Interested in EP mag solenoids?

[wjr]

I've got an account with a SMC distributor, and I'm about to place an order for a few SY113A-SG-PM3 solenoids for myself (these (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=SMC-SY113A-SG-PM3&Category_Code=SOLENOIDS) )

I thought I might leave the chance open to anyone if they want to get in on the order.

I could also get any other SMC solenoid most likely, but I can't promise on the availability.

The SY113A will take 2 weeks to be shipped over from Japan.

The price is $30 for the SY113A, including the cost of mailing.

If anyone is interested in other solenoids, I can call them tomorrow on the price.

I'll collect the $30 in the 2 weeks once I get them in (please don't tell me you want one now and then don't pay, that wouldn't be very nice). Or you can pay me now if you want.

Please post here or PM me if you're interested and or have any questions.

[Pneumagger]

I've got an account with a SMC distributor, and I'm about to place an order for a few SY113A-SG-PM3 solenoids for myself (these (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=SMC-SY113A-SG-PM3&Category_Code=SOLENOIDS) )

I thought I might leave the chance open to anyone if they want to get in on the order.

I could also get any other SMC solenoid most likely, but I can't promise on the availability.

The SY113A will take 2 weeks to be shipped over from Japan.

The price is $30 for the SY113A, including the cost of mailing.

If anyone is interested in other solenoids, I can call them tomorrow on the price.

I'll collect the $30 in the 2 weeks once I get them in (please don't tell me you want one now and then don't pay, that wouldn't be very nice). Or you can pay me now if you want.

Please post here or PM me if you're interested and or have any questions.

I personally want to try the MAC small 3 way solenoids. From other people's experiences, I hear the SMC's aren't super reliable in EP conversions. To see the Mac 3 way, it is the same 3 way as the lucky ion solenoids. not sure of the part number though. Plus, Mac noids may be a little easier to come by rather than waiting for something to ship from Japan.

[wjr]

I personally want to try the MAC small 3 way solenoids. From other people's experiences, I hear the SMC's aren't super reliable inbou EP conversions. To see the Mac 3 way, it is the same 3 way as the lucky ion solenoids. not sure of the part number though. Plus, Mac noids may be a little easier to come by rather than waiting for something to ship from Japan.


Link or part number? I'll definitely take that under consideration.

2 weeks isn't really that bad IMO. It takes about that long to get solenoids from airsoldier anyways.

[BigEvil]

Those SMCs arent that great, I killed 2 of them. Look at the MAC on the ASP site, or the Humphries if you want something even more robust. Only downside is that they are larger, and will probably require the much more expensive 90* m3 barbs.

[wjr]

Hmm... that sucks. I'll look into those mac valves then. Anyone have specific 3-way model numbers? I'm having trouble with the Mac website for some reason.

[Remagk]

I am looking at this : Mac Noid (http://www.wickedairsportz.com/products.php?cat=26)

BE, you kill two already? mine still running fine, probally u had balled alot with it. Looking forward to meet u @ Tuna Ball if I don't have a out of town assignment by my boss.

[KRAKMT]

Does anyone have the dimensions of that mac noid? Would it fit in a milled rt rail? Or does anyone know of a 4way that would fit inside an rt rail- laying flat inside with 90 degre barbs?
Just a project thought yous all might have an idea?
K

[Pneumagger]

http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/mac43series.jpg

This 4 way mac solenoid has the following info (provided by nicad):

Pressure rating: Vac to 120psi.
You see port #2 and #4 on the top, with #4 being closest to the noid. These are the output ports.
On the bottom are ports #3 (vent), #1 (input), and #5 (vent), #5 being closest to the noid.
At rest, #2 is connected to #1, and #4 to #5.
Activated, #2 goes to #3, and #4 goes to #1.

Dimensions: 1.77 x 0.637 x 0.325
All 5 ports are threaded M3.
Flying leads are ~18" long.

[Pneumagger]

The MAC 3way solenoid I was talking about. It's wired to an ION board in the pic.
http://www.pbreview.com/productpics/?action=view&photo=12793&product=4789

[Liquid Plummer]

http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/mac43series.jpg



Holy crap! That is the same 'noid as on the Rainmaker!

Do you have one I could buy off of you?

[Pneumagger]

Holy crap! That is the same 'noid as on the Rainmaker!

Do you have one I could buy off of you?
No it's not and no I don't - sorry. The rainmaker is 10-32 threaded barbs... this noid is M3 threaded. Alot of the MAC noids are similar. The particular one pictured is a MAC 43A-AAA-RDSA-1BA (1.8W)

This is the rainmaker solenoid: MAC 44B-AAAA-GDSA-1BA

[Liquid Plummer]

No it's not and no I don't - sorry. The rainmaker is 10-32 threaded barbs... this noid is M3 threaded. Alot of the MAC noids are similar. The particular one pictured is a MAC 43A-AAA-RDSA-1BA (1.8W)

This is the rainmaker solenoid: MAC 44B-AAAA-GDSA-1BA

now I know. Thanks.

[wjr]

I just found the part number for the small mac 3-way on the lucky ion board:



Model: 33A-AAA-RDUJ-1BL

Volts: 5VDC

Watts: 4.0

MODiF: 7493

[havocx]

I just found the part number for the small mac 3-way on the lucky ion board:


I found this on the ZDS solenoid tech page

the lucky mac noid is a "33A-AAA-RDUJ-1BL"

ZDS Paintball (http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/solenoids.html)

[Pneumagger]

I found this on the ZDS solenoid tech page

the lucky mac noid is a "33A-AAA-RDUJ-1BL"

ZDS Paintball (http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/solenoids.html)
http://www.macvalves.com/PDFS/33_Series.pdf

[wjr]

Thanks alot for that link pneumagger. That makes things much easier.

I came up with this part number:

33A-AAB-RDKA-0-BA

[havocx]

has anyone used this noid?
SMC mini 3way (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=SMC-S070C-SDG-32&Category_Code=SOLENOIDS)

http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/smcs070c-sdg-32.jpg

[wjr]

I've heard of the little plastic barbs on that one snapping off.

And it only works up to 70psi. That limits you to a ULT.

[Pneumagger]

Thanks alot for that link pneumagger. That makes things much easier.

I came up with this part number:

33A-AAB-RDKA-0-BA

Why the "0" and not a "1" ?

I'm putting an order for several MAC 3 and 4 way noids monday... maybe it might be cheaper if I toss yours in on the order? What'ya say?

[p8ntbal4me]

Why the "0" and not a "1" ?

I'm putting an order for several MAC 3 and 4 way noids monday... maybe it might be cheaper if I toss yours in on the order? What'ya say?


When you get the noids Pneu,.. let me know how they work out.

[p8ntbal4me]

Does anyone have the dimensions of that mac noid? Would it fit in a milled rt rail? Or does anyone know of a 4way that would fit inside an rt rail- laying flat inside with 90 degre barbs?
Just a project thought yous all might have an idea?
K


I was thinking of this,.. so I just tried to size mine up and look at an R/T Pro rail.

The area where the fore grip goes is rather thin, and leaves almost NO meat to hold anything in place. If you wanted to persue it,.. you had better be good at milling.

The area where the sear holds the bolt in place, and the upper sight rail is held with 6 screws allows for more milling and a simple placement of 90 degree barbs as well. This would be my first choice over any other area.

Problem here would be the bolt and sear. You would need to again, do some homework into where the sear lines up and touches the bolt catch. Side clearance looks doable. But you need to be sure when doing the milling.

Hope that helps some. :cheers:

[Pneumagger]

the website has all of the dimensions.

[stonersr26]

Unless the Mac you are looking at is thinner than mine it will not fit into the rail. It doesn't allow the body and rail to come together. The noid will fit with the 90 barbs but it is just too thick. I tried :cry:

[p8ntbal4me]

Unless the Mac you are looking at is thinner than mine it will not fit into the rail. It doesn't allow the body and rail to come together. The noid will fit with the 90 barbs but it is just too thick. I tried :cry:


I checked my MAC against the R/T Pro and R/T Classic rails.

The noid is thinner than the rail so you would have a space to work with.

The rails measure a hair over 3/8 thick. The noid is a hair over 1/4,.. so it would fit if you were carefull with a mill.

Again,.. thats with those 2 rails,... I have not looked at anything else yet.

[stonersr26]

I checked my MAC against the R/T Pro and R/T Classic rails.

The noid is thinner than the rail so you would have a space to work with.

The rails measure a hair over 3/8 thick. The noid is a hair over 1/4,.. so it would fit if you were carefull with a mill.

Again,.. thats with those 2 rails,... I have not looked at anything else yet.


I see, your rail must be milled a little differently than mine than as I would have had to mill a good 1/8th of an inch from either my body or rail, or both to get the noid to sit in there properly. Good luck with it though.

[Pneumagger]

dont forget you need to apply fittings or a custom manifold. A noid chilling in a rail only adds wieght ;)

[wjr]

I'd like to get in on your order for a 3-way noid Pneumagger. Let me know about payment details.

I've had a "family emergency" recently and things have been pretty hectic around here, so I'm not going to have much time to place an order anytime soon.

[Zneaky]

has anyone used this noid?
SMC mini 3way (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=SMC-S070C-SDG-32&Category_Code=SOLENOIDS)

http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/smcs070c-sdg-32.jpg


I used this Solenoid, and I am very happy with it. I probably only have 2 cases through it, but it is very small, and had no problems with the plastic barbs.

Details here:
http://putstuff.putfile.com/57166/5272200/3

You have to hit next 3 times. The file is 23MB's.

Vido here:
http://media.putfile.com/I-mag-Video

Also a large file.

Z

[KRAKMT]

My hair brain idea was to mount the 4way in the rail then with a mq valve vertical up through the body. No mag valve.


Run the bolt on a powertubeesk shaft with a small ram to connect to the bolt stationed behind the mq valve.
Thus mq operating directly behind the bolt. And bolt completely independent of the propellant.
Ideally the bolt/mq and low pressure reg could slide in from the back.

I just need an MQ-- thay are selling for twice their original amount, a karta or xmag body, and a mac noid. I am like almost there.
K



I was thinking of this,.. so I just tried to size mine up and look at an R/T Pro rail.

The area where the fore grip goes is rather thin, and leaves almost NO meat to hold anything in place. If you wanted to persue it,.. you had better be good at milling.

The area where the sear holds the bolt in place, and the upper sight rail is held with 6 screws allows for more milling and a simple placement of 90 degree barbs as well. This would be my first choice over any other area.

Problem here would be the bolt and sear. You would need to again, do some homework into where the sear lines up and touches the bolt catch. Side clearance looks doable. But you need to be sure when doing the milling.

Hope that helps some. :cheers:

[etjoyride]

Hey Joe, i'm also interested in this group Mac noid order if you haven't already made it. Please let me know the details.

[Pneumagger]

Hey Joe, i'm also interested in this group Mac noid order if you haven't already made it. Please let me know the details.

I have not made the order. It's $28.50 for the 4 way and $29.50 for the 3 way. The distributer is only a few blocks downtown from me. It'll prolly only be $5 priority for me to ship them out in a bubble mailer to anyone wanting one.

[Pneumagger]

I have not made the order. It's $28.50 for the 4 way and $29.50 for the 3 way. The distributer is only a few blocks downtown from me. It'll prolly only be $5 priority for me to ship them out in a bubble mailer to anyone wanting one.

The order will be made before the end of the week.

[AirAssault]

The order will be made before the end of the week.

I would like to pick one of these up too. PM me your addy so I can send you out the money for the Airwalk. I had it but deleted it I think. Thanks, AA.

[KRAKMT]

I would be interested in one also. PM if you would.
K