of you have probably been there before.

anyway, of course i call tech support, get one person who seems semi-helpful, says its not my fault, it has to be a genuine copy since it came preinstalled from sony... and then she transfers me to an answering machine. i called back. the second guy i talked to directed me to a website i had already gone to (which the popup directed me to) and sent me to a different phone number. i called that number, and got an automated system for verifying a copy of windows... which doesnt help, since i already DID try to verify it, and got the notice saying that it "is not genuine". so i call back. the third guy essentially told me the problem couldnt be solved over the phone, and told me to look at the website and gave me the URL i had already gone to. hmm, strange, the first person said that the problem could be called over the phone. i called back. this time the guy i get tells me that my copy is a counterfeit because sony does NOT preinstall windows on computers, and only gives out install discs. yeah, right :rolleyes: i WISH thats what they did, but no, im pretty damn certain i got the box sealed with the little "sony" print on the side, sony stickers on the machine, and windows preinstalled with sony software. this guy i just hang up on.

now let me mention that so far, 3 people have been understandable with accents, and one had a stronger accent and was harder to understand. the fifth person i get is almost impossible to understand. he has a very strong accent, and i ask "what?" after just about every sentence. he decides to give me a URL to go to, and of course he has to spell it out very carefully. for every letter he says things like "n as in nancy"... and for each of the four i's, he says "i as in india". sheesh, they arent even attempting to hide where the job was outsourced to :p .

the URL was to some microsoft e-mail tech service system. heres the first part of the reply i got:

"I understand that the system was preinstalled when purchasing the computer and it should be a genuine copy. However, it recently asks you to reactive the computer and it prompts you that the copy of Windows is not genuine. After restoring the file, the error message indicating the copy is not genuine is still received and you contact our phone support to assist you. However, there is no success after spending much time over the phone."

actually, i would like to know how to reactive a computer. it sounds quite interesting, like something a nuclear physicist would have to do.


so what has this taught me? from now on, i think im going to build my own computer and install linux. linux may not always work, but the problem has never been it asking me to pay $99 a second time... let alone a first. and tech support for linux is generally written in a forum in english, by someone who speaks english proficiently.

...who am i kidding? im going to engineering college in about a year, im going to be required to buy a windows based laptop :(.

lopxtc
07-24-2006, 09:55 PM
Check out this link from M$ about how to remove windows genuine advantage.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914

Aaron

behemoth
07-24-2006, 09:59 PM
Fedora Core FTW.

Tux is my hero.

surfbum
07-24-2006, 10:01 PM
should have bought an apple...

quasimorte
07-24-2006, 10:24 PM
from what i have heard about sony pc's, they are great if they stay working but if they every die they die big, you might want to give sony a call and see if they can help out.

ahellers
07-24-2006, 10:38 PM
hmm.... ive had the same kind of tech support stuff happen to me lately,
lynksis - india
charter - india
it does get frusterating
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Maggot6
07-25-2006, 06:53 AM
I got that problem a few months ago...here is a fix, that well, has worked every since.

Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore.

I just restored it to the week before the Genuine crap, and figured that maybe in a week it would bleep at me again. Well, somehow 3/4 months later no "NON GENUINE! YOU WILL BE SHOT" Messages are showing up :rolleyes:

Hope it works for you.....

SCpoloRicker
07-25-2006, 10:48 AM
should have bought an apple...

This should play out well...

kosmo
07-25-2006, 12:11 PM
Always be sure to click custom install for the windows automatic updates. They try to cram a lot of stuff onto your computer that isnt any good.




should have bought an apple...

I know a friend looking for a business partner to start up a gay bar out in LA if youre interested.

geekwarrior
07-25-2006, 12:46 PM
Always be sure to click custom install for the windows automatic updates. They try to cram a lot of stuff onto your computer that isnt any good.





I know a friend looking for a business partner to start up a gay bar out in LA if youre interested.

:rofl:

slade
07-25-2006, 03:47 PM
Check out this link from M$ about how to remove windows genuine advantage.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914

Aaron
yep, went there, no luck. maybe im making some sort of newb mistake, but i cant find anything relating to "windows XP - software" or "windows genuine advantage notification".


should have bought an apple...
...no. see i bought it about 6 months ago, and i was looking for something with at least a 1.0 ghz processor, a half decent GUI and programs that are actually good.


from what i have heard about sony pc's, they are great if they stay working but if they every die they die big, you might want to give sony a call and see if they can help out.
i had major problems when i first got it, then fixed it and havent had a problem since. the problem isnt sony, the problem is M$ (and yes, the $ is quite appropriate, because the problem is their program trying to make sure you shell out your $99).


I got that problem a few months ago...here is a fix, that well, has worked every since.

Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore.

I just restored it to the week before the Genuine crap, and figured that maybe in a week it would bleep at me again. Well, somehow 3/4 months later no "NON GENUINE! YOU WILL BE SHOT" Messages are showing up :rolleyes:

Hope it works for you.....
thats the first thing i tried. system restore to a few days before the message, and it still comes up. if MS doesnt solve this soon, maybe ill try a system restore to a week or two before.

paintman1234
07-28-2006, 10:39 AM
I know a friend looking for a business partner to start up a gay bar out in LA if youre interested.


OHHHHHH!!!!!! do you need some ice for that burn!

bleachit
07-28-2006, 11:02 AM
I would never endorse searching for a windows key generator and spending 9 hours finding a legitimate key...


Ive been able to by pass this mularkey, once or twice, by doing automatic updates.

this was about a year ago, I noticed that the windows update said that you can bypass genuine bs by doing automatic updates.. I was able to get sp 2 where I could not by doing it manually..


However my friend did not have the luck I did with this trick, and Im not sure if it still works.

beam
07-28-2006, 11:47 AM
Tangent Warning!!!!


So what other word would you have suggested he use instead of India?

It is the correct word in one of the official phonetic alphabets.


I vote for Iguana.

BigEvil
07-28-2006, 12:21 PM
I would never endorse searching for a windows key generator and spending 9 hours finding a legitimate key...


Ive been able to by pass this mularkey, once or twice, by doing automatic updates.

this was about a year ago, I noticed that the windows update said that you can bypass genuine bs by doing automatic updates.. I was able to get sp 2 where I could not by doing it manually..


However my friend did not have the luck I did with this trick, and Im not sure if it still works.

It is really hit-or-miss. It would also seem that even a Keygen produced key that appears valid at first will not pass the WGA snooping around. The same thing with Cracks, unless there are some new ones out there. (Not that I would ever endorse such things)

bleachit
07-28-2006, 09:23 PM
yeah... its just an option, the automatic updates..


the keygen and key changer I may or may not have tried with or without success.


again, not that I would suggest or endorse.


*shifty eyes*

Beemer
07-28-2006, 10:17 PM
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914


Disable WGA Notifications
1. Log on to the computer by using an account that has administrative permissions.
2. Make sure that the WGA Notifications version that exists on the computer is a pilot version. The version format for the pilot version is 1.5.0532.x. In this case, you can uninstall versions 527-532 only. For example, you can uninstall versions that range from 1.5.0527.0 to 1.5.0532.2. To find the WGA Notifications version, follow these steps:a. Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
b. Double-click Add or Remove Programs, locate and then click Windows XP - Software, then click Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications, and then click Click here for support information.
c. In the Support Info dialog box, verify the version number, and then click Close.

3. Rename the following files by changing the extension to .old:• Rename %Windir%\system32\WgaLogon.dll to %Windir%\system32\WgaLogon.old
• Rename %Windir%\system32\WgaTray.exe to %Windir%\system32\WgaTray.old

4. Restart the computer.



http://www.staysecurepc.com/removing_genuine_advantage_notification.html

Removing the Genuine Advantage Notification Spyware

Open "My Computer"
Navigate to C:\Windows\system32
Locate "WgaTray.exe" and rename it to "WgaTray-spyware.exe" - note: you will not be able to delete it, but you can rename it.
Locate "WgaLogon.dll" and rename it to "WgaLogon-spyware.dll"
Open your task manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del)
Locate "WgaTray.exe"
End Task
Reboot
It's as simple as that, and your system should be free from the Microsoft spyware.