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BigEvil
02-20-2007, 08:29 PM
Hey all you mag shooting scenario and hardcore woodsball players,

So, AGD decided to go woodsball with the tac bodies, but then not much else. Seems like the Tippmmann guys get all the wonderful toys.

What milsim goodies would you like to see for your beloved mags?

Firstly, I think that some sort of adaptor that would allow you to mount a M98 stock to it. Secondly, I think that a new, easier-to-accessorize tac rail would be a good idea.

Give me your input..

Tac-OneFun
02-20-2007, 08:46 PM
yeah, anyone know where we can get good, cheap stuff to attach to the tac-one?

warbeak2099
02-20-2007, 08:47 PM
I don't own one, but what has kept me from building a milsim mag is the rarity of stocks that can fit the gun. I'm not talking bottomline mounted stocks. I'd want one that makes the gun feel like a rifle/AR. So yea the M98 adapter is a sweet idea. That and a front shroud would be sweet.

rellikmok
02-20-2007, 11:39 PM
Firstly, I think that some sort of adaptor that would allow you to mount a M98 stock to it.
Give me your input..

Seconded. That alone would open many doors to new looks. And also(just throwing the idea out there) a sort of cyclone feed system for our warp feed bodies. Maybe even a nice single trigger frame.

SkruD
02-20-2007, 11:48 PM
Not really cheap or abundant but there is a bit at Specialops Paintball (http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/category.asp?CAT=107201301)

rellikmok
02-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Yeah, specops is based here in Utah where I live. I'm not very fond of them, I'm more of an Opsgear (http://www.opsgear.com) fan. But unfortunately they don't make/stock any accessories specifically for a tac one.

DSR75
02-20-2007, 11:56 PM
While this isn't the ultimate scenario gun, it does provide something different. I'm still updating it and in fact I have a pretty cool mod for it real soon. I'm trying to mount the warp feed directly underneath the body. The warp then fits where a drum mag would on a tommy gun. I've also been working on a wooden stock that will mount where the micro-ca does now. Since I switched back to HPA I no longer have a use for it (in fact I just traded it).

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/BIGCountry75/IMG_0389.jpg

warbeak2099
02-21-2007, 12:34 AM
I've also been working on a wooden stock that will mount where the micro-ca does now. Since I switched back to HPA I no longer have a use for it (in fact I just traded it).



Wasn't kruger gonna knock that up for you? Or is he making grips to match the wood 4grip? Btw u have the coolest scenario mag ever. Better than any Longbow.

BigEvil
02-21-2007, 08:28 AM
Already exists-- its called the Recon rail & Picattiny rail :D

The front adjustable slot, and rear accessory slot were put there for a reason. I have always been surprised that tinkerers can put together a Pneumag, but never attempted to mount some picattiny rails to the Recon ;)

With Picattinys, the mounting options are endless :dance:



Well, i totally agree. and nothing against the rails (I own a few myself), but I think that when you look at some of what is available for the tippmanns, there is a world of potential for the mags.

Personally, I think a rail a few inches longer in the front would be great. It would let you mount a few different combinations of accessories to the gun. (ASA & Milsim foregrip, Grip & light, ect ect). Also, etac users need that front space for the battery, so the mounting slot is totally useless.

I have a few ideas for things im tossing around in my head, but I want to know what guys would want.

Swampy
02-21-2007, 08:39 AM
Basicly what Rogue did but I'd like to see a Tri Picattiny rail system where the foregrip goes. So not only can you mount those Picattiny rail for grips but other goodies hanging off to the side. And with E-tacs can't you just relocate it anyways?

Big evil I think I got a idea for mounting 98 stocks please excuse my mad MS Paint skills.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/315/thingyjg7.png

Basicly a cheap bolt on. Kind of bolts on like the old asa's did to the back of the rail.

BigEvil
02-21-2007, 10:23 AM
I actually have something a little better in mind, but same general idea :-) Just have to make sure that it will clear your hand holding the grip.

LegumeOfTerror
02-21-2007, 11:27 AM
Already exists-- its called the Recon rail & Picattiny rail :D

The front adjustable slot, and rear accessory slot were put there for a reason. I have always been surprised that tinkerers can put together a Pneumag, but never attempted to mount some picattiny rails to the Recon ;)

With Picattinys, the mounting options are endless :dance:

http://home.earthlink.net/~roguefactor/TacMountFront.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~roguefactor/TacMountBack.jpg

i used mine to mount a rifle sling for the blanding game.

luke
02-21-2007, 12:51 PM
BE,

I might be interested in making adapters to mount accessories intended for other markers. Actually I've have considered making Tac accessories but no one has ever ask. Can you give me a link to the stuff your talking about?

BigEvil
02-21-2007, 12:56 PM
BE,

I might be interested in making adapters to mount accessories intended for other markers. Actually I've have considered making Tac accessories but no one has ever ask. Can you give me a link to the stuff your talking about?


I will PM you as soon as I get a few minutes.

BigEvil
02-21-2007, 03:31 PM
I guess I dont follow...What would ETac users mount in that space? A foregrip? The battery pack is already there as a foregrip. A light? That can be mounted on the Tac body. An ASA? To do what? Run an air line through a 2nd foregrip in front of the battery pack?

Im just trying to visualize an ETac with a longer rail, and the accessories this would allow one to use that cant already be mounted to a standard ETac? :confused:

Just throwing ideas out. For one, I could see a under-hung light or laser. On some of the other milsim guns ive seen, they have fake magazines(gas through( and a foregrip mounted in front of it. On the etacs, the battery pack would be the 'fake magazine'

Im not saying that there is nothing that can be done now with whats available.. just trying to get the brain juices flowing.

DSR75
02-21-2007, 09:44 PM
Wasn't kruger gonna knock that up for you? Or is he making grips to match the wood 4grip? Btw u have the coolest scenario mag ever. Better than any Longbow.

I appreciate. He was going to make some grips but I"m currently designing, milling my idea of the ultimate mag frame. A single trigger frame that is big enough for my huge hands. I need to get some new pics up of my mag. Maybe once I get the warp mounted perfectly and add the wood stock, and complete my frame, I'll enter it in the MOTM.

Remagk
02-21-2007, 10:09 PM
glad to see this thread came out and get people attention, I myself was in progress to made a mislim E-Tac and need suggestion as well.

I would love to see a M16 stock made for Tac but personally I don't like it too much b/c I had try a T-stock on a AGD rail mount asa before and the "aim point" was too low that I had to tilt my head and neck to aim, maybe this just me getting old and getting tired easily. Anyhow this issue had been discussed before and don't get into it again.

find this stock on web for Glock, thinking of getting it and have Luke custom made a bracket mount it to the frame, I like the tactical look of it
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2167000-2167999/2167943_50_full.jpg
and mount the Opsgear hideaway mag. instead of gas through for the battery
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2167000-2167999/2167943_51_full.jpg

thinking of getting a A5 hand guard too, but affraid it not looking good on it b/c it just too big, anyway anyone can do a photoshop on it by putting all those pieces together and see how it come up? or any suggestion / route to made it more mislim.

Remagk
02-21-2007, 10:19 PM
here is another picture of the stock
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/2167000-2167999/2167943_52_full.jpg

don't suggest me the specialops T2W, it don't work for me.

snoopay700
02-22-2007, 12:17 AM
Already exists-- its called the Recon rail & Picattiny rail :D

The front adjustable slot, and rear accessory slot were put there for a reason. I have always been surprised that tinkerers can put together a Pneumag, but never attempted to mount some picattiny rails to the Recon ;)

With Picattinys, the mounting options are endless :dance:

http://home.earthlink.net/~roguefactor/TacMountFront.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~roguefactor/TacMountBack.jpg
Wow, that thing would be perfect for mounting a fore grip. I'm glad we finally have a way. Honestly i don't see the point of that though, cause that's where most people put a fore grip.

DSR75
02-22-2007, 12:43 AM
Right now you are limited in your choices for the foregrip. By mounting the pic rail you can use and military foregrip or the limitless supply from opsgear and specops designed for their line of upgrades. You can also add a longer rail to mount the grip farther out, instead of having to custom make a mounting bracket like I did.

pennywise
02-22-2007, 06:14 AM
Well, i totally agree. and nothing against the rails (I own a few myself), but I think that when you look at some of what is available for the tippmanns, there is a world of potential for the mags.

Personally, I think a rail a few inches longer in the front would be great. It would let you mount a few different combinations of accessories to the gun. (ASA & Milsim foregrip, Grip & light, ect ect). Also, etac users need that front space for the battery, so the mounting slot is totally useless.

I have a few ideas for things im tossing around in my head, but I want to know what guys would want.
What about a picatinny battery pack for the E-Tacs?

BigEvil
02-22-2007, 08:08 AM
What about a picatinny battery pack for the E-Tacs?


What did you have in mind? A rail on the bottom or somewhere else?

txaggie08
02-22-2007, 10:35 AM
How about a picatiny rail down the left side of the batt pack top scetion?

Ace12GA
02-22-2007, 04:20 PM
I had an idea for a complete rail replacement that would use A5 stocks. Now that I see this thread, I completely forgot about it; I was supposed to send CAD drawings to jay8541 a while ago. Anyway, this was my idea, and if I buy a milling machine to go with my lathe, I'll probably make one. Rendered pics to show the idea.

http://evan.action-web.ca/pball/ao_pics/AutomagScenarioRail_1.jpg
http://evan.action-web.ca/pball/ao_pics/AutomagScenarioRail_2.jpg

BigEvil
02-22-2007, 05:24 PM
I had an idea for a complete rail replacement that would use A5 stocks. Now that I see this thread, I completely forgot about it; I was supposed to send CAD drawings to jay8541 a while ago. Anyway, this was my idea, and if I buy a milling machine to go with my lathe, I'll probably make one. Rendered pics to show the idea.

http://evan.action-web.ca/pball/ao_pics/AutomagScenarioRail_1.jpg
http://evan.action-web.ca/pball/ao_pics/AutomagScenarioRail_2.jpg

Thats pretty much what I had in mind (glad I see im not the only nut around here:-)) The only thing I would do different, is 'flip' the part where the stock connects to.

ultralight
02-22-2007, 07:06 PM
why not mount picatinny rails on the three/6 mounting holes provided on either side of an rt pro type rail? you could then make an adapter that would mount solidly to the two in the back, and still have one on either side in the front.

or mount full length rails along the entire length of the rail. spacers might be needed on an rt pro that steps in at the front..

with one mounting rail on either side of the mags rail and one behind the grip, i'd say you've got ample real estate to mount a stock if you can rig an adapter.

but if you couple that idea with a tac body, people might think you've built yourself a marker out of legos. :D it would look like a cubist impression of a marker.

talk to the guys at http://undergroundmodshop.com/ . they're mainly tippmann guys, but i'm sure they'd love to tinker with some tacticool mags.

Ace12GA
02-22-2007, 07:50 PM
Thats pretty much what I had in mind (glad I see im not the only nut around here:-)) The only thing I would do different, is 'flip' the part where the stock connects to.

Thats not a bad idea really, it would allow me to move the stock mount forward some. Of course, I think that might put the stock at an odd relation to the trigger frame though.

BigEvil
02-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Thats not a bad idea really, it would allow me to move the stock mount forward some. Of course, I think that might put the stock at an odd relation to the trigger frame though.

Well, depends. I would help you sight over the gun with a mask on. Just gotta make it small enough and shaped so your hand clears the grip.

Swampy
02-23-2007, 04:09 AM
what about making the battery foregrip(E-tac) look likea M-16 weel with mag inserted?