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cyrus-the-virus
09-07-2006, 01:37 AM
Name: aedes

Price: less than $1000 (confirmed)

Release Date:(unconfirmed)

Target Release date: Christmass

operating system: a MQ-valve and a blow-forward Spring-return bolt. It is capable of 54 full shot cycles pers second. It can cycle the bolt 83 times a second(not long enough dwell to fire a paintball)

specs We Know (from Nicad):
1: Break beam eyes
2: No LPR
3: One moving oring
4: Uses 1 9v
5: 6 gram bolt (2 avrage paintballs)
6: Lighter/smaller than an Alian Intercepter
7: Cocker Threaded
8: About 1500shots from a 68/4500 in the prototype
IT WILL NOT COME WITH A PALMERS REG (aka the long ugly regulator)
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pictures: http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~dfinch/images/DWpics/

Video: http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/Aedes...s-ReloaderB.mpg (http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/Aedes-29bps-ReloaderB.mpg)

sound file: http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/83cps.wav

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The last thread got cluttered so I reposted what I could find, I will edit this as time goes on and more info is relesed.

If I forgot somthing PM me. do not post what I forgot. I will then edit this post.

Now disscuss.

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http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h293/shot-on-sight_photos/DW_Aedes-vs-WDP_One.jpg
http://www.deadlywind.com/images/8g_prototype1/Aedes-12-shot-string.jpg
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EDIT: Updated.

pennywise
09-07-2006, 03:37 AM
:ninja:

That's all I got to say about that...

trevorjk
09-07-2006, 04:04 AM
http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198038&highlight=deadlywind
and
http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199568&highlight=deadlywind

but thanks for the updated info! glad to see it around the $700 range

jenarelJAM
09-09-2006, 01:44 AM
Wow... thats awesome... I want to hear more about reliability, personally, but I'm sure they'll make $$$ off the kiddies who want the fastest bps possible...

cyrus-the-virus
09-09-2006, 02:02 AM
Wow... thats awesome... I want to hear more about reliability, personally, but I'm sure they'll make $$$ off the kiddies who want the fastest bps possible...

The Aedes could shoot 5 BPS for all I care (just means i use less paint :ninja: ) I want it because it's light as hell.

I'd probubly just cap it at 15 anyhow. I just want a nice light marker that doesent cost 2000$ and isent blowback.

nicad
09-09-2006, 06:21 PM
Cyrus-
the current 6g bolt is not designed to be anti-chop, but it CAN chamber, fire a ball at full velocity, and return compleatly 83 times a second.
But, so far, no regualtors can keep the chamber pressurized that fast nor can a loader feed a ball in 0ms. :)

What that does mean tho, is that for any given loader out there, the Aedes will push more paint than any other marker with that same loader.

Reliability- How does one moving oring and no LPR sound?

pump
09-09-2006, 06:38 PM
whens the pump version comming out?

slateman
09-09-2006, 06:43 PM
How much?

master_alexander
09-09-2006, 07:01 PM
whens the pump version comming out?

lol..

paintman1234
09-09-2006, 07:28 PM
colin you are the man! this gun is going to rock. I will be one of the first on the list for preorders for that price. when are we thinking this is going to drop? It isnt going to be like the hair trigger is it?

going_home
09-09-2006, 08:42 PM
colin you are the man! this gun is going to rock. I will be one of the first on the list for preorders for that price. when are we thinking this is going to drop? It isnt going to be like the hair trigger is it?

Put me on the list for one of your complete markers sir.
But Colin please update the diehard mag enthusiasts on when or if the HAir trigger will be available. Give us some news.

I loved my 06 Ego. But when my Emag was Xmodded I loved it more and sold the Ego.

But I think theres a lot of people in this forum that would agree, that when playing with a mechanical mag, theres just a fun factor that isnt there with any other marker bar none.
The personalized customization and so for, its each persons creation.
The kiddies at the paintball field that think its the new Shocker.

I have been hoping and waiting for the day I could get my hands on one of those.

:bounce:

And like I said, I will buy one of the Aedes or whatever they are called.

cyrus-the-virus
09-09-2006, 11:48 PM
Put me on the list for one of your complete markers sir.
But Colin please update the diehard mag enthusiasts on when or if the HAir trigger will be available. Give us some news.

I loved my 06 Ego. But when my Emag was Xmodded I loved it more and sold the Ego.

But I think theres a lot of people in this forum that would agree, that when playing with a mechanical mag, theres just a fun factor that isnt there with any other marker bar none.
The personalized customization and so for, its each persons creation.
The kiddies at the paintball field that think its the new Shocker.

I have been hoping and waiting for the day I could get my hands on one of those.

:bounce:

And like I said, I will buy one of the Aedes or whatever they are called.

I'll get the AEDES then build my mag.

Pneumagger
09-10-2006, 11:04 AM
so if this gun can fire as fast as an infinate speed hopper will feed and a regulator will work, then this is it. It is the current lightest, current smallest, and theorhetically fastest marker that can be produced?
nicad, is that basically the aedes sommed up in one sentance?

Put my name on the list for one rigt after going home. :cool:

master_alexander
09-10-2006, 11:08 AM
same here, sadly to say, i might rid myself of my shocker for it. and for those who dont know me (well, kinda everyone..) thats a really big thing.

cyrus-the-virus
09-10-2006, 12:18 PM
so if this gun can fire as fast as an infinate speed hopper will feed and a regulator will work, then this is it. It is the current lightest, current smallest, and theorhetically fastest marker that can be produced?
nicad, is that basically the aedes sommed up in one sentance?

Put my name on the list for one rigt after going home. :cool:

No hopper can keep up that fast

no reg can keep up with that

What field would let you shoot 83BPS anyhow :P

Pneumagger
09-10-2006, 12:29 PM
he just said, it can cycle paintbals and fire them full velocity @ 83 cpsif the loader can shoot that fast.

so basically, buy the aedes, the best reg on the market, and the fastest hopper. The only thing that will ever limit you is the hopper and reg. That's all you'll ever have to upgrade in the future. I'd have to imagine, that even a braided hose has trouble at those speeds to shoot.

colin, get a 100CF scuba and bleed it until it reaches the operating pressure of the gun. Then get a qloader and overwind it for max BPS. Then give us a 2 second movie :cool:

cyrus-the-virus
09-10-2006, 12:48 PM
he just said, it can cycle paintbals and fire them full velocity @ 83 cpsif the loader can shoot that fast.

so basically, buy the aedes, the best reg on the market, and the fastest hopper. The only thing that will ever limit you is the hopper and reg. That's all you'll ever have to upgrade in the future. I'd have to imagine, that even a braided hose has trouble at those speeds to shoot.

colin, get a 100CF scuba and bleed it until it reaches the operating pressure of the gun. Then get a qloader and overwind it for max BPS. Then give us a 2 second movie :cool:

Actually 1.27 or 1.28 :D give or take cus my math skills suck :(

agd_tac1
09-10-2006, 01:11 PM
That is awesome, they'll be making 10 + 11 packs now :wow:

cyrus-the-virus
09-10-2006, 01:14 PM
That is awesome, they'll be making 10 + 11 packs now :wow:

20+11 :dodgy:

noob

BuyMyMag
09-10-2006, 01:43 PM
Hmmm. Looks interesting. From the looks of the marker when it was put together, it looks like the love child of a viking and an alien interceptor/EGO.

:ninja:

WARPED1
09-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Will it have an eye of somesort? I think I remember nicad saying it'd be an option. Make it standar and I'll buy one! Every other Egun, an eye comes standard. :) Looks awesome btw.

nicad
09-10-2006, 03:34 PM
Yes it will have an eye. In the video it was shooting full auto with an eye.

Cost est: Easy under $1000.
Time est: shooting for Christmas. The closer that gets tho, the more likely it will get pushed back. :)

m-a-r-k-7
09-10-2006, 04:16 PM
Reliability- How does one moving oring and no LPR sound?

Amazing!



I hope this comes out around christmas... I've been good this year and need to get myself a present..

cyrus-the-virus
09-10-2006, 06:06 PM
Amazing!



I hope this comes out around christmas... I've been good this year and need to get myself a present..

QFT with a litle help from parents and relatives ;)

Rudz
09-10-2006, 06:40 PM
I want one, but...what's the efficiency on this bad boy? How many shots per fill? Its fast, its light, but how is it on air?

master_alexander
09-10-2006, 09:45 PM
I want one, but...what's the efficiency on this bad boy? How many shots per fill? Its fast, its light, but how is it on air?

i remember reading that it was upwards of 1500 on a 68/45 but DONT take that as a reliable source. i dont remember where i got it, but it sounds right.

Rudz
09-10-2006, 11:26 PM
if thats right, not to bad at all

chemical x
09-11-2006, 05:48 AM
Would two regs solve the current air issue? Not the main and an LPR but two main regs. And not inline either. The line would lead to a T fitting and the line would split and head to the regs then into the gun. It might look bad. But until reg tech catches up this might be the only approach. I am not sure that one tank could feed both regs or even a single reg at a sustained fire rate of 83CPS. The friction in the air line or even reg capabilities might be your final limitation.

Pneumagger
09-11-2006, 05:57 AM
2 parrallel regs might be a sweet Idea, at least for testing. Colin...you are amazing (http://www.colin.moritz.youaremighty.com/). I'm sure you could design a dual parrallel reg system using the belleville washer system like the CP regs, that might give the reg a chance at being small enough to be practical.

eNder159
09-11-2006, 10:12 AM
stick a qloader on that thing

paintman1234
09-11-2006, 03:23 PM
what do the 2liter and that new pneumatic reg clame? isnt it liek 80 cps?

m-a-r-k-7
09-11-2006, 03:45 PM
i remember reading that it was upwards of 1500 on a 68/45 but DONT take that as a reliable source. i dont remember where i got it, but it sounds right.

1500 is what Nicad said in a PBN thread

WARPED1
09-11-2006, 05:11 PM
Yes it will have an eye. In the video it was shooting full auto with an eye.

Cost est: Easy under $1000.
Time est: shooting for Christmas. The closer that gets tho, the more likely it will get pushed back. :)
Cool, thanks nicad. Good updates. :)

chip08
09-11-2006, 08:14 PM
What types of barrells does this accept?

cyrus-the-virus
09-11-2006, 08:19 PM
What types of barrells does this accept?

Autococker or ion, because those are the threads his wisper barrel comes in.(it's common sence)

Most likly Autocoker. because they are more readaly avalable.

nicad bring back the 12" 75$ wipser barrel :(

WARPED1
09-12-2006, 12:01 AM
What types of barrells does this accept?
Hope it's Autococker, THE most common barrel type.

m-a-r-k-7
09-12-2006, 08:03 AM
I would assume cocker. Again that's assume. Because the karta/dalarra/chord were made from slugs which needed to be threaded, meaning he has the cocker tap. The ion don
t have threds, its the inner body thing that does.

thecavemankevin
09-12-2006, 10:26 AM
2 parrallel regs might be a sweet Idea, at least for testing. Colin...you are amazing (http://www.colin.moritz.youaremighty.com/). I'm sure you could design a dual parrallel reg system using the belleville washer system like the CP regs, that might give the reg a chance at being small enough to be practical.

hahahaha :rofl:

hmm....PS3 or this gun....hmm??????? :confused:

thecavemankevin
09-12-2006, 10:28 AM
1500 is what Nicad said in a PBN thread

thats becuase here he will charge under 1k, over on PBN they are charged a premium for sucking

Pneumagger
09-12-2006, 11:38 AM
he was referring to 1500 shot eficiency. :tard:

m-a-r-k-7
09-12-2006, 01:34 PM
Yeah, pneumagger is correct... and i forgot to mention that it was at 270fps I believe.

nicad
09-12-2006, 01:42 PM
Autococker threads for sure.

We are seeing 1500 shots from a 68/4500 at 295fps.
If set to 270fps, I would GUESS it would be around 1800-1900. (not tested)

Pneumagger
09-12-2006, 01:51 PM
speed has nothing to do with eficiency http://imgs.pbnation.com/smilies/dodgy.gif

nicad
09-12-2006, 02:32 PM
speed has nothing to do with eficiency http://imgs.pbnation.com/smilies/dodgy.gifExactly! And temperature has nothing to do with pressure! :p

Pneumagger
09-12-2006, 02:36 PM
I heard that argument once... that speed does not effect efficiency if you inrease velocity by increaseing the dwell instead of pressure. The claimed as long as the pressure stayed the same, the eficiency did also for all EP markers. :rolleyes:

I lol'ed

pump
09-12-2006, 07:43 PM
speed has nothing to do with eficiency http://imgs.pbnation.com/smilies/dodgy.gifso if i set my pump to shoot 400 fps and then to 260 i will get the same amout of shots off 1 12 gram?.....sweeeeet :rofl:

thirdturtle
09-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Evolve's Pi reg claims that it is capable of 66 cycles per second with its ballanced valve design.

cyrus-the-virus
09-13-2006, 12:49 AM
I don't give a rats anus about effeciency. I'm already sold becaus of the fact it will run on CO2. Witch means I can use it anywhere I want to. on anygas source I want to.

I can't afford more than a half a case a day anyhow so as long as I can get 1000 shots out of a 20oz or 45/45 I'll be happy.

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 06:19 AM
wht don't you just get HPA?

WARPED1
09-13-2006, 11:28 AM
wht don't you just get HPA?
Not everyone can afford it, not every field in the world fills it. Maybe one of those for him?

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 12:08 PM
he's buying an aedes with the intent of running off co2...I don't think financial duress is the reason he's shooting co2.

You know... you can get 3000psi scuba off ebay fairly cheap and they are like $8 to get filled at a gas distributer.

behemoth
09-13-2006, 12:15 PM
he's buying an aedes with the intent of running off co2...I don't think financial duress is the reason he's shooting co2.

You know... you can get 3000psi scuba off ebay fairly cheap and they are like $8 to get filled at a gas distributer.

While i agree, you have to admit, thats more of a hassle than just getting a c02 fill at the Proshop, Dicks, some hardware stores, the feild...


Buuuuuuut, he will be running c02, on an extremely fast marker, that cant be good.

WARPED1
09-13-2006, 12:50 PM
he's buying an aedes with the intent of running off co2...I don't think financial duress is the reason he's shooting co2.

You know... you can get 3000psi scuba off ebay fairly cheap and they are like $8 to get filled at a gas distributer.
Maybe its a 45 mile drive to get SCUBAs filled.
And just because he can afford the gun, maybe he can't afford the gun and a tank system.

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 01:02 PM
ok, ok. But it would be cool if I could run off co2. A 16oz co2 is so small compared to an HPA system. That's why i would like co2.

I would love to run an aedes off of co2 powerlets. you could empty a powerlet in .5 seconds :D

athomas
09-13-2006, 01:24 PM
so if i set my pump to shoot 400 fps and then to 260 i will get the same amout of shots off 1 12 gram?.....sweeeeet :rofl:
Speed of operation does not affect efficiency so much, but velocity does. It takes more energy to fire an object at a higher velocity, so you will get a lesser number of shots off your power source.

11 Bravo
09-13-2006, 09:51 PM
Buuuuuuut, he will be running c02, on an extremely fast marker, that cant be good.

It could get ugly...

behemoth
09-13-2006, 10:02 PM
It could get ugly...

Could?

I've had my asa frost over when shooting my borg on psp-uncapped, with HPA.

:x

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 10:35 PM
Colin just said he made a reg that works at 35 BPS and seems to be regging @ 100 CPS :wow:

GOD, PLEASE LET COLIN MAKE A PREORDER LIST. I say charge normal price on the pre orders with complimentery preorder whisper barrels. :headbang:

master_alexander
09-13-2006, 10:52 PM
Colin just said he made a reg that works at 35 BPS and seems to be regging @ 100 CPS :wow:

GOD, PLEASE LET COLIN MAKE A PREORDER LIST. I say charge normal price on the pre orders with complimentery preorder whisper barrels. :headbang:

im with you!

/only pre-order id ever do

st6212
09-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Lol....now I have to figure out how to get one imported to Australia.

Gotta find a dealer here that's willing to do it for me.

cyrus-the-virus
09-13-2006, 11:07 PM
Maybe its a 45 mile drive to get SCUBAs filled.
And just because he can afford the gun, maybe he can't afford the gun and a tank system.

CO2 is just cheaper for me, no registered field within 120miles.

When was the last time you ever shot more than 20BPS on semi automatic?

CO2 is not an evil gas, it can be just as effective as HPA (albet more temperature sensitve) you just gotta know what your doing.

BTW main post will be updated here in about 2 seconds.

FinchMan
09-13-2006, 11:39 PM
Colin just said he made a reg that works at 35 BPS and seems to be regging @ 100 CPS :wow:

Now he just needs to make a new loader to replace his old halo. :rofl:

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 11:42 PM
Lol....now I have to figure out how to get one imported to Australia.

Gotta find a dealer here that's willing to do it for me.

I can ship it to your buisness you work at from my buisness.

Pneumagger
09-13-2006, 11:43 PM
When was the last time you ever shot more than 20BPS on semi automatic?

I did last night in my bedrom. Then my alarm went off. :cry:

cyrus-the-virus
09-13-2006, 11:52 PM
I did last night in my bedrom. Then my alarm went off. :cry:

heh 20 is that all? I can do 23 before my alarm goes off.

Pneumagger
09-14-2006, 12:15 AM
yeah, but it's a 20 vs 20 scenario, and I'm really efficient with my shots. And Tom Kaye is always on my team too :p

Skywalker
09-14-2006, 12:56 AM
Well, I think I'll be selling my X-Mag to get one of these babies.

Any takers?

Pneumagger
09-14-2006, 12:57 AM
PM me pics. Right Mew!

ahellers
09-14-2006, 01:08 AM
how bout you send me your xmag today and ill buy you one of these when they come out ;)
t

WARPED1
09-14-2006, 02:01 AM
how bout you send me your xmag today and ill buy you one of these when they come out ;)
t
I firmly believe this gun (Aedes) will be coming out. It just might be awhile. ;) Oh, and nicad, take your time! We all got to save anyway.:)

thecavemankevin
09-14-2006, 07:33 AM
When was the last time you ever shot more than 20BPS



I did last night in my bedrom. Then my arm fell off. :cry:

http://www.pasadenapictures.com/images/Z/jerkoff.jpg

:rofl:

cyrus-the-virus
09-14-2006, 09:59 AM
http://www.pasadenapictures.com/images/Z/jerkoff.jpg

:rofl:

no...

chip08
09-14-2006, 11:36 AM
Will it have an LED or LCD screen of any type? What type of board?

btw, I am lusting over this marker...

wanna-b-ballin'
09-14-2006, 08:22 PM
my god that thing is small. it looks really akward with a halo on it.

cyrus-the-virus
09-14-2006, 10:39 PM
my god that thing is small. it looks really akward with a halo on it.

VLocity FTW :hail: :dance: :shooting:

st6212
09-14-2006, 11:43 PM
VLocity FTW :hail: :dance: :shooting:

Vlocity Jr. :ninja:

m-a-r-k-7
09-15-2006, 12:07 AM
Something quoted from a PBN thread that may interest you:


believe it or not, a mech version has been mostly designed already (but not built yet)

cyrus-the-virus
09-15-2006, 12:18 AM
Vlocity Jr. :ninja:

If it's ever released.

I also hear rumors of a revy-2

cyrus-the-virus
09-16-2006, 01:30 AM
Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!

WARPED1
09-16-2006, 01:36 AM
Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!
What? Did you see this? Smart Parts buys Deadlywind (http://www.dennyweb.com/viking_kittens.htm)

Head knight of Ni
09-16-2006, 01:59 AM
What? Did you see this? Smart Parts buys Deadlywind (http://www.dennyweb.com/viking_kittens.htm)
Why you.. [John Cleese]...that's not funny![/john cleese]

m-a-r-k-7
09-16-2006, 02:01 AM
That was... odd

WARPED1
09-16-2006, 03:17 AM
That was... odd
I just had to do it. I love the Aedes so far. Is it pronounced as [the eighties]?

m-a-r-k-7
09-16-2006, 09:08 PM
Like that but put a Fonzie Ayyyy on the beginning. Ayyyy - deez

Dartshot123
09-16-2006, 09:46 PM
Sweet. If the electro isn't too expensive I'll get it, if not, I'll be pickin' up the mech version. :D

cyrus-the-virus
09-16-2006, 11:31 PM
Sweet. If the electro isn't too expensive I'll get it, if not, I'll be pickin' up the mech version. :D

and the stockclass version, and the electric stockclass version

shaunyoung000
09-17-2006, 12:54 AM
i want one, not really, well maybe, I dunno :tard: :tard:

olinar
09-17-2006, 01:08 AM
whens the pump version comming out?

lol that was great,heres nicad sayin it can feed faster than anythin else out there and he asks for pump.
"GANGSTA"

WARPED1
09-17-2006, 01:20 AM
Sweet. If the electro isn't too expensive I'll get it, if not, I'll be pickin' up the mech version. :D
Please for the love of God, don't make it mech. Stay in the 21st century!

cyrus-the-virus
09-17-2006, 02:16 AM
Please for the love of God, don't make it mech. Stay in the 21st century!

WTF is so bad about mechs eh? What if I prefer a mech over an electro for scenario game eh?

Make a pump/mech version all at the same time so I can save money :D

I would love you forever if you did that.

master_alexander
09-17-2006, 08:55 AM
WTF is so bad about mechs eh? What if I prefer a mech over an electro for scenario game eh?

Make a pump/mech version all at the same time so I can save money :D

I would love you forever if you did that.

i think it would be nice to have that ability, but then it would need a hybrid mode, too. i vote tat it just stay electro :)

Arstron
09-17-2006, 09:02 AM
Hmmm, a mech marker from the same people that was making the hair trigger.... :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

cyrus-the-virus
09-17-2006, 09:46 AM
i think it would be nice to have that ability, but then it would need a hybrid mode, too. i vote tat it just stay electro :)

I vote make a mech so I can used it with what hopper I want at the SPPL.

Tool-of-death
09-18-2006, 01:06 PM
Badass gun looks nice can't wait for it to be released....

BTW word over on pbnation is that it can reach 100 FULL cycles per second without shootdown..

IMO Thats pretty insane :P

master_alexander
09-24-2006, 05:38 PM
anyone know what reg this will come with? or what reg you guys think will work with it best?

Pneumagger
09-24-2006, 06:19 PM
hopefully the moonshine reg or the evolve pi.

master_alexander
09-24-2006, 06:25 PM
the.. moonshine reg?

Pneumagger
09-24-2006, 06:47 PM
the moonshine reg

WenULiVeUdiE
09-24-2006, 06:52 PM
the.. moonshine reg?

It is one of Colin's own design.

master_alexander
09-24-2006, 07:56 PM
ohh..

haha, just put 2 and 2 together.

i got 4.

Pneumagger
09-24-2006, 08:57 PM
I put 2+2 together once, I got 5, an X and an F. :cry:

You got lucky this time. Good Job :cheers:

Triangle
09-24-2006, 09:04 PM
I think everything on the marker looks great, but there needs to be alot of smoothing out on the trigger, and trigger frame.

master_alexander
09-24-2006, 09:20 PM
yeah, i would want a different trigger on it... im more of a fan of flatter triggers, and like to have alot of triggers because i change my mind. a CF trigger would be cool for this, lol, even lighter. I like the frame looks, aswell. Also thing that if colin does make a reg, it should just go straight up and down, not curves or anything... as far as regs go im a fan of it being stark.

Rudz
09-25-2006, 12:53 AM
i see this gun in dust black, with a dw whisper barrel, and cf grips..yes cf grips, and a cf trigger...oooh now thats hot...mmmm

Pneumagger
09-25-2006, 06:36 AM
CF is over rated. i wish they made sticky 3's for my vert frame... I miss comfy grips :cry:

thecavemankevin
09-25-2006, 07:33 AM
word over on pbnation is that it can reach 100 FULL cycles per second without shootdown..



mmmmrrrrriiiigggghhhtttttttt :tard:

Steelrat
09-25-2006, 08:54 AM
Badass gun looks nice can't wait for it to be released....

BTW word over on pbnation is that it can reach 100 FULL cycles per second without shootdown..

IMO Thats pretty insane :P

I've heard that touching it can cure the sick. Also, it's been said that it can turn lead into gold! :clap:

Indignant
09-25-2006, 08:58 AM
I've heard that touching it can cure the sick. Also, it's been said that it can turn lead into gold! :clap:

i saw it cure leprosy!

Pneumagger
09-25-2006, 10:32 AM
(cleqars throat and examines conversation record)


Good point you raise here about the 100 vs 83 cps. I was not clear about the two. Here is the entire story about each number:
83: I placed a linear position sensor on the bolt, and captured its position over time with a digital O-scope. It showed the full movement of the bolt and it fully cycled in 12ms. However, the fact that there was a sensor attached to the bolt was slowing the bolt down, manifesting as a lower velocity (normally 290fps, dropped to 250fps). (Physics rule: you can't measure anything without affecting it).
100: So, I removed the position sensor and placed a switch at the back stroke of the bolt, so that it only hits the switch when it is fully back. I know it is going fully forward because the shot dwell was giving a full 290fps shot. With this, I increased the CPS until the back switch was no longer getting hit by the bolt. At 100 cps (10ms) the cycles were still full. at 111.11 cps (9ms), the switch was not getting hit every time, so that was not full cycles.

(sits back down)

thecavemankevin
09-25-2006, 10:55 AM
(cleqars throat and examines conversation record)



(sits back down)

i guess i should have added that my sarcasim was directed at the "no shoot-down" portion of the 100 cps comment. i can buy that 100 cps is possible, but with no shoot-down.....i call shens

Pneumagger
09-25-2006, 11:20 AM
colin also decribed the way he proved no shoot down through pressure monitoring. But I'm too lazy to go dig that up.

Remember, because it is a blow forward, the forward dwell is invariably controlled by the time it takes for the bolt to exhaust the dump chamber given his forward dwell is set at what is need for 300fps. If the dump chamber pressures react in a manner consistent with normal slow firing...then due to the design, it is not shooting down. A blow forward will fail by not resetting the bolt rather than shooting down given that you don't purposelfully decrease the forward dwell to produce inflated BPS limits. Shootdown in a blow forward is caused by the regulator not being able to keep up the dump chamber pressures at the point of actuation.

As long as the dump chamber pressure is up to snuff and the poppet dwell is the same (which they were measured to be) then there is no shootdown in the blow forward. As measured by a transducer tapped directly to the dunp chamber, his moonshine regulator was refilling the the dump chamber in 10ms (100cps) intervals.

--> this means 100 full dwell no shootdown cycles. However, this is at the cost of zero rear dwell time making it highly unrealistic to feed paint into the breech until you slow down. What the aedes will do though is allow paint to load faster and more effortlessly actually achieving rates of fire seen in drop tests - thus further blurring the line between a hoppers "on gun" and "drop" performance.

"For any given loader set up, the Aedes will throw more paint than any other gun on the market" And that is why colin can truthfully claim this.

11 Bravo
09-25-2006, 11:25 AM
So does that mean it doesnt cure illness? :confused:

Pneumagger
09-25-2006, 11:27 AM
yes, it can do that too. Until someone proves it can't cure illness...it can.

The proof is in the pudding as they. I eat my pudding, colin gives us the truths, and everybody feels happier. Sounds like some curing to me :cool:

nicad
09-25-2006, 08:18 PM
i guess i should have added that my sarcasim was directed at the "no shoot-down" portion of the 100 cps comment. i can buy that 100 cps is possible, but with no shoot-down.....i call shens PBN called.. they want their HK phrase back. ;)
10ms after the initiation of the cycle, the reg has the chamber back to full pressure. That comes to 100cps with full pressure for each shot = no shootdown

http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/moonshine/My-700psi-in-250psi-out.jpg

Pneumagger
09-25-2006, 08:48 PM
dude... I had it handled. :cuss:

;)

thecavemankevin
09-26-2006, 10:29 AM
PBN called.. they want their HK phrase back. ;)
10ms after the initiation of the cycle, the reg has the chamber back to full pressure. That comes to 100cps with full pressure for each shot = no shootdown

http://www.deadlywind.com/files/misc/moonshine/My-700psi-in-250psi-out.jpg


dude, thats totally AGG :hail: and i stand corrected. I mean either way i am still looking very much forward to this guy and hope to be one of the first to purchase one, unless of course you'd like to send a guinea pig marker to me for further testing

edit:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9373/bowdownqd2.gif

nicad
09-26-2006, 12:37 PM
edit:
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9373/bowdownqd2.gif hehe.. appreciated, but I am not to be worshiped. :)

Ydna
09-26-2006, 01:21 PM
crap......you mean it's not helping that I keep sacrificing squirells on the alter of colin?

shaunyoung000
09-26-2006, 02:33 PM
votes are in, I'll take one.
seriously, put me on preorder or something, I'll take one.
Any details on ordering? Obviously, I know that it hasn't been released.

FinchMan
09-26-2006, 06:37 PM
are you going to release the aedes and the moonshine reg at the same time?

You could probably make some good money by releasing the moonshine reg while you wait for the aedes to clear any legal/production obsticles.



Have you made any new videos yet? :rolleyes:

wooky
09-26-2006, 11:08 PM
I want one too: Dust blk and cocker threads that will do. Just tell me when and where to send the funds and give me an ETA. Thanks :dance:

You are the man :hail: :hail: :hail:

mobsterboy
09-26-2006, 11:22 PM
crap......you mean it's not helping that I keep sacrificing squirells on the alter of colin?



totally worthless post here unless we see a vid or a pic.

Nicad, so nice, "PBN called..." wow


CavemanKev, want some ice for that burn? :mad:

Tool-of-death
09-26-2006, 11:48 PM
totally worthless post here unless we see a vid or a pic.

Nicad, so nice, "PBN called..." wow


CavemanKev, want some ice for that burn? :mad:

main post there is a video, thats all we have and his little chart things.

mobsterboy
10-01-2006, 04:23 PM
main post there is a video, thats all we have and his little chart things.

i was talking about the squirrel sacrificing... :ninja:

GT
10-08-2006, 07:01 PM
subscribed for updates, back to :ninja: mode

cyrus-the-virus
10-30-2006, 03:26 AM
subscribed for updates, back to :ninja: mode

Better unsubscribe the AEDES just went the way of the hair trigger.


Deadlywind is not your typical run-of-the-mill companies. I am a tinkerer. Most of the time I post about the things that I am tinkering with, either for input or to contribute to the common knowledge for others. If what I work on shows promise of good results, then it has the possibility of becoming one of our products. Some things get re-broadcast and hyped up out of proportion with the expectation of it becoming a full product.
There are always reasons beyond my control why some things which were highly expected to make production or continue production, didn't. I don't air dirty laundry.

A solution is to go the way of the "big boys" and develop in secrete and keep everything out of public until its 100% ready to go, but then people get mad that they were kept in the dark.

Yes, the Aedes is based on an MQ valve. The recent "issues" surrounding the MQ is one of the main holdups with the Aedes progressing. I nor Deadlywind have any associations with PBX or Mel. I will not comment on any rumors or about any of the IP "issues", etc surrounding the MQ valve.

So, forget about the Aedes for now. It does not exist.... until the day it does. Someday maybe everyone can go crazy about it again-- but with it in their hands this time instead of just reading about it. :)

Colin

st6212
10-30-2006, 03:29 AM
What was the problem with the MQ valve? Production problems?

cyrus-the-virus
10-30-2006, 03:34 AM
What was the problem with the MQ valve? Production problems?

Read the quote eh?

FinchMan
10-30-2006, 05:33 AM
Better unsubscribe the AEDES just went the way of the hair trigger.

speaking of the hAir trigger, maybe Colin can pick that back up now. :p

CaptainNeeda
10-30-2006, 08:47 AM
How much for the proto-type? :shooting:

FinchMan
10-30-2006, 03:35 PM
How much for the proto-type? :shooting:

or how much for a custom if we send in a MQ valve and a board?