Impulse

[txaggie08]

OK, aside from weight(wich could be fixed with a mill(or aftermarket body), and the fact it's not the "new toy" on the market, Is there anything physicaly limiting about the desing of the imp versus something like a borg or timmy?

I just got done servicing mine, I just dont see the big difference. When i look at that, then get on ebay and start looking at parts, it makes me seriously consider upgrading my imp and not spending the 300+ to get a new gun im STILL going to want upgrades on!


Someone wnat to talk me out of it?

[Triangle]

Pay me half of that and I'll make a video of me dancing for you in my underwear.

[txaggie08]

Only if your a female between 18 and about 25, are attractive, and are willing to perform other services.....

[turbo chicken]

i have shot a few imps .. on one of them everything that could be milled was ... and nothing in the inside was stock ... it shot just as good as any other electro i have had handled...

if that's what you want go for it ...

[BigEvil]

Arent IMPs the kings of FSDO?

[txaggie08]

I think an LPR solves that problem for the most part. I do know there bad about it(I beleive the imp is were the idea of FSDO, and how to fix it, REALY took off)

[buzzboy]

My friend has/had two. With just some milling/trigger work this thing shoots just as nice as any other stacked tube rammer with the ecception of a few. As for FSDO, if you have a good board it should get rid of that fine.

[txaggie08]

I just look at guns like that PL strange thats in B/S/T, and I've played with mine so much, I think it's going to make a nice sidekick for my E-mag.


Basicaly, I'm building it for a dual role. I need a decent Backup/loaner gun(lots of friends with the "no gun, want to play" syndrome), and I need something a tad easier on air for when we play away from fields(wich happens alot). I have a scuba tank now, but if seveal folks are using it....well, I need something that doesnt use as much gas and will shoot veruy deep into the tank.

[wimag]

Get a Blackheart board, tapeworm for FSDO, and you are done. You do not even need an LPR. All the other add ons arent worth the time or money.
Great marker. Glad i did not get rid of mine.

[txaggie08]

I think, if what logic's store says is right, he still has vert frames.

If so, one of them is mine!!!!! That was one thing making me waffle on not trying to get something else, i realy wanted a gun with an IR3 style frame.

Honestly i might be able to get the lpr cheaper than the tapeworm, but ill grab whatever i can get. The blacheart board im seeing says it works in ions as well? is that correct? This imp is vision, will I need to look into a clean body for BB eyes to make it work?

[wimag]

I think, if what logic's store says is right, he still has vert frames.

If so, one of them is mine!!!!! That was one thing making me waffle on not trying to get something else, i realy wanted a gun with an IR3 style frame.

Honestly i might be able to get the lpr cheaper than the tapeworm, but ill grab whatever i can get. The blacheart board im seeing says it works in ions as well? is that correct? This imp is vision, will I need to look into a clean body for BB eyes to make it work?

If you imp is vision ready then you are good to go. Just drop it in. They have blackheart boards for Imps, Ions and Shockers.

[SR_matt]

well its another stacked tube electro pneumatic so it fits in a very large category.

my friend had a strange factory impulse (i think it was a strage factory), and he got it to run at 45 psi at the valve. it shot well.

but i have seen a lot of problems with them. ive seen the hammer/ram (dont know what the piece is called but its the long piece that is a cylinder that has larger rings/cylinders on it) got snaped clean in half during cycling. the triggers bounce verry easily (making it harder to be tourney leagle). they have bad first shot drop off.

the impulse wont cycle as fast or as efficently as a timmy/borg/angle just be casue of the size and weight of the reciprocating mass.

you coudl always sell you imp and then buy a used angel/timmy/etc and have better preformance IMHO
-matt

[txaggie08]

I'm trying to get away from having to sell the gun, just to spend all the cash to get another one, then still not have the upgrades I want(wich im not going to be able to get for what this one will sell for + what i have.). I think the imp will do, especialy if i can find upgrades used cheaply for it.

[SR_matt]

with used guns you can usually get the gun with a lot if not all the upgrades you would want.

from seeing my team mates go through literaly all of the big name gun types on the market i would say angel, timmies, aka guns, borgs are all much better guns and you can get some of them for pretty cheap used while still being in great condition.
-matt

[punkncat]

32* Imps air passages weren't milled as large as the "stock" ones, so there were some starvation problems at high ROF. I have heard that some of the really early stock bodies had this same problem. With the addition of a good LPR it takes care of most of the common problems with the marker, including FSDO, and the bolt stick...also eliminated with a tapeworm. I am not completly sure, but I think the WAS board has a dwell fix for the FSDO. I can't remember what they call it.

There are lots of parts, a great deal of which do nothing, and some which actually cause problems. CoolHand knows quite a bit about them. I think YDNA has an info and tech forum dedicated to them.

Performance wise they are fully capable of keeping up with any legal shooting electro-pneumatic. If you like it and are comfortable shooting it, why would you want anything else?

[Triangle]

Only if your a female between 18 and about 25, are attractive, and are willing to perform other services.....

I'm not THAT kind of girl.


32* Imps air passages weren't milled as large as the "stock" ones, so there were some starvation problems at high ROF. I have heard that some of the really early stock bodies had this same problem. With the addition of a good LPR it takes care of most of the common problems with the marker, including FSDO, and the bolt stick...also eliminated with a tapeworm. I am not completly sure, but I think the WAS board has a dwell fix for the FSDO. I can't remember what they call it.

There are lots of parts, a great deal of which do nothing, and some which actually cause problems. CoolHand knows quite a bit about them. I think YDNA has an info and tech forum dedicated to them.

Performance wise they are fully capable of keeping up with any legal shooting electro-pneumatic. If you like it and are comfortable shooting it, why would you want anything else?

You should have seen the Imp Coolhand used to to have. Hopefully he'll post here and toss some info.

The Few imps I had (stock or otherwise) performed pretty nicely, despite my unwillingness to learn to break down a new marker. It would shoot as fast as I could pull the trigger, and turned into a nice loaner before I gave it away. It's funny how the height of the marker didn't bother me at all, but I can't stand stand the height of a cyborg.

If anyone hasn't posted it yet, SP sucks.

[txaggie08]

I just have to send the money of to loic to get myself a vert frame :D. After that i think a board and LPR/tapeworm and ill be happy with it for now(also have to get my feedneck back)

[Triangle]

I just have to send the money of to loic to get myself a vert frame :D. After that i think a board and LPR/tapeworm and ill be happy with it for now(also have to get my feedneck back)

I don't know if Ryan has anymore Imp/shocker frames. The last thing I heard mentioned was that YDNA bought off the last of his shocker/imp frames.

[txaggie08]

I realise this, I shot one of the impulses that the feednecks fell of of back in the day(wasnt mine obviously....). However, for a hundred dollar investment this gun isn bad, and i prefer it to an ion.


And before anyone has a coniption fit i'll say why. It is machined better that the ion, And I like the poppit platform better than the spool system the ion uses. Just my preference.

[txaggie08]

I don't know if Ryan has anymore Imp/shocker frames. The last thing I heard mentioned was that YDNA bought off the last of his shocker/imp frames.


I already have the money request, I just have to check the old account balance. I emailed him this monring, he still has some in raw.

[Triangle]

I realise this, I shot one of the impulses that the feednecks fell of of back in the day(wasnt mine obviously....). However, for a hundred dollar investment this gun isn bad, and i prefer it to an ion.


And before anyone has a coniption fit i'll say why. It is machined better that the ion, And I like the poppit platform better than the spool system the ion uses. Just my preference.

Don't let anyone get you down for your choice of marker.
Half of the time when these sucker's are bashing up'd ions or DM's or whatever else, theyre more than likely jealous that they couldn't afford one, or dont have one.

Whatever you feel comfortable shooting and ultimately enjoy, will be 'the best' marker.


I already have the money request, I just have to check the old account balance. I emailed him this monring, he still has some in raw.


Sweet, grab it ASAP.

[punkncat]

You should have seen the Imp Coolhand used to to have. Hopefully he'll post here and toss some info.

The Few imps I had (stock or otherwise) performed pretty nicely, despite my unwillingness to learn to break down a new marker. It would shoot as fast as I could pull the trigger, and turned into a nice loaner before I gave it away. It's funny how the height of the marker didn't bother me at all, but I can't stand stand the height of a cyborg.

If anyone hasn't posted it yet, SP sucks.

Coolhand gave me some solid info about an old Amber light board I have. I wanted one of his vert frames for a shocker I had all of 15 seconds, but alas they were no more.

I think most of the not shooting as fast comes from poor trigger setup. Assuredly stock, but even many aftermarket triggers for the Imp. Didn't help it having a small trigger guard either.

[Triangle]

Coolhand gave me some solid info about an old Amber light board I have. I wanted one of his vert frames for a shocker I had all of 15 seconds, but alas they were no more.

I think most of the not shooting as fast comes from poor trigger setup. Assuredly stock, but even many aftermarket triggers for the Imp. Didn't help it having a small trigger guard either.

I dunno about the trigger guard size. I've got some big honkin' fingers, and it was pretty comfy for me.
You must have buzz-boy sized hands.
And yeah, I recall the Imp board thread, Ryan is awesome like that.

[txaggie08]

Don't let anyone get you down for your choice of marker.
Half of the time when these sucker's are bashing up'd ions or DM's or whatever else, theyre more than likely jealous that they couldn't afford one, or dont have one.

Whatever you feel comfortable shooting and ultimately enjoy, will be 'the best' marker.


Good lord how many times have I told people that over the years :D.

[Triangle]

Good lord how many times have I told people that over the years :D.


BTW, Imp's suck buy a mag.




Just remember, nothing will ever be good enough for anyone else unless you listen to what they say, blah blah blha mag valve recharge blah blah blah fastest on market blah blha best mech blah blah

[txaggie08]

http://photos-260.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/73/45/8362138/n8362138_36503260_3775.jpg

triangle, read the whole thread were i include the mention of that...

[CoolHand]

I had a 32 Degrees Impulse when they were brand new, they were identical to every other Impulse ever made, save for the cosmetic milling.

The old skinner solenoids had a little better flow numbers. I had mine tuned with an LPR where it would pinch paint. Was never able to get one with the newer solenoids to do it.

IMO the Impulse is a fine marker for the money now. They're easy to work on and upgrade, and they're more or less bullet proof if you grease them once in a while.

They are NOT the most air efficient marker, so if that's a major concern, I'd look towards a Viking instead. They don't suck air like a FreeStyle, but they're no Viking either.

Speed is not an issue really. I have verified video evidence of this marker shooting a sustained 18 bps in semi-auto:

http://www.logicpaintball.com/BlackRipper2Tilt.jpg

http://www.logicpaintball.com/BlackRipper2PassengerSide.jpg

http://www.logicpaintball.com/BlackRipper2DriverSide.jpg

I've also got a video of an Imp with a Pred II board in it going 22 bps in PSP ramp. The markers themselves are quite capable, it's mostly the board that limits the marker.

[rb211]

You can find IMP parts pretty cheap now. Just make sure that you get the right ones. For internals, New Designz seems to be the way to go. The only ones I have heard to stay away from are Evil, but I have never used them to be able to give an objective opinion. I have all NDZ parts in my Toxic and a WAS board. No FSDO at all. That can be caused by a lot of things though. The WAS board is the way to go, much more adjustable than the Blackheart, and has a better eye.

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[Triangle]

http://photos-260.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v61/73/45/8362138/n8362138_36503260_3775.jpg

triangle, read the whole thread were i include the mention of that...

Holy christ.
I can't believe you didn't catch the obvious sarcasm.

[txaggie08]

:rolleyes: ;) ;) :rolleyes:

[Triangle]

:rolleyes: ;) ;) :rolleyes:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




/vader




I see what you did there.

[txaggie08]

BTW coolhand, that was me you sent the $$ request to ;). My body has some cosmetic issues, but as clean as you "showroom" gun there looks, i might have to get a new stock body and suck it up ont he weight.

efficiency is kind of a relative thing. My imp gets close to a case of a 4.5k bottle. The main thing is, it will shoot much farther into the tank than my mag will, wich is important with this scuba setup since the pressure decreases over the day. I guess "deep into the tank" is more what im worried about.

[punkncat]

I guess "deep into the tank" is more what im worried about.


Fatal flaw of the Mag. :(

[Triangle]

Fatal flaw of the Mag. :(
http://www2.singersl.com/singer/images/products/kitchen_appliances/sis-sb02-blender-zoom.jpg

[txaggie08]

Fatal flaw of the Mag. :(



The only realy flaw as far as im concerned, and one of two reason I've been keen to have another nice electro. The other was the desire to have an angel style frame, and since coolhand has blessed us with the nice vert frames im happy. They'll both serve there purposes beautifuly.

[txaggie08]

http://www2.singersl.com/singer/images/products/kitchen_appliances/sis-sb02-blender-zoom.jpg


youve never shot a tuned lvl10 right? hell for that matter my classic l7 isnt THAT bad.