Need some info on this AGD oldie

[going_home]

Valve # 390 . Looks like its a level 5.
The marker actually looks almost in new condition.
The rail has a small bit of wear from the stainless air line.
That stuff is crap in my opinion for that very reason. But I digress.
Oh and check out the vintage mask with only front protection.
And the trigger frame with no allen screw holding the safety assembly in.
Its held in by the rail only.

Heres a bunch of pics:

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0033.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0032.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0031.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0030.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0029.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0028.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0027.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0026.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0025.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0024.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0023.jpg

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0022.jpg

I am sending this to Mr. Kaye. Hopefully he can fill me in on this markers history.
Thanks

[master_alexander]

1) its old
2) keep it!

i had emag valve 240... that was sexy. amazing. but i got rid of it... i shouldnt have, but i did.

[SR_matt]

there was another thread like this a few weeks ago about the same type of gun actualy, IIRC it was a very early micro mag, a sticker was used with bead blasting and then removed to have the shinny/matte parts.

-matt

[Dewok82]

Yeah I picked up an oldie and had a few questions. Thread Link (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205623)

Yours is the 290th Automag made. Take a look at the powertube and see if it is an original Level 5. Check HERE (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161698) for the differences.

[don miguel]

Nice, is it level 5? post some nternal pics! oh yeah my friend hates you, he says you always outbid him on ebay. :cheers:

[going_home]

Nice, is it level 5? post some nternal pics! oh yeah my friend hates you, he says you always outbid him on ebay. :cheers:

New pics posted.
It was on Ebay for less than an hour when I saw it. :D

[shorty24]

While it looks like a pretty old mag, I'm pretty sure it's NOT a lvl 5. The power tube tip is wrong, the original lvl 5s had barrels with a separate rear area that the ball dropped through from the feed (as opposed to the chamber being part of the barrel itself), and the springs were made of round wire, not square wire like seen in your pictures.

[Dewok82]

Looks like a level 7 to me. It seems like the power tube tip is soldered on, which is characteristic of a level 7.

The level 5 is the one on top:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/studley192/opentop.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/studley192/valves.jpg

Also, the barrel has the "feed hole" in it, which is level 7.

Level 5 barrel is the one on top:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y188/studley192/barrelcompare.jpg

Still a nice looking marker, but I really doubt it is a level 5

[AGD]

NOT a 5, upgraded to 6.5 from 5.1

AGD

[going_home]

$1 of shrink wrap and your golden. Stainless is the best airline available.

Ever hear of someones stainless line blowing up? Exactly. :hail:

AGD has always been about safety first.

1) I've never had black macroline blow out EVER and I use 1000 psi input
2) Macroline doesnt scratch anything
3) Macroline doesnt need shrinkwrap tubing
4) Black macroline has 1000 psi working pressure (3000 psi burst) and is as safe as it gets

Stainless is NOT the best airline available, now.
Once upon a time it was, but now we are in 2006.

[MoeMag]

Wow. I still sell those JT masks.

[AGD]

1) I've never had black macroline blow out EVER and I use 1000 psi input
2) Macroline doesnt scratch anything
3) Macroline doesnt need shrinkwrap tubing
4) Black macroline has 1000 psi working pressure (3000 psi burst) and is as safe as it gets

Stainless is NOT the best airline available, now.
Once upon a time it was, but now we are in 2006.

1. Its blown apart into fragments on many people over the years.
4. The line maybe rated but did you ever ask how high the fittings it goes into are rated?

Anyone in a serious industrial situation uses stainless lines. Sure macro is cheap and convenient but its certainly NOT as safe as it gets.

AGD

[NoLifeLeft]

Ever hear of someones stainless line blowing up?

Actually, yeah. I've seen it first hand.

I used to run my Mag at 1200psi through GOOD macro with no worries.

These days the two are fairly equal.

[RogueFactor]

1) I've never had black macroline blow out EVER and I use 1000 psi input
2) Macroline doesnt scratch anything
3) Macroline doesnt need shrinkwrap tubing
4) Black macroline has 1000 psi working pressure (3000 psi burst) and is as safe as it gets

1) Well, I guess you can tell everyone who has had it blow on them that youve never had it blow on you, and that it must not have happened to them:rolleyes:
2) Neither does shrink-wrapped stainless.
4) Stainless line is rated higher, and is as safe as it gets.
5) Macro is effected by UV, and degrades with expsoure(sun).
6) Macro is very susceptable to heat sources, and is temperature rated because its working pressure is effected by heat.
7) Macro is susceptable to impact.

So unless you plan on
-not using it in the sun,
-or around anything that may be heated by the sun(like laying a marker on a car hood),
-or having it hit anything hard,
-or use it with CO2 on a hot day that can spike in pressure above its working pressure

... then Stainless>Macro.

Stainless FTW. :D


Stainless is NOT the best airline available, now.
Once upon a time it was, but now we are in 2006.

Contrary to your belief, it is. Even in 2006. Please refer to Tom's previous statement :cool:

About the only advantage of Macro over stainless Ive found is the ability to cut it to size.

[behemoth]

About the only advantage of Macro over stainless Ive found is the ability to cut it to size.

That and when degassed, works as a QD.

/hates taking off braided lines
//seriously

[hardr0ck68]

I had macro line blow on me. It was "the good stuff" or at least i was told so. I had the marker by my head when it went (firing my 2 clearing shots before chrono...). It felt like a freight train hit my head, my ear wasent right for 2 days i almost went to a doc. I know i couldent play at my ushual level becuase i couldent hear out of my left ear for the rest of the tourny.

When I think of all the crazy stuff i did to get every ounce of performance and advantage out of myself and gear, running macro line was a silly choice.

[Raven001]

Just thought I'd point out that your hopper is put together backwards. The end piece should go where the cap is and vice versa.

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/?action=view&current=DSC_0033.jpg

but it is monday and I could be wrong