new technology? or hype?

[don miguel]

watch this video: mini vid (http://invertpaintball.com/?page=minivideo2)
when the guy starts to talk about the hoses, he eventually gets to the trigger... then he says "we use a hall-effect sensor...which is completely new technology" then he talks about how there is no trigger switch. Has he and the rest of invert forgotten about THE XMAG?
http://www.airgun.com/museum/text/JPG/x-mag_zz.jpg

the xmag has a hall effect sensor trigger as well... hmmm new technology, or hype crazy reps? I like the mini alot, but this is just another example of HYPE OVER KNOWLEDGE!!!!

what do you think?

[wjr]

:rofl:

I doubt Manike forgot about the xmag, seeing as how he helped design it.

I didn't actually watch the video, so I'm not going to make any judgements yet...

[RvB Caboose]

Promoting the HES as "completely new technology" just helps to size up the Mini as pure innovation. Paintball manufacturers love to make sure players have the latest and greatest technological improvements.

[don miguel]

Promoting the HES as "completely new technology" just helps to size up the Mini as pure innovation. Paintball manufacturers love to make sure players have the latest and greatest technological improvements.
yeah, so true. The mini is nice, but I can see that this could have been a slip of the tounge.

[skriptal]

not only does the XMAG use hes, but the EMAG uses it also.

Also in the video he says, "it (HES) has not been seen for a long time." as hge does sorta acknowledge that it has been used before.

and Manike knows that he is not the first one to use HES

[LFD92]

If you actually listened to what he said, he clearly states, and I quote:



This isn't entirely new technology, it's just that no one has brought it out in a long time

[Pneumagger]

Why did you post Xmag stats in an AO thread as if it's informative.

Part of being a member here is worshiping the Xmag and knowing it's construction thoroughly. It's a membership prerequisite, if you must.

/psst, the emag uses hall sensor too.
//the mini uses it as a novelty - there's no necessity warrenting the excess power usage of a Hall effect switch. <--- basically it's there to cater to the AAGites (and moonenites)
///Manike knows it's not original

[Mind'sEye]

One of the primary objectives in the Mini's design was to eliminate air lines and wires. I can't vouch for the reliability of the components but the overall install is very clean. The HES is direct mounted to the upper board which eliminates the need for exposed wires to connect a microswitch to the board. To that end it serves it's intended purpose:

https://home.comcast.net/~l.b.stanchfield/wsb/media/1870787/site1041.jpg

[bentothejam1n]

watch this video: mini vid (http://invertpaintball.com/?page=minivideo2)
when the guy starts to talk about the hoses, he eventually gets to the trigger... then he says "we use a hall-effect sensor...which is completely new technology" then he talks about how there is no trigger switch. Has he and the rest of invert forgotten about THE XMAG?

the xmag has a hall effect sensor trigger as well... hmmm new technology, or hype crazy reps? I like the mini alot, but this is just another example of HYPE OVER KNOWLEDGE!!!!

what do you think?
you can stop posting now

[Super_Stalker]

yo're a little slow on the draw there cowboy. It's been disscussed.

[snoopay700]

you can stop posting now
:headbang:

[RvB Caboose]

I haven't seen the video, but if it is stated that the HES HAS been used before, and is not "completely new technology," then I stand corrected.

Compared to a microswitch, does a HES use more battery power. Why did AGD choose to use one instead of a microswitch in the E/X-Mag?

[__Phoenix__]

I'm waiting for the mods to start doing their job.

[CKY_Alliance]

I'm waiting for the mods to start doing their job.

• Do not use excessive colors, bold letters, or ASCII characters

Indeed...

[don miguel]

• Do not use excessive colors, bold letters, or ASCII characters

Indeed...
geese people it's for effect. Watch the video, I think the guy was trying to make a point, but one little slip in speech can make you look like a liar.

[thomas]

geese people it's for effect. Watch the video, I think the guy was trying to make a point, but one little slip in speech can make you look like a liar.
Or, make you look like idiot for not knowing who Manike is or his contributions to this forum and Mags in general. :tard:

I don't think it was a slip in his speech but rather a slip in your hearing or perhaps your brain doesn't process the english language properly?


Who are these geese people you speak of? :confused:

[FromTheBack]

geese people it's for effect. Watch the video, I think the guy was trying to make a point, but one little slip in speech can make you look like a liar.

You really should show more respect to such a good guy as manike. He's helped mags out and if you didn't know that you owe it to yourself to find out what he did.

[snoopay700]

I finally watched said video and he says "which isn't entirely new technology" so clean out them ears.

[Beemer]

Ya but wait. Isnt there a pat. pend. or Pat. applied for on the hes trig? Or is there? Who would know that?

[d4m4don3]

Ya but wait. Isnt there a pat. pend. or Pat. applied for on the hes trig? Or is there? Who would know that?

If I remember correctly this has been discussed before, PTP gave AGD the patent to the HES Trigger. I believe AGD isn't enforcing the patent.

[cyrus-the-virus]

If I remember correctly this has been discussed before, PTP gave AGD the patent to the HES Trigger. I believe AGD isn't enforcing the patent.

wwhich means E-mags arn't making a return....ever.

Don.....I give up... he's not going away....

[SpitFire1299]

I love my mini!!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/PwrMugen/IMG_0022.jpg

:cheers:

[Lohman446]

Agreed, I like mine so much I ordered a second one today :)

[behemoth]

Agreed, I like mine so much I ordered a second one today :)

While youre at it, buy me one, and i'll get you back. okay?

[manike]

That's actually not me guys, that's Avery Amaya. I have an English accent... well mostly, although it's being abused after 3 years of living in the states. :)

I've worked quite hard to make sure people know we weren't the first to have a Hall Effect Senor in the Mini and that the E-mag had one before. I do my best to give props where they are due, and not take credit that belongs to others.

Obviously if you actually paid attention to that video you would see that Avery quite clearly says it's not the first gun to use the technology, but that it hasn't been used in a while. Which is true.

:hail: To all those that did listen and realise what was actually said. :cheers:

Lohman, very glad to hear you like it. :shooting:

[turbo chicken]

hmmm ... xmag or mini ... love the simplicity of the mini ... but AGD is where the heart is ...


eh ... must finish the pump mag first ...

[FlawleZ]

Ya know, I was at the field today and two peeps were there shooting Mini's and while I gawked for a bit, I didn't even ask to shoot one. I'm wishing I did now.

[Beemer]

Avery quite clearly says it's not the first gun to use the technology, but that it hasn't been used in a while. Which is true.

:hail: To all those that did listen and realise what was actually said. :cheers:


Ya but wait. Isnt there a pat. pend. or Pat. applied for on the hes trig? Or is there? Who would know that?

[Desega]

Or, make you look like idiot for not knowing who Manike is or his contributions to this forum and Mags in general. :tard:

I don't think it was a slip in his speech but rather a slip in your hearing or perhaps your brain doesn't process the english language properly?


Who are these geese people you speak of? :confused:


You earn 15 cool points Mr. Thomas.

[calebh]

so how many actually understand the hall effect? lol

[Lohman446]

I like the mini alot, but this is just another example of HYPE OVER KNOWLEDGE!!!!

what do you think?

I think you, of all people, should not talk about people talking about what they don't have a clue about.

[Beemer]

He just asked what ya thought. That is all.

keep asking the questions, thats what its all about. Like is there a Pat. pend. or Pat. applied for on the HES Trig and who would know that? And if you know it its still okay to use it. Well ya know what it is. Till it gets a grant you can do what ever ya want with it.

[don miguel]

That's actually not me guys, that's Avery Amaya. I have an English accent... well mostly, although it's being abused after 3 years of living in the states. :)

I've worked quite hard to make sure people know we weren't the first to have a Hall Effect Senor in the Mini and that the E-mag had one before. I do my best to give props where they are due, and not take credit that belongs to others.

Obviously if you actually paid attention to that video you would see that Avery quite clearly says it's not the first gun to use the technology, but that it hasn't been used in a while. Which is true.

:hail: To all those that did listen and realise what was actually said. :cheers:

Lohman, very glad to hear you like it. :shooting:

Sorry I must have misinterpreted it, it really sounded like he said it was brand new technology. I do love the mini, and I was sure you guys weren't all about hype.

[Doobie]

That's actually not me guys, that's Avery Amaya. I have an English accent... well mostly, although it's being abused after 3 years of living in the states. :)

I've worked quite hard to make sure people know we weren't the first to have a Hall Effect Senor in the Mini and that the E-mag had one before. I do my best to give props where they are due, and not take credit that belongs to others.

Obviously if you actually paid attention to that video you would see that Avery quite clearly says it's not the first gun to use the technology, but that it hasn't been used in a while. Which is true.

:hail: To all those that did listen and realise what was actually said. :cheers:

Lohman, very glad to hear you like it. :shooting:

***Warning off topic***

Simon...PM me. Trina and I are in NY and want to hear from you (and invite you to the West Point Big Game) but I can't because you are the hardest Brit ever to find even with your English/Jersy accent!