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paintballonthebrain

08-17-2006, 11:17 AM

Tippmann is releasing a new line of speedball markers for the enrty level players.The Triumph XL features an 8.5" aluminum barrel and will be sold in a Power Pack, complete with an anti-fog goggle, nine-ounce aluminum tank and 200 round hopper. The Triumph XT features a built-in expansion chamber, an 11" aluminum barrel and a rubberized front grip for added control. Finally, there's the Triumph eXT, which takes the Triumph XT and incorporates an electronic trigger with four different firing modes. Both the XT and eXT include a 200 round hopper and are available individually or as a Power Pack.
http://www.centraloregonpaintball.com/users/Cory/Triumph_XL_TrigGuard.jpg
http://www.centraloregonpaintball.com/users/Cory/Triumph_XT_TrigGuard.jpg
http://www.centraloregonpaintball.com/users/Cory/Triumph_eXT_TrigGuard.jpg

robnix

08-17-2006, 11:24 AM

I think it's great, and hope it performs well.

Cow hunter

08-17-2006, 11:36 AM

you forgot an "ugly" option on the poll.... but its a tippy so it should be a super solid reliable marker

edit; i know where ive seen it before, anyone remember the BE samurai?

craltal

08-17-2006, 11:36 AM

those have to be the ugliest things i have seen. did the design team from brass eagle defect?

BerSerK

08-17-2006, 11:41 AM

I want to see them shoot paint before making my mind BUT they do look like some sort of power tool...

To me it's like a custom98 or A-5 with new "shells". :confused:

CKY_Alliance

08-17-2006, 11:50 AM

you forgot an "ugly" option on the poll.... but its a tippy so it should be a super solid reliable marker

edit; i know where ive seen it before, anyone remember the BE samurai?

Thats what they remind me of..look like they're coated in the same rubbery material. Doesnt k2 own tippman,BE,VL,WGP...i know the last three they do but not sure about tippman.

If thats the case..i dont think the quality will anthything like what you're used to seeing from tippman..more along the lines of BE...i wonder what Mr.Tippman himself thinks.

ttink

08-17-2006, 12:03 PM

Yeech! I think thats one of the ugliset production guns I have ever seen. I want to know how it performs though.

WingMan13

08-17-2006, 12:13 PM

Yep, they look funny but if the price is right and they perform well...I'd use one as back up.
Hell, I still think the 98 is ugly but I'd use that gun any day because it has proven itself.

rellikmok

08-17-2006, 12:24 PM

Looks to me like they took the 98's internals and made a new plastic shell for them. Just look at the hammer, position of the velocity and the oversized hand guard thing which is most likely to house the hose. Hopefully it can withhold tippmanns good reputation and not be junk. Only time can tell.

quasimorte

08-17-2006, 12:34 PM

My home field is getting rid of their m-98 rentals in favor of BT, beacuse they say that tippmann products are losing quality. as for these markers i think they have shot them selves in the foot as it looks like there are very little options for moving the bottle and where to add an additional reg. I would have to hold one to see if they meet up with quality tippmann is know for or not.

warpfeedmod

08-17-2006, 12:38 PM

The blue one looks like my Mr Clean car wash thing.

If the quality is there tho I suppose who cares what they look like?

WingMan13

08-17-2006, 12:39 PM

There is some confirmation that the internals are M98. Basically a disposable, center fed M98. I'd take one!

thejayare

08-17-2006, 12:39 PM

Those of you guessing that the internals are basically the same as 98s are right, according to this (http://tippmann.com/about_us/pressReleaseDetails.aspx?id=27) article.

y0da900

08-17-2006, 01:11 PM

Thats what they remind me of..look like they're coated in the same rubbery material. Doesnt k2 own tippman,BE,VL,WGP...i know the last three they do but not sure about tippman.

If thats the case..i dont think the quality will anthything like what you're used to seeing from tippman..more along the lines of BE...i wonder what Mr.Tippman himself thinks.

Summit Partners owns them.

http://tippmann.com/about_us/pressReleaseDetails.aspx?id=6

Pneumagger

08-17-2006, 01:28 PM

for $150 it will not be competition for the ION. The ION shoots faster, has more upgrades, has a LARGE fan following, looks 27.5 times better, and isn't made by a "woodsball company"

The tiumph will see some good sales as it will sell to SP haters and long time tippmann fans. And another thing going for it is it's backed by the tippmann name, but that means very little when the average beginner paintballer either upgrades in 5 months or quits. but won't be anything near to waht the ION was/is/will be. Now if the eXT was $99, then you might start converting some people...But @ $150 a stock ION is pretty attainable. Go onto PBN and look at the number of BST threads "LNIB ION shot twice in back yard"

Be honest...If you were a kid, would you spring an extra 10-15 bucks for the ION? I would.

Edit: This is what happens when companies turn into corporations. Soon They'll have lawyers :ninja:

robnix

08-17-2006, 01:36 PM

for $150 it will not be competition for the ION. The ION shoots faster, has more upgrades, has a LARGE fan following, looks 27.5 times better, and isn't made by a "woodsball company"

The tiumph will see some good sales as it will sell to SP haters and long time tippmann fans. And another thing going for it is it's backed by the tippmann name, but that means very little when the average beginner paintballer either upgrades in 5 months or quits. but won't be anything near to waht the ION was/is/will be. Now if the eXT was $99, then you might start converting some people...But @ $150 a stock ION is pretty attainable. Go onto PBN and look at the number of BST threads "LNIB ION shot twice in back yard"

Be honest...If you were a kid, would you spring an extra 10-15 bucks for the ION? I would.

I suspect that you'll see the eXT Power Pack for under $150.00 by Christmas, where it'll become juicy for parents that have no clue what they're buying. All they'll see is a whiz bang looking marker package with accessories that will make junior happy. My Brother In Law is a perfect example. For Christmas, junior got a BE POS with a mask, tank, hopper, and paint, becuase it had "Everything you needed to play" for like $99.00.

Toll

08-17-2006, 01:36 PM

Er....Wow.

If the quality is there and it's cheap enough, I'd love to pick up an electro 98 for 150$ nib....I'd just do something about the fact it looks like ***.

spwz99

08-17-2006, 02:09 PM

i know where ive seen it before, anyone remember the BE samurai?

My thoughts exactly cow.

paint magnet

08-17-2006, 02:50 PM

dahoeb

08-17-2006, 04:17 PM

man, i wonder what motivated tippmann to break away from their style so much.

tippmanns have always been really low on flash, but big on strength/reliability and full of fun mods.

this looks like its a complete 180 turn from their well earned reputation.

wasn't tippmann bought by some big company, like WGP was, and if so, do you think that could be an influence in this marker? this seems like tippmanns equivalent of WGP's trilogy series...

gibby

08-17-2006, 04:21 PM

Bleh...I wouldn't get one. Even if it performs well enough for how much you spend, if I don't connect with the product I'm buying, I'm just not going to use it. Plain and simple. But like others have said, it looks like something I can use to paint my house with or wash my car with. But to play paintball with...eh...I'll pass.

Now that I think about it...I do have a question. Does the paintball industry have anything similar to "focus tests"? Before they commit to something or even start producing things, have they even asked the target audience whether or not they like it? Cause if the customer has to compromise their decision, isn't that doing the customer a disservice? Now, it's the companies dictating to the consumers what we want and not the other way around. Is that really progress?

HawaiianHorseBabe

08-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Do you think it's actually lighter weight? Isn't the plastic going to get ugly with scratches? How to paint or anodize THAT??

I'm a gal, and think these look like water toys from Kmart! :p

~hhb

zyklon69

08-17-2006, 04:38 PM

Looks like tippman and brass eagle have been hanging out too much.

ahellers

08-17-2006, 04:54 PM

i think what this is, is tippmann changing there target audience, it looks like there going the way of BE. make a ton of crappy markers for cheap and sell them to kids. for as crappy as BEs products are i dont belive that they are in troble finacialy. it just sucks for tippmanns followers that the company they love is being taken from them.
and if you arnt a tippmann fan it still sucks, ill bet that 90%+ people here first played with a tippmann, now we dont even have anything to look back on.

did anybody notice that it doesnt seem to have tippmann markings any where on it? ashamed much?
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BD_Paintball

08-17-2006, 05:10 PM

it looks like a nerf gun :thumbs down: :tard:

punkncat

08-17-2006, 05:16 PM

Looking at the XL it appears to be a 98 in a composite body. If it performs as well as it always has, and is even more rugged than the cast bodies, I can't see it go wrong. Imagine the color possibilities. And in a year the paint won't all be peeled off....

At first glance I say thumbs up.

If you are looking for a real tippy nowdays you have to get the BT(?) series of markers. They are actually made by the founder of tippman.

y0da900

08-17-2006, 06:03 PM

ahellers

08-17-2006, 06:11 PM

i belive tippmann sued BT for using the tippmann name or somthing like that?
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punkncat

08-17-2006, 06:26 PM

I thought it was his nephew (Ben), not the founder (Dennis, I thought).

you may be right

mobsterboy

08-17-2006, 07:44 PM

Wow, that thing got hit by the ugly truck :wow:

Looks aside though, I'm beginning to wonder if Tippmann is going downhill as well. Plastic internals in guns and now a plastic body too? Hopefully this gun will be at least slightly more reliable than the cars of the same name :D

dan, come on. Just hit??? An ugly truck hitting it would be an understatement. This thing was ****ing dragged by the ugly truck 20 miles at a steady 80 mph.

btw, pm dan

and yeah, this is a bad move for tippmann. With no compatibilities(i assume) and no real tourney speeds, what makes this better than the 20 something odd spyder electros out there that are about the same price?

NewbieMagMan10988

08-17-2006, 08:03 PM

Wow, i see this...

Tippy+BE+Pm5 :tard: = The New Tippmann!

But hey, people paid 1200 bucks for a composite DM4, so who knows...

Mike

doc_Zox

08-17-2006, 08:08 PM

walmart will sell a ton of them

REDRT

08-17-2006, 08:11 PM

Well my first impression is it seems IONish to me. A marker that I also don't care for. To me if your going to buy a tournament marker, buy a tournament marker and not a toy.

Sam5992

08-17-2006, 10:12 PM

meh. it looks kinda... rubbery. Tippmanns always look so durable and this just doesnt. It might be good tho.

paint magnet

08-17-2006, 10:44 PM

Heh, try using "Propane Technology" with this one--you'd end up with a puddle of goo!

VFX_Fenix

08-17-2006, 11:22 PM

For the sake of the Tippmann name, I honestly hope these things do well. Given projected pricing, I think they'll sell. The thing is though, Tippmann is doing something that Smart Parts has already done in the Ion, they're taking their name and putting it on a budget priced item that takes advantage of lower cost production methods. Combine that in that they're being sold in just add paint + CO2 package, it just might work. I still see people buying M98's in player packages and they're more expensive.

st6212

08-17-2006, 11:34 PM

Sorta resembles the E-volts look.

Tipmman's new replacement to bolster its share in the rental market? I have noticed some of the fields here have gone with Ion's for rental markers, this is probably Tippmans answer to it.

Very sci-fi and colourful looking. Will probably be fun to play with in a sci-fi scenario setting (reminds of the old indoor laser tag center that opened up in our area so many years ago, with the sci-fi spaceship setting, flouro lights and smoke machines :D ).

pennywise

08-18-2006, 01:46 AM

If you are looking for a real tippy nowdays you have to get the BT(?) series of markers. They are actually made by the founder of tippman.
That is incorrect. Dennis Tippmann, Sr. founded Tippmann Sports.

Tippmann Sports, LLC, BT Paintball Designs, Inc., and Ben Tippmann announced today that they have reached an amicable settlement of a lawsuit involving various intellectual property issues. Tippmann Sports initiated the lawsuit against BT Paintball and Ben Tippmann in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Indiana, Fort Wayne Division in 2004 and BT Paintball and Ben Tippmann asserted a number of counterclaims against Tippmann Sports in response to the suit.

As part of the settlement, the specific terms of which are confidential, he parties have agreed to take several steps to avoid the possibility of any trademark conflicts in the marketplace.

Tippmann Sports is a leading manufacturer of high quality/innovative paintball markers and accessories and has been in the paintball business for twenty years under the TIPPMANN trademark. BT Paintball is a company
formed by Ben Tippmann in 2003 and BT Paintball has developed a line of high quality/innovative paintball products and accessories. BT Paintball and its products are not affiliated or otherwise associated with Tippmann
Sports or any of Tippmann Sports’ products and neither Tippmann Sports nor BT Paintball endorse, sponsor or approve of each other’s products.

TIPPMANN is a trademark of Tippmann Sports, LLC and BT PAINTBALL is a trademark of BT Paintball Designs, Inc.

Meph

08-18-2006, 11:35 AM

It's just like the automotive industry now. Triumph is to Tippmann as Scion is to Toyota. Best way to put it.

They're basically the same, but not. Just like Dye and Proto, and Cockers and Trilogy's. Same exact concept.

So sure it's "Tippmanns" new marker, but it's really a Triumph marker.

Pullman

08-18-2006, 05:56 PM

those have to be the ugliest things i have seen. did the design team from brass eagle defect?

Uglier than what? Any of the Dye Matrixes? Yeah it's silly looking, but so are a bunch of the markers out there. I agree with the other dude though, it looks like a power tool. Maybe they called in Black & Decker to help design it? :D