No Wai! - (giggles like a little school girl)

[Pneumagger]

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Yes... that's a 1/8 NPT fitting. I'm gonna assume you all know what it's for ;)

[behemoth]

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Yes... that's a 1/8 NPT fitting. I'm gonna assume you all know what it's for ;)

90 out of the asa, short run, then 90 into that?

[neppo1345]

Joe, you frighten me...

[Glickman]

glory hole!

[blamtro]

Undress that beauty and take some more pictures... ;)

[thefool]

lpr in or out? if its in then thats one slick frame. I've been wanting to do that for a while

[Pneumagger]

gonna use 2 90* microline fittings and an inch of hose.

[etjoyride]

you think you could do that to my vert? ;)

[punkncat]

Seems to me like that would be an excellent way to get air to the pneumatics stuffed inside the frame.............
is there an lpr small enough to go inside as well????

[NeoApollo]

Wah! I tried that with a pair of Hybrid grips and my inteliframe. I dremmeled the frame out and everything, but I couldn't find a regulator small enough to fit! Even when I modified a MacDev Sonic LPR (the smallest cocker LPR I could find) it wouldn't fit.

Major kudos if you've really got a inteli-pneu-frame with no exposed LPR.

[Pneumagger]

There is a FULL WORKING LPR in there as well as an MSV-2 and a MPA-3. I'm still debating on a vertical QEV placement... but I don't want to mess it up. At this point I'd figure leave well enough alone eh?

I got to finish up the hosing and then it's test time over the weekend.

[blamtro]

under gripz pikchurs plezzz!

[punkncat]

There is a FULL WORKING LPR in there as well as an MSV-2 and a MPA-3. I'm still debating on a vertical QEV placement... but I don't want to mess it up. At this point I'd figure leave well enough alone eh?

I got to finish up the hosing and then it's test time over the weekend.



:hail:

[Chronobreak]

nice work, and very sleeper ish(if they dont notice the air thru frame

[jenarelJAM]

heh, they'll probably just think it's one of those new... what'cha'ma'call'its... I forget the name...
Definately a sweet grip :clap:

[Pneumagger]

under gripz pikchurs plezzz!

here are the pre-pneumatics pictures. If some people were to see full internal pics of the modified parts... they're heads may explode.... so AO's saftey is my primary concern. Real internal pics will be up once the frame is 100% complete.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/I-Frames/Picture245.jpg

[warbeak2099]

here are the pre-pneumatics pictures. If some people were to see full internal pics of the modified parts... they're heads may explode.... so AO's saftey is my primary concern.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/I-Frames/Picture245.jpg


Good, the last thing we need is Don's head exploding. :rofl:

[Indignant]

actually... take the MSPaint off.

[Rudz]

why are you torturing us joe?

[Lenny]

There have been very few times I've used this word, but this is a case where it's the only word I can use to describe my giddiness.

"Auto-gasm"

Although I do like the look of the LPR on the asa... I assume this'll be a bolt-on, manufactured and sold by you?

(Hey, PM me about "Project EP". My rail should be in soon. With that, you can start work! Also LMK of a down payment.)

[phizz]

check here http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203655&highlight=pneumag

sorry for the thread hyjacking.

[Shingo]

Very VERY nice work... :headbang:


I got to finish up the hosing and then it's test time over the weekend.

So I take it that you'll post some killer pics on Monday... maybe a short vid or two? :D

~Shingo~




PneuMag Database updated 10-27-2006-0930 (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2195863#post2195863) :ninja:

[FiXeL]

here are the pre-pneumatics pictures. If some people were to see full internal pics of the modified parts... they're heads may explode.... so AO's saftey is my primary concern. Real internal pics will be up once the frame is 100% complete.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/I-Frames/Picture245.jpg

I would pay 10 bucks tru paypal to see the uncensored pic... and don miguel's head exploding would be a nice bonus to boot! :D

[p_aint_fun]

Where is the preorder thread? :cool:

[Pneumagger]

geez guys... it's just a hacked up WGP regulator :rolleyes:

Bolt-on preorders in a little bit (hopefully) :nododgy:

[neppo1345]

People get way too excited over these pneumag thingies...

I don't see the big deal. No batteries? WOAH

Can someone explain it to me?

[grEnAlEins]

don miguel's head exploding would be a nice bonus to boot! :D
wait till he sees the Dahliwood thread with all the vids... ;)
and I would be down for a pnueframe... how much would a pre-order run, I will need to budget myself to be sure I had the cash...

[SummaryJudgement]

SummaryJudgement <3 Pneumagger ;)

[p_aint_fun]

Bolt-on preorders in a little bit (hopefully) :nododgy:


I have my own frame I couild send in... :D

[Cow hunter]

thats freakin sweet

[spike_ball999]

People get way too excited over these pneumag thingies...

I don't see the big deal. No batteries? WOAH

Can someone explain it to me?

This may help:
http://www.arowmic.com/portals/1/dw/videos/dw.hair.trigger.video.mpg

An example of what a pneumag can do and stay completely mech.

[scion]

testing this weekend = where? I want to watch it if i can... I have a really nice digital camcorder ;)

[don miguel]

here are the pre-pneumatics pictures. If some people were to see full internal pics of the modified parts... they're heads may explode.... so AO's saftey is my primary concern. Real internal pics will be up once the frame is 100% complete.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/I-Frames/Picture245.jpg

Thanks for keeping me safe, I can always count on you.
:cheers:

[cowboy_00]

this got me thinking of making another little project gun, but before i do, the valve you use for the pneumag, does it have to be an Retro/X-valve? would a classic work?

[FinchMan]

this got me thinking of making another little project gun, but before i do, the valve you use for the pneumag, does it have to be an Retro/X-valve? would a classic work?

classic should work, but you might want to replace the classic on/off with a ULT or RT on/off to lower the pressure the MPA3 needs to push the sear.

[Shingo]

this got me thinking of making another little project gun, but before i do, the valve you use for the pneumag, does it have to be an Retro/X-valve? would a classic work?

In the PneuMag Database (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201012) there is a file called "Max_Classic.doc" that shows how to mod a classic valve. :ninja:



:shooting: :shooting: :shooting:

~Shingo~

[cowboy_00]

In the PneuMag Database (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201012) there is a file called "Max_Classic.doc" that shows how to mod a classic valve. :ninja:



:shooting: :shooting: :shooting:

~Shingo~


Friend of mine converted the files...thanks for the info,

Do give us some pictures or a cost for a drop in.

[sTaLa]

Real internal pics will be up once the frame is 100% complete.


Any news? I'm eager to see it!

[slateman]

When will it be done? And how much? :D

[Pneumagger]

I'm dropping in the pneumatics tonight. All's that's left is fitting the MPA-3 then tasting. I haven't had much free time lately, but plan on finishing this and another this week.

[WARPED1]

People get way too excited over these pneumag thingies...

I don't see the big deal. No batteries? WOAH

Can someone explain it to me?
Me either, I can just buy an RT, it's essentialy the same thing. The excess gas pushes the trigger back faster.

[geekwarrior]

Me either, I can just buy an RT, it's essentialy the same thing. The excess gas pushes the trigger back faster.

and isnt field legal....

[WARPED1]

and isnt field legal....
Will these pneu mags will be?

[stop whining buy a mag]

Will these pneu mags will be?

Yeah.

[Lenny]

Will these pneu mags will be?
I think you missed out on the whole pneumag bandwagon...

And proof read your posts once in a while...

:D

[benzy2]

People get way too excited over these pneumag thingies...

I don't see the big deal. No batteries? WOAH

Can someone explain it to me?
Say your favorite gun is mech and fairly slow when setup legally. Then say for a little bit of money and a bit of effort you could make that same gun you loved into a very fast and now competative gun. What isnt to love? Nobody expects it to rip. Everyone thinks its just a plain slow choppy mech and bam, you rip off a string at 15bps. You dont have to mess with batteries in the gun(yeah big deal so what), you dont have to deal with boards not working, eyes wires getting pinched. And most of all you have something unique that is fun. Anyone can buy an ion and put it on ramping. Some people can buy any marker out there, set it to ramp and be lighting it up. Very few "compete" with a mech. To know you have pulled together one of the best mech markers out there is totally worth it to many.

When I play with some guns there is no connection with the gun itself. My angel and promaster are two that come to mind. They just are something I carry that shoots paint. With most electros I honestly feel like the gun is what is doing the work and I just click a mouse. I havent done anything to make it better. I havent set things up well. I havent added better parts to make it mine. They are just a gun. With a homemade pneumag I pick it up and feel proud. I took this gun to its peak. I made it as good as possible. And its more than just buying parts off the shelf and putting them into the gun. Its finding a way to hide the lpr, or mount the fabco valve in a benchmark frame, or how to drill to mount the mpa3. While it is documented well it still takes effort that if done wrong could ruin your gun. And for that when it all works amazingly well it is worth all the pride in the world.

If you cant find the fun in hiding in the garage each weekend to make it better then you wont ever see the fun in it.

[WARPED1]

I think you missed out on the whole pneumag bandwagon...

And proof read your posts once in a while...

:D
I didn't miss out because I live in the 21st century. :rolleyes:

[gus13]

I didn't miss out because I live in the 21st century. :rolleyes:

So do I but I still missed out on this, how cool is that?!?! I watched that Deadlywind video and my jaw just dropped!!!! I am astounded, especially on a mech Mag! Awesome!! I heard of it but have never understood what it was about, before a feww days ago though I was completely ignorant of what a pneumag was! and here I'm thinkin' the ULT was cool! I was drooling from that! :hail:
:headbang:

[Pneumagger]

Well, this si taking alot longer than I thought. It's turning out nicely.. but even simple things seem complex. The 3way valve install that usually takes about 30 mins... took me 2.5 hours to shave and get just right. I guess tomorrow I get to finish up the MPA-3 and test the frame. :)

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[FinchMan]

wow, very slick! :hail:

[Evil Bob]

Looks great!

How are you planning on mounting the air system? I can see from the pic that you have a full screw length available on the front of the frame, but what about the rear hole where the 1/8th NPT is taking up a large part of the screw path? Is there enough there to sufficiently secure an HPA bottle without damaging the elbow or stripping the few remaining threads?

-Evil Bob

[Pneumagger]

Looks great!

How are you planning on mounting the air system? I can see from the pic that you have a full screw length available on the front of the frame, but what about the rear hole where the 1/8th NPT is taking up a large part of the screw path? Is there enough there to sufficiently secure an HPA bottle without damaging the elbow or stripping the few remaining threads?

-Evil Bob

I used to only have one screw on my bottomline for the lonest time. So 1 and 1/4 shout be plenty!

[benzy2]

Im having a bit of trouble seeing how you are going to get air into the msv2. Isnt the side where the tickler is touching the side you need to put barbs in? I dont see how this is going to get air. Im sure you have a way but I just dont see it.

[shaunyoung000]

OMFG, pneumagger, how much to do this to my rpg?

[Shingo]

Pneumagger... you need a better digital camera. Those images look harsh. or maybe you should turn ON the macro lens function if you're taking such close pics. DETAIL... I WANT TO SEE DETAIL! :D

Nice work regardless. Looking forward to seeing the finished frame.

~Shingo~

[Pneumagger]

Im having a bit of trouble seeing how you are going to get air into the msv2. Isnt the side where the tickler is touching the side you need to put barbs in? I dont see how this is going to get air. Im sure you have a way but I just dont see it.

The air input holes to the MSV are on the top of that particular 3 way. I just carefully ground out the excess "meat" from the 3way. So the output hose will only be like 1"-2" long and ther'll be no inefficient long hosing.


Pneumagger... you need a better digital camera. Those images look harsh. or maybe you should turn ON the macro lens function if you're taking such close pics. DETAIL... I WANT TO SEE DETAIL!

Sorry... I only have a $20 webcam. But last year I bought my girlfriend a 5MP Kodak and a Handheld sized Panasonic MiniDV.... which I am not allowed to use (especially in the viscinity or paintball) :mad: :mad: :cuss: :shooting:

[warbeak2099]

Sorry... I only have a $20 webcam. But last year I bought my girlfriend a 5MP Kodak and a Handheld sized Panasonic MiniDV.... which I am not allowed to use (especially in the viscinity or paintball) :mad: :mad: :cuss: :shooting:

Why is it that once you give them the gift, it becomes off limits to you. You spent the money on it, you put the thought and effort into it, they can't share it! Lol, I will always buy my gf things that I'd never want to use. That way... oh wait... of course there are things you can both use... Muwaahahahahahahahaha:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/warbeak2099/aosexualinuendo.jpg

[behemoth]

Why is it that once you give them the gift, it becomes off limits to you. You spent the money on it, you put the thought and effort into it, they can't share it! Lol, I will always buy my gf things that I'd never want to use. That way... oh wait... of course there are things you can both use... Muwaahahahahahahahaha:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/warbeak2099/aosexualinuendo.jpg

hey, its ron jeremy!

(please, dont bring your love-life to AO.)

[benzy2]

The air input holes to the MSV are on the top of that particular 3 way. I just carefully ground out the excess "meat" from the 3way. So the output hose will only be like 1"-2" long and ther'll be no inefficient long hosing.
Did you special order it that way or modify it? I thought the air ports were all supposed to be away from the lever. The body of the faboc msv2 has a hole in it so you could mount the lever either way but I have just never seen them that way.

[Empyreal Rogue]

So that's what you were telling me about.

Looks great Pneu. Really nice looking work.

PM'ing you now. :P

[Pneumagger]

Did you special order it that way or modify it? I thought the air ports were all supposed to be away from the lever. The body of the faboc msv2 has a hole in it so you could mount the lever either way but I have just never seen them that way.

I think I've done a few frames this way... including my own. Just makes routing hoses easier. here is a pick of my internals: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Black%20Widow/100_1558.jpg
Notice the hoses out the top of the 3 way. All you gotta do is "flip" the lever. Easier sad than done. I acually messed up the lever on the intelliframe and had to canoballize another MSV-2 :cry: Now I only have a spare MSV-1.

[StygShore]

Couldn't you take the end of the tickler reg down a bit to make it shorter and the fit better?

I have never really seen those, so I dont know the construction all that well, but couldn't you shave a bit off the end, or change out the knob for something shorter?


Styg

[Pneumagger]

Not really... Maybe a 1/16" max :confused:
The knob is hollow and internally threaded. Sort of like a little cup over the end that contains the spring. Shave off too much and the bottom of the cup dissapears.

I ened up cutting the 1/8 NPT thread on it in half and retapping (bottomtapping) and redieing the threads so they can screw all the way together. then I shaved down the nut that the Tickler sits on so it could set down into the notch I made in the I frame. Other than using an end mill to remove the bulk of the Intelliframe material... everything was then shaved with the dremmel for a nice fit. Next time I may try shortening the Elbow to give me more bottom ASA threading to work with.

This is just one small step in the battle against the LPR. Next step: LPRless Pneumag- stay tuned in... ;)

[FinchMan]

Not really... Maybe a 1/16" max :confused:
The knob is hollow and internally threaded. Sort of like a little cup over the end that contains the spring. Shave off too much and the bottom of the cup dissapears.

I ened up cutting the 1/8 NPT thread on it in half and retapping (bottomtapping) and redieing the threads so they can screw all the way together. then I shaved down the nut that the Tickler sits on so it could set down into the notch I made in the I frame. Other than using an end mill to remove the bulk of the Intelliframe material... everything was then shaved with the dremmel for a nice fit. Next time I may try shortening the Elbow to give me more bottom ASA threading to work with.

This is just one small step in the battle against the LPR. Next step: LPRless Pneumag- stay tuned in... ;)

LPR-less, that would be something to see. :D

[phill7]

hey pnuemagger, who ever owns that sure is lucky! ;)

And thanks again it looks great. I'm gonna pee my pants.

[Pneumagger]

I can outshoot the Classic Valve pretty easily... And that's with level 7 bolt and Rt on/off. If it had a ULT Xvalve... it would be distgusting. But it still rips up to about 12-13 before shooting down. :shooting:

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[m-a-r-k-7]

That's very nice pneu.

[slateman]

So w hen do I get one? :D

[Pneumagger]

It's neat and all... but after doing all that work and all the cramming of crap into it, I think it's easier to stick the LPR on the bottom ASA for a "bolt on" setup. Or just stick it out front.

Now if I made a mini hardline setup to get air there instead of bulky airlines.... it would be better looking IMO.