Microsoft Convergence 2007

[beam]

Many of you may not have a clue what this is. It is Microsoft's geek convention for business applications.

I've been to it for the last three years and every year, I come away impressed. This year is no different.

Let me just say, there's a reason why Microsoft generates more revenue in Q1 2006 than Apple did in Q3 and Q4 combined...you could almost add Q2.

iPods are great and all, but they don't help your business.

[Hexis]

Bwhahahaha

MS has what, 9+ times the marketshare that Apple does, and they are only taking in about 2x the revnue? That's a sad statement about MS, not Apple.

Get real, MS only helps us in the IT industry stay employeed. They don't help the business at all, except to spend a lot of money on their IT needs.

[robnix]

Get real, MS only helps us in the IT industry stay employeed. They don't help the business at all, except to spend a lot of money on their IT needs.

Broken window. It's revenue that would be spent on a different product.

[Hexis]

IT costs are not at all limited to product costs alone.

Using products with lower TCOs benefit the overall budget. MS's products generally have a high TCO when you take it all into the picture. More stable secure products end up haveing a significant lower TCO.

I know which systems I spend a lot of time maintaining and which I don't have to. Generally across the board I spend a lot of time with the feed and care of MS systems. I don't spend much time at all on the feed and care of unix based systems. Overall I have more windows systems to maintain, but moe unique unix systems and appliances. The windows stuff is generally centrally managed and maintained by a single policy.

[robnix]

IT costs are not at all limited to product costs alone.

Using products with lower TCOs benefit the overall budget. MS's products generally have a high TCO when you take it all into the picture. More stable secure products end up haveing a significant lower TCO.

I know which systems I spend a lot of time maintaining and which I don't have to. Generally across the board I spend a lot of time with the feed and care of MS systems. I don't spend much time at all on the feed and care of unix based systems. Overall I have more windows systems to maintain, but moe unique unix systems and appliances. The windows stuff is generally centrally managed and maintained by a single policy.

I know this is a simplistic way of putting it, but it's the who, not the system that matters.

[Steelrat]

Bwhahahaha

MS has what, 9+ times the marketshare that Apple does, and they are only taking in about 2x the revnue? That's a sad statement about MS, not Apple.


Yay, Apple is making gobs of profit by overcharging us for these piece of crap Ipods. Go Apple!

You can't compare marketshare and profit. Apple derives so much of it's profit from Ipods, it's hard to even consider it a computer company any more. Shoot, they even took "Computer" out of their name. For Microsoft, their core business is still software. The Zune and Xbox divisions still loose money (Xbox might be making a small profit now, not sure).

Come on everyone, time to jump on the M$ hate bandwagon!

[Hexis]

You can't compare marketshare and profit. Apple derives so much of it's profit from Ipods, it's hard to even consider it a computer company any more. Shoot, they even took "Computer" out of their name. For Microsoft, their core business is still software. The Zune and Xbox divisions still loose money (Xbox might be making a small profit now, not sure).

Very true. Apple is doing a lot more than computers.


Come on everyone, time to jump on the M$ hate bandwagon!

But... it's soooo fun. I know MS generates at least a headache a day for me. I just want to give a lil back.

[geekwarrior]

But... it's soooo fun. I know MS generates at least a headache a day for me. I just want to give a lil back.

It's called job security...you should be thanking MS.

[Dark Side]

Eh, don't forget Linux is making headway like crazy in the Business world.


All I have to say, is thank you Mr. Blue screen of death!

[warbeak2099]

Can anyone post a screenshot of Linux, I'm curious as to what it looks like. I've never actually seen it. BTW I don't know if it's just me, but the current Mac OS is like so frusterating and difficult to use. Windows XP is just so much easier to me.

[Dark Side]

Can anyone post a screenshot of Linux, I'm curious as to what it looks like. I've never actually seen it. BTW I don't know if it's just me, but the current Mac OS is like so frusterating and difficult to use. Windows XP is just so much easier to me.


There must be an easy 100 different types of Linux. My favorite is PClinuxOS. Easy to use and plent of programs. The only downfall is games are limited on the OS.

[Hexis]

\BTW I don't know if it's just me, but the current Mac OS is like so frusterating and difficult to use.

It's just you. I was a PC biggot for years. Could not stand Macs, then OSX came out. Now the only PCs in my house are running FreeBS, otherwise it's all OSX. You just have to get used to things being easy. I fought with OSX for a while, I was just over thinking everything. If you get stuck, take a step back and think "how should this work, not the windows way, but the right way".

[Lenny]

Ha ha! Nerds!

:ninja:

[geekwarrior]

Ha ha! Nerds!

:ninja:

this is AO.....we're all nerds/geeks to some extent :p

[robnix]

this is AO.....we're all nerds/geeks to some extent :p

I was thinking that all mag shooters are.

[slade]

Come on everyone, time to jump on the M$ hate bandwagon!
sure, why not?



Can anyone post a screenshot of Linux, I'm curious as to what it looks like. I've never actually seen it. BTW I don't know if it's just me, but the current Mac OS is like so frusterating and difficult to use. Windows XP is just so much easier to me.

here's an old screenshot:

<a href="http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/file_4gallery/7/4/5/3/1/screenshot-6_original.png"><img src="http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/file_4gallery/7/4/5/3/1/screenshot-6_original.png" width="800" height="600"></img></a>


im too lazy to take and host another of my own. here's some more screenshots: http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=1

or you can just do a google image search for any given distro.

[xmetal2001]

sure, why not?




here's an old screenshot:

*pic*


im too lazy to take and host another of my own. here's some more screenshots: http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=1

or you can just do a google image search for any given distro.

Really not the best screenshot to show someone who wants a generic linux desktop picture.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/7670937654

Check that out for a variety of screenshots.

[robnix]

Really not the best screenshot to show someone who wants a generic linux desktop picture.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/7670937654

Check that out for a variety of screenshots.

5 year old pictures aren't much better.

This is the best place to go. You can check by distro or date.

http://shots.osdir.com/

[slade]

i was going to take a normal screenshot, but as i said, i was too lazy, and that one was already hosted.

the easiest place is just google image search, and a distro name or window manager.

*edit* a short introduction to distros, different window managers, and compiz/beryl may be in order?