MoeMag
11-13-2006, 01:52 AM
So the whole thing started last night...
I never play at the main place to play around just because everyone there knows me from working at the paintball store, and everyone thinks I'm always working. Which is fine, I am more than glad to help someone out having problems with their gun.
Anyway last night at the shop we were unusually slow because of the holiday NASCAR (By the way that had traffic backed up a half a hours drive away from the track) and a Cardinals football game. (I have never seen so many accidents on one freeway in my life... damn drunk tailgaters). Well standard policy that is posted with big signs everywhere in the shop "all gun repairs brought in on Fridays or Saturdays must be left". Well because it was slow I worked on this fellas gun cause he was going out playing the next day. So anyways he was really happy and dropped me a big tip.
So what do I decide… easy come easy go. Everyone in the shop just got all their ’07 dye gear from world cup in Orlando, so they all were going to play at the field (referred to as 23bps). I’m usually too cheap to actually pay to go paintball, so I never go there, but with that tip I said okay I’m going to go play.
Get there at 8 and pay my entry fee. While I’m waiting on the other fellas from the shop to arrive, every paintballer in the state it seems shows up, and yeah they all know me. So 8:30 I get a guy with a messed up shocker… well Predator boards suck (if you don’t agree with that, well that’s okay, but this board was *poo) anyways… about 10:00 or so I call it quits on the shocker board is fried, SOL. So our main guy is still not there, so we decide to skip on wasting paint on the speedball field until he shows up… so off to recball field we go. What do I do… drop my ego and grab my mag with a revvy. BOLT LEAK! Okay so instead of messing with the lvl 10 in middle of the dirt parking lot I swap valves from my e-mag to my RT that I was using. HOLY PAINT CHOP AND BOLT JAM batman, after dropping an RT stream (its still stuck). So I go grab my ego… I hate how that thing shoots. The trajectory off an ego is in the ground 30 ft away in a 15 ft diameter circle (06 ego, hardshell bolt and Ti rammer, DW whisper barrel w/ correct size insert) Vs. the Mag that was straight as an arrow and actually hits the nets on the far side! Word… I suppose there is something to be said about a spooler… okay fine blow forward.
So I get my ego going and we get on deck… and wait half an hour to get on their NPPL OC spyder field because of the other 90 or so people there. I make it their 40… drop 4 pods and a hopper, all the while my back players quest starts blending paint like an ICEE machine.
Well I had to be somewhere at 1 so I left around noon having only played 1 rec ball game, jamming my gun, and 1 speedball game with a gun that for the price I am disappointed in its performance (maintenance is still awesome though.)
What is it about paintball guns that make them shoot so differently from each other?
The Ego Is an awesome gun to shoot, Its so fast and reliable. I put the hardshell bolt in it, and noticed an increase in efficiency, which was great, but day to day all I do is chrono guns over a distance of 20 ft in the back of the shop. So I don’t get to see the long-range characteristics of paintballs flight. So I bought an ego on the fact they are never in the shop getting worked on, they are really fast, and efficient… what more could you ask for?
Well out on the field this new more efficient bolt, it had even worse flight than the stock bolt it seemed.
Is it the whole low-pressure thing? I mean yeah you get the same ball velocity out of any gun... 300fps. But because of the low pressure and less air usage is there less "umph" pushing the ball?
I haven’t been playing much in the past year, it seemed like at the field everyone had what was two years ago, considered the uber rich high ends. I got hit, with a quest, in the hand holding my gun, and it just felt like the ball just landed on my hand and broke. I remember getting hit in the hand and having to sit out a few games because you were not sure if you broke your fingers.
What’s going on? Are we merely concerned with efficiency and speed, and give a crap about flight dynamics? I don’t care what anyone says, there is something going on that gun designers are ignoring.
Modern guns are like shooting shotguns, one ball of shot at a time, thus why high ROF helps makes up for that.
I don’t know how many of you paintballers shoot, but I picked up a shotgun for the first time not too long ago and because of paintball, I was awesome at skeet shooting my first time out. One of my friends that got me into paintballing did the same thing and won a skeet shooting contest the first time he was out with his church group... even won a John Deere tractor hat :rolleyes:
Sure a shotgun is good for close combat, but that just doesn’t match the American precision one shot one kill attitude… what’s the #1 noob mentality, Sniper. Maybe there is something to that.
If that means that I would have to buy a box of 50 paintball bullets… instead of a 15 pound box of #68 shot, to shoot through a gun with decent trajectory I would do it.
I was shooting Ultra Evil RPS from NPPL OC and a case of Proto, so its not that I was using cheap paint or bad barrels… cause I wasn’t. Throughout the day I tried my DW whisper (proto was running 691 and evil was 689), .688 boomstick, .689 cp, and then finally thinking the whisper barrel might be the culprit I tried my freak barrel… all with similar results. The ego dropped and the mag went like a dart.
Well I guess I just did a good job of nailing every bad aspect of paintball equipment.
End rant.
I never play at the main place to play around just because everyone there knows me from working at the paintball store, and everyone thinks I'm always working. Which is fine, I am more than glad to help someone out having problems with their gun.
Anyway last night at the shop we were unusually slow because of the holiday NASCAR (By the way that had traffic backed up a half a hours drive away from the track) and a Cardinals football game. (I have never seen so many accidents on one freeway in my life... damn drunk tailgaters). Well standard policy that is posted with big signs everywhere in the shop "all gun repairs brought in on Fridays or Saturdays must be left". Well because it was slow I worked on this fellas gun cause he was going out playing the next day. So anyways he was really happy and dropped me a big tip.
So what do I decide… easy come easy go. Everyone in the shop just got all their ’07 dye gear from world cup in Orlando, so they all were going to play at the field (referred to as 23bps). I’m usually too cheap to actually pay to go paintball, so I never go there, but with that tip I said okay I’m going to go play.
Get there at 8 and pay my entry fee. While I’m waiting on the other fellas from the shop to arrive, every paintballer in the state it seems shows up, and yeah they all know me. So 8:30 I get a guy with a messed up shocker… well Predator boards suck (if you don’t agree with that, well that’s okay, but this board was *poo) anyways… about 10:00 or so I call it quits on the shocker board is fried, SOL. So our main guy is still not there, so we decide to skip on wasting paint on the speedball field until he shows up… so off to recball field we go. What do I do… drop my ego and grab my mag with a revvy. BOLT LEAK! Okay so instead of messing with the lvl 10 in middle of the dirt parking lot I swap valves from my e-mag to my RT that I was using. HOLY PAINT CHOP AND BOLT JAM batman, after dropping an RT stream (its still stuck). So I go grab my ego… I hate how that thing shoots. The trajectory off an ego is in the ground 30 ft away in a 15 ft diameter circle (06 ego, hardshell bolt and Ti rammer, DW whisper barrel w/ correct size insert) Vs. the Mag that was straight as an arrow and actually hits the nets on the far side! Word… I suppose there is something to be said about a spooler… okay fine blow forward.
So I get my ego going and we get on deck… and wait half an hour to get on their NPPL OC spyder field because of the other 90 or so people there. I make it their 40… drop 4 pods and a hopper, all the while my back players quest starts blending paint like an ICEE machine.
Well I had to be somewhere at 1 so I left around noon having only played 1 rec ball game, jamming my gun, and 1 speedball game with a gun that for the price I am disappointed in its performance (maintenance is still awesome though.)
What is it about paintball guns that make them shoot so differently from each other?
The Ego Is an awesome gun to shoot, Its so fast and reliable. I put the hardshell bolt in it, and noticed an increase in efficiency, which was great, but day to day all I do is chrono guns over a distance of 20 ft in the back of the shop. So I don’t get to see the long-range characteristics of paintballs flight. So I bought an ego on the fact they are never in the shop getting worked on, they are really fast, and efficient… what more could you ask for?
Well out on the field this new more efficient bolt, it had even worse flight than the stock bolt it seemed.
Is it the whole low-pressure thing? I mean yeah you get the same ball velocity out of any gun... 300fps. But because of the low pressure and less air usage is there less "umph" pushing the ball?
I haven’t been playing much in the past year, it seemed like at the field everyone had what was two years ago, considered the uber rich high ends. I got hit, with a quest, in the hand holding my gun, and it just felt like the ball just landed on my hand and broke. I remember getting hit in the hand and having to sit out a few games because you were not sure if you broke your fingers.
What’s going on? Are we merely concerned with efficiency and speed, and give a crap about flight dynamics? I don’t care what anyone says, there is something going on that gun designers are ignoring.
Modern guns are like shooting shotguns, one ball of shot at a time, thus why high ROF helps makes up for that.
I don’t know how many of you paintballers shoot, but I picked up a shotgun for the first time not too long ago and because of paintball, I was awesome at skeet shooting my first time out. One of my friends that got me into paintballing did the same thing and won a skeet shooting contest the first time he was out with his church group... even won a John Deere tractor hat :rolleyes:
Sure a shotgun is good for close combat, but that just doesn’t match the American precision one shot one kill attitude… what’s the #1 noob mentality, Sniper. Maybe there is something to that.
If that means that I would have to buy a box of 50 paintball bullets… instead of a 15 pound box of #68 shot, to shoot through a gun with decent trajectory I would do it.
I was shooting Ultra Evil RPS from NPPL OC and a case of Proto, so its not that I was using cheap paint or bad barrels… cause I wasn’t. Throughout the day I tried my DW whisper (proto was running 691 and evil was 689), .688 boomstick, .689 cp, and then finally thinking the whisper barrel might be the culprit I tried my freak barrel… all with similar results. The ego dropped and the mag went like a dart.
Well I guess I just did a good job of nailing every bad aspect of paintball equipment.
End rant.