co2 pressure.

[FARMER00]

if i got a tank reg would i beable to put it on a 20oz co2 tank to run hpa or is a co2 tank to weak?

[Geoff Call]

if i got a tank reg would i beable to put it on a 20oz co2 tank to run hpa or is a co2 tank to weak?

I'm pretty sure the co2 cylinder is only rated for about 1800psi. Great if you want to blow up your friends. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

[spike_ball999]

Don't try to modify any air system like that. This is what will happen:

http://www.quab.ca/images/angus_port/boboblong3.jpg

You'll turn into a cartoon.

If you really want a regulator for your CO2, use one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CMI-INLINE-R-2000-REGULATOR-WITH-GAUGE_W0QQitemZ190055232314QQihZ009QQcategoryZ8711 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[Lenny]

^^ That reg adds "only 23/4 inches to your system..."

I lol'd.

[Pneumagger]

you can if you only fill to 1800 psi. Youll have to swap the burst disk though.

For the record... a Co2 tank will hold 3000psi with negligable permanent deformation. This is the hydrostat pressure for a CO2 Cylinder.

[Geoff Call]

you can if you only fill to 1800 psi. Youll have to swap the burst disk though.

For the record... a Co2 tank will hold 3000psi with negligable permanent deformation. This is the hydrostat pressure for a CO2 Cylinder.

A loud pop followed by a lifetime of silence.

I do recall that most c02 bottles these days are being shipped with 3k burst disks instead of the standard 1800. So you are correct sir.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Don't try to modify any air system like that. This is what will happen:

http://www.quab.ca/images/angus_port/boboblong3.jpg

You'll turn into a cartoon.

If you really want a regulator for your CO2, use one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CMI-INLINE-R-2000-REGULATOR-WITH-GAUGE_W0QQitemZ190055232314QQihZ009QQcategoryZ8711 9QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


You can safely put an HPA reg on a Co2 tank as long as you follow the rated pressure of the bottle. Why everyone thinks they will explode is beyond me, If you dont follow basic saftey rules ANY hpa/Co2 tank is dangerous. I trust Co2 tanks more, because HPA tanks are pretty much filled too fast these days and the temp of the bottle gets hotter than D.O.T. says it should. Co2 tanks, are more forgiving, being solid aluminum. Everyone needs to realize that some of the first air systems had ALUMINUM 1800psi tanks.

Heres something to think about, there hasnt been a catastrophic failure of a Co2 bottle or an HPA tank (That I know of). There has been issues with the reg snapping off, Valve unscrewing, and adding oil and blowing the reg off the tank, but the tank themselves have NOT failed. Those incidents were ALL user error. I have seen maybe 6 tanks fail hydro (not saying thats all for evrywhere, just my experiance), thats it. Tanks are much safer than many of the uninformed people go posting about.

It is best to find a qualified and knowledgable airsmith to install it for you though, thats just common sense.

Also, those CMI regs dont work worth squat, stay away from them.

Shane-O

[spike_ball999]

You can safely put an HPA reg on a Co2 tank as long as you follow the rated pressure of the bottle. Why everyone thinks they will explode is beyond me, If you dont follow basic saftey rules ANY hpa/Co2 tank is dangerous. I trust Co2 tanks more, because HPA tanks are pretty much filled too fast these days and the temp of the bottle gets hotter than D.O.T. says it should. Co2 tanks, are more forgiving, being solid aluminum. Everyone needs to realize that some of the first air systems had ALUMINUM 1800psi tanks.

Heres something to think about, there hasnt been a catastrophic failure of a Co2 bottle or an HPA tank (That I know of). There has been issues with the reg snapping off, Valve unscrewing, and adding oil and blowing the reg off the tank, but the tank themselves have NOT failed. Those incidents were ALL user error. I have seen maybe 6 tanks fail hydro (not saying thats all for evrywhere, just my experiance), thats it. Tanks are much safer than many of the uninformed people go posting about.

It is best to find a qualified and knowledgable airsmith to install it for you though, thats just common sense.

Also, those CMI regs dont work worth squat, stay away from them.

Shane-O

Yay! I've been proven wrong!

Thanks for the information. So now I have a question. The aluminum co2 tanks are up to 1800psi, right? Then what is the psi rating of a steel co2 tank?

[Pneumagger]

read the DOT code on the tank. Most likely the same if it's only rated for Co2...

[SR_matt]

if you want a small hpa tank they make 13ci and 22 ci tanks but they are only 3000 psi. look on wevopaintball.com if you are interested
-matt

[Raven001]

if i got a tank reg would i beable to put it on a 20oz co2 tank to run hpa or is a co2 tank to weak?

If you want a cheap HP air solution and you don't plan on shooting a lot of paint, then you might try this

http://www.canadianpaintball.com/main/air/centerflag.htm

p.s. that's in canadain prices and they have an outlet in T.O.

did your mag arrive yet?

[FARMER00]

If you want a cheap HP air solution and you don't plan on shooting a lot of paint, then you might try this

http://www.canadianpaintball.com/main/air/centerflag.htm

p.s. that's in canadain prices and they have an outlet in T.O.

did your mag arrive yet?
yeah i got it. and thanks for the link

[SR_matt]

may i ask how many shots you want to get off of a tank? that might help people point in you the best direction

-matt

[FARMER00]

no i dont really care about how many shots i can get im just trying to be really cheap and not dump a load of money into HPA

[MANN]

just buy a cheap 48 3k. You can usually find them for 40-50ish

[Pneumagger]

by the time you get a large 20oz tank and a reg, you could of gotten a cheap ebay 48/3000 for around $50. That will be your best route and cheapest way to 1000.

[Sir_Brass]

You can easilly get a steel 72/3k for about $60-ish.

That's about how much my 72/3k steel PMI tank was.

[Beemer]

if i got a tank reg would i beable to put it on a 20oz co2 tank to run hpa or is a co2 tank to weak?

no i dont really care about how many shots i can get im just trying to be really cheap and not dump a load of money into HPA



Heres the right answer NO NO NO NO. :nono: If it says Co2 on the tank then thats what its for. If it says HPA 3000 or 4500psi then thats what its for. Get a tank and reg that is rated for what you want to use it for. You cant put 10gigs on a 5gig hard drive. you cant put 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound bag. Get it yet? If its not rated for what you want to do with it DONT DO IT. Its called safety FIRST.

You want to be cheap, SAFE or DEAD?




You can safely put an HPA reg on a Co2 tank as long as you follow the rated pressure of the bottle. Why everyone thinks they will explode is beyond me, If you dont follow basic saftey rules ANY hpa/Co2 tank is dangerous. I trust Co2 tanks more, because HPA tanks are pretty much filled too fast these days and the temp of the bottle gets hotter than D.O.T. says it should. Co2 tanks, are more forgiving, being solid aluminum. Everyone needs to realize that some of the first air systems had ALUMINUM 1800psi tanks.

Heres something to think about, there hasnt been a catastrophic failure of a Co2 bottle or an HPA tank (That I know of). There has been issues with the reg snapping off, Valve unscrewing, and adding oil and blowing the reg off the tank, but the tank themselves have NOT failed. Those incidents were ALL user error. I have seen maybe 6 tanks fail hydro (not saying thats all for evrywhere, just my experiance), thats it. Tanks are much safer than many of the uninformed people go posting about.
It is best to find a qualified and knowledgable airsmith to install it for you though, thats just common sense.

Also, those CMI regs dont work worth squat, stay away from them.

Shane-O

Ya you could. But paintball is stupid. Then when it blows from a 3000 or 4500psi fill you will hear, oh crap I forgot or didnt know the tank was 1800psi. or you wont hear anything at all.

Tanks arent safe when they get in the hands of uneducated uninformed useres that dont know the safety rules.

Heres one for all of ya so you know. This was Co2 not HPA.

Sometime around Sept. of 05

Vid here, http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/CO2TankFailure.wmv 4.5meg.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Tank1.jpg

to add.... here is the link to the original thread here on AO
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183177

Peace Out