MilSim Mags Pics/info

[Tig]

Who has there Mags set up for MilSim?
Would you please post pics of your Mags with a list of mods.
I would like to do something of that nature to mine(or I might pick up another to convert to a MilSim spec marker)
Just looking for some ideas and links to find parts.
I found a pic of this Mag (somewhere not sure where, probably on here), this is something like I would want to do. Any other info or pics would be great.
Thanks
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x319/Tig2002/Mag.jpg

[Warwitch]

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9282/bane1nj0.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4754/bane2dy5.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7969/bane4zl8.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5877/bane3hv0.jpg

E-Tac from Tunaman (Warp Left body for nice clear line of sight)
Tunablade
X-modded
Qloaded w/CMS
SpecOps TW2 air-thru stock
SpecOps tactical sling
Armson Max Duty OEG sight
Killa magnet detent
Heartwood grips by Kruger
Pearce rubber grip insert (finger grooves on front-strap of frame, a la Styg)
ProTeam 90* Warp adapter
ProTeam Battrey Pack
AGD Super Warp hose
Sanchez Machine SM1 3-piece barrel kit
OpsGear supressor (for fun ;) )

:shooting:-------------------------------------------- :eek:

[BigEvil]

Here's mine. I love showing it off.

http://www.bigevilonline.com/modules/coppermine/albums/My%20Guns/normal_ETAC1_MOTM_12_06.JPG

[mostpeople]

poor mags :(

[BigEvil]

poor mags :(

Douchebagsayswhat? :D

[punkncat]

The first one, though nice looking is a complete waste of an Xvalve. There in NO need for that on a pump, AND should not be run off a 12G.

[scion]

that first pump belongs to rrfireblade and he definitely knows what he's doing.

[craltal]

I don't see how a pump mag can be called "MilSim." Normally that term is used for guns that emulate Military weapons which the two emags shown do

[mostpeople]

Douchebagsayswhat? :D

yes he does

[Joelus Morolus]

Here's mine. I love showing it off.

http://www.bigevilonline.com/modules/coppermine/albums/My%20Guns/normal_ETAC1_MOTM_12_06.JPG


uh, wow. so sexy. does the shroud offset the weight to the front? or is it lightweight? it looks amazing, where did you get it and did you have to mod it to fit?

[Rudz]

The first one, though nice looking is a complete waste of an Xvalve. There in NO need for that on a pump, AND should not be run off a 12G.


so i guess the fact that fireblade was getting 40 shots from that modified x valve on 12 grams is stupid huh?


do your homework

/hello
//goodnite

[Chronobreak]

tig,

nice Phag(phantom mag), or LP(limited paint) mag

x-valves can be used for pumps fine if modified correctly.

[craltal]

so i guess the fact that fireblade was getting 40 shots from that modified x valve on 12 grams is stupid huh?


do your homework

/hello
//goodnite


put the claws away. without knowing that the x-valve was modified he has a valid point, CO2 should not be used on a stock RT style valve.

[warbeak2099]

Nah I'm with Rudz. That's an obvious Jay picture. It's got his signature "shadow stand" coming out of the grass lol.

[Rudz]

that IS jays gun, no doubt, and i run co2 from my pump mag just fine, its co2 at high rates of fire that affects the valve, pumps dont have the high rof issue, this has been discussed before, i suggest you do some homework also.

/passes out school books
//read up kids

[kruger]

my old Tac one, it was used for night play mostly.

http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/29000/NIGHT_TAC_ONE002_rs.JPG (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic/29737.html)

But, I really do like Big E's Etac.

[BigEvil]

uh, wow. so sexy. does the shroud offset the weight to the front? or is it lightweight? it looks amazing, where did you get it and did you have to mod it to fit?


I run it remote, so it's pretty light and nicely balanced.

[Warwitch]

my old Tac one, it was used for night play mostly.

http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/29000/NIGHT_TAC_ONE002_rs.JPG (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic/29737.html)

But, I really do like Big E's Etac.


Holy crap :eek: It would have to be night time to not see that thing coming!

[kruger]

The way that I had it set up, it would tuck in tight, and I had a friend mill out a front grip extension. That really helped balance it out and was very easy to control. It looks heavy, and it was, but the way that I used it was not too bad. 3 pt sling was a life saver on this rig. Parted and gone now, 'cept the frame, use that for "other" things :D

[rifleman wi]

http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/25000/SC_Minimag_rs.jpg (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic/25081.html)

yea yea i know its not a pump,but the SC feed is still fun...

[Tig]

Kruger,
Yours is very sweet.

rifleman,
Thats slick, did you make that body? I like the hopperless bodies.

[punkncat]

Gosh rudz, you are so thugalicious!!!!


:dance:


My statement was based on some information passed down by Tom some time ago (too lazy to find) about the internal design of the RT and therefore X valves causing the CO2 to revert to liquid inside. That was why its STAMPED into the valve to use HPA, IIRC.

So really, w/o knowing the marker as intimately as you seem to, it would not be an invalid or uninformed statement.

I am interested in knowing what was done to the valve to increase the efficency and be more tolerate of CO2. My guess is a classic on/off and removal of the LX?

[craltal]

Gosh rudz, you are so thugalicious!!!!


:dance:


My statement was based on some information passed down by Tom some time ago (too lazy to find) about the internal design of the RT and therefore X valves causing the CO2 to revert to liquid inside. That was why its STAMPED into the valve to use HPA, IIRC.

So really, w/o knowing the marker as intimately as you seem to, it would not be an invalid or uninformed statement.

I am interested in knowing what was done to the valve to increase the efficency and be more tolerate of CO2. My guess is a classic on/off and removal of the LX?


Exactly what I was referring to as well. Just because something CAN be done that is in direct violation of the designer and manufacturer's expressed written instructions doesn't mean that it should be done by the blindly led masses.

[rifleman wi]

rifleman,
Thats slick, did you make that body? I like the hopperless bodies.
yea i made it, heres another for ya..
http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/25000/sc_minimag_2_rs.jpg (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic/25082.html)

[Tig]

Nice, Thanks for the extra pics rifleman.

[Rudz]

In a pump mag its better to use a lvl 7, and I use a ult in my x valve, I only get about 13 shots from a 12 gram, but moddified valves get close to 40, fireblade modifies the interals of the valve, as to what specifically, I can't say, maybe I come off as a prick sometimes, I just assume everyone spends as much time as I do on these boards.

[mt84]

Simple but it works for me

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p200/mt84/mt84%20arsenal/HPIM1262.jpg

M&M Raiders - CO
Canadian Contingent
Special Ops Brigade

[Tac-OneFun]

wish i had some more mods on my Tac-One... i might show it off.

and DANG Kruger. That night vision thing must way a ton. Although, i know how useful it would be for night play. I have thought about gettign a powerful flashlight to put on the front of mineto identify people in the dark. Plus it will blind them and they won't be able to see anything for a while....

[maddboy32]

Douchebagsayswhat? :D


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[maddboy32]

16" armson
20bps hyperframe (fullauto)
adjustable "c5" drop
qloader (gen 2)
warp left body PTP 90* elbow
x-valve-LX-ULT
everything else on the gun is stock im pretty sure.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l274/maddboy32/paintball%20gear/100_1269.jpg

[Warwitch]

Maddboy: Love that rig, Ive had a pic in my photo folder for a while now. It was one that influenced me to purchase my Warp bodied E-tac :cheers:

[Tig]

I'm glad this is turning out to be a popular thread :).
You guys have some sweet markers.

I saw a nice set that included a forward grip and and site rail like mt84 has.
I noticed it had wholes on the side, looks like it may have to be drilled to fit.
Would that fit a classic mag?

Thanks

[zipity_Bop]

The first one, though nice looking is a complete waste of an Xvalve. There in NO need for that on a pump, AND should not be run off a 12G.
ummmm lighter?? :rolleyes:

[maddboy32]

Maddboy: Love that rig, Ive had a pic in my photo folder for a while now. It was one that influenced me to purchase my Warp bodied E-tac :cheers:
thanks i'm glad you like her. she's my battle riffle. i just mow people down with that 20bps fullauto board......MUHAHAHAHAHA :shooting:

plus, i like the fact that i can throw that whole q-pod in 5 sec. i've been known to hit people in the shin, thigh, stomach, chest, and shoulder while they were running off the break. :D

[Anjin3515]

Warwitch: How did you get the grip so far forward? What are you useing to mount that to. Love it!

[Jaan]

Any chance to show off :D

Here's my 13 year old 'Mag...I don't particularly like MilSim, especially putting useless stuff on the gun like fake banana clips, but she looks a bit MilSim just because form was following function.

Mods: Level 10, custom made folding stock, old Smart Parts expansion chamber, 15* vertical ASA. The first pic is what it looks like now...Kruger was kind enough to donate wood grips for the MotM contest. The second picture is an older pic but you can see the folding stock...

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/918/krugermagpl7.jpg

http://www.jayloo.com/files/pics/40000/Right_rs.jpg (http://www.jayloo.com/photo_gallery/show_pic/40774.html)

This one was never meant to look like this, but it just came out that way. In person she looks very urban camo...she blends into my deck nicely...

Edit...oh yeah, mods. Level 10, Hyperframe, Splash parts, Warp feed, rear sling mount (freaking heavy bastard), tank cover by me Mum.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2238/outmag1dz8.jpg

[Tac-OneFun]

next ya need some matching urban cammo grips.... looks nice

[Warwitch]

Warwitch: How did you get the grip so far forward? What are you useing to mount that to. Love it!


Not sure I know what you mean :confused: The Q is mounted under the frame using their upgrade mounting system if thats what you meant.

[Newbelement]

This one was never meant to look like this, but it just came out that way. In person she looks very urban camo...she blends into my deck nicely...

Edit...oh yeah, mods. Level 10, Hyperframe, Splash parts, Warp feed, rear sling mount (freaking heavy bastard), tank cover by me Mum.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2238/outmag1dz8.jpg


LOOK! ITS A LEFTHANDED MAGGER!
:shooting: :)

[Anjin3515]

Not sure I know what you mean :confused: The Q is mounted under the frame using their upgrade mounting system if thats what you meant.

oops my bad I meant Kruger's.....and I see he said a friend milled it.

[FiXeL]

I'm not really into the milsim thing, but i do like to keep my options open. I've had a red dot scope on my warped xmag, but i didnt like the warp. And i really liked the weaver rails on a tac-one body, so it was abvious i should get a tac one for woodsball.

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3287.JPG

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3286.JPG

Yes, those grips do not suit this marker at all. I will replace those soon enough. The vertical bottle adapter was milled out of a standard one that fits a classic rail. I just milled it under a 15 degree angle and tapped two holes so it would fit a RT style rail. Nothing milsim tho, i just like it angled. And yes, it has been pneu-ed.

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3241.JPG

ULE-ed the rail, was hunting for a trasher but now i think i'll leave it this way. Maybe replace the stainless covers on the side for black ones.

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3305.JPG

I've added a red/green dot scope to it, and a speed feed. Only backdraw about playing woods with a speedfeed is that junk from your surroundings also gets in the halo. So maybe i'll put the lid back on since flipping a lid is hardly the big deal when playing woods. (but i like it tho)

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3303.JPG

The sight just barely fits on the marker due to the halo and sub-zero feedneck. A very tight fit but perfect.

[ThePixelGuru]

FiXeL: Hah, rockin' the german camo. How'd you camo the Halo? It looks awesome, came out wicked clean.

[FiXeL]

I painted the shells myself using Humbrol hobby enamel.

This stuff: http://www.michtoy.com/MTSCnewSite/supplies_folder/Humbrol/humbrolgreen.jpg
I still have around 60 different colors of that, and it was just a matter of matching the right colors to the camo jacket i have. Painting it was done with a brush and basicly i copied the camo pattern using the jacket as a example. After painting the shells were coated with a couple of layers matte varnish. It's quite easy to do, it only takes some patience while painting.

Here (http://www.paintballforum.nl/invboard/index.php?showtopic=1183) you can find more pics of the painting in progress (the text is in dutch but you should get the general idea)

I also have done a old V-force shield in flecktarn camo: Click4Pic (http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Paintball/FlecktarnGoggle/DSCN2281.JPG) but since i have my new grill i hardly use this mask anymore.

[custar]

Really nice work on the Fleck, Fixel. If you ever want to run German at OK D-Day, LMK.

custar

[Pudgey51]

FiXeL, that rail is sick man, u do it urself or someone else do it?

[FOG]

Jaan what is the barrel on the 1st mag w/ the folding stock and what kinda accuracy does it have ? thanks

[Jaan]

Jaan what is the barrel on the 1st mag w/ the folding stock and what kinda accuracy does it have ? thanksI think it's an old Taso. It's stainless steel and 8" long. The acuracy is just fine and the I.D. is .689

[Lenny]

Jaan, was it you I sold that barrel too? If so, it's an 8" Check It barrel. Quite nice. And I've always loved that gun.

[Jaan]

Jaan, was it you I sold that barrel too? If so, it's an 8" Check It barrel. Quite nice. And I've always loved that gun.Yup, it found a good home :)

[Fantom]

Just finished puting Absinthe together.

Not really milslim but better....dedicated to woodsball.

It is light and maneuverable. Has great ergonomics.

Soon to have a Hyperframe.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/ab6zh/PICT0001.jpg

[TwilightG]

Just finished puting Absinthe together.

Not really milslim but better....dedicated to woodsball.

It is light and maneuverable. Has great ergonomics.

Soon to have a Hyperframe.



Me likey! :clap:

The camo tape around the valve is a nice touch. Was the body annoed or painted?

[Josh2Xtremes]

http://scenariosource.com/images/GunTacEMag.jpg

My Tactical EMag with camo Boost VLocity and digicamo St!ffi Switch Kit Carbon fiber barrel, Advanced Tactical Camera from Pacific, a CCM low-rise clamping feed neck, Planet Eclipse OOPS on/off and a Crossfire bottle. That's actually my girlfriend Jen playing with it. Fast, ridiculously accurate and, of course, never breaks paint...ever. Photo courtesy scenariosource.com

Josh

[FiXeL]

FiXeL, that rail is sick man, u do it urself or someone else do it?

The rail is a standard Tac wingless rail that came on the older tacs. The ULE milling/programming was done on a CNC machining centre by me, and during milling i've adjusted and added a lot of cuts.

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3237.JPG
pic of milling in progress

Also the 15 degree front bottle adapter was made from a original classic FBA, made to fit a RT style rail. A few weeks ago i added a extra 1/8 npt port in the front for the LPR and put some more adjustments on the pneu setup. The LP hose runs trough the rail now, and i've modified a X7 foregrip to fit my tac. (with the LPR inside) Also i've added a few accents to make this a true custom gun.

No pics as of yet, since i have some more things to do, and i want to enter this in a MOTM.

[Fantom]

Me likey! :clap:

The camo tape around the valve is a nice touch. Was the body annoed or painted?

The body was annoed. It was my first try at it. I thought it was a disaster. I intended to be a dark green color. The "mistake" I made was to put the body into the dye bath when the dye was warm, so what happened is that not much dye went into the hydrated silicon oxide layer before the pores closed, but it went in bands, so now it produces an iridescent effect. Very cool. The actual color actually matches the local vegetation better than if it would have been dark green, so I decided to leave it like that. My daughter named my marker "Absinthe, the Green Fairy"

By the way, the body is a clone micromag. I don't know who made it but if you want one, Jay8541 still has several for sale.

The cammi on the valve is a stick-on cloth material and I'm sure will start falling off or unraveling soon.

So far this has been the best fitting and best performing marker I have own.

I'm waiting for an RT on/off coming fom AGD to be able to use the hyperframe I have for it and waiting as well for a J&J 14' ceramic barrel.

The QLoader works fantastic and balances the marker perfectly with the 22 cu inches tank that I use as a butt stock. BTW I bought the tank from WEVO.com. It gives me about 220 shots which is good for 2 QLoader pods and more than ample for a day of playing (my style, I don't waste much paint).

[Warwitch]

I agree with Twilight, looks good. From the pics the ano looks like it has a "combat worn" look. :headbang:

[ThePixelGuru]

I agree with Twilight, looks good. From the pics the ano looks like it has a "combat worn" look. :headbang:
Yeah, I've been thinking about doing a similar thing with a Tac-One body. Definitely like that effect, reminds me of the detail you could get by drybrushing models for miniature wargames... (whoops, now you all know I'm a geek :ninja: )

[TwilightG]

I agree with Twilight, looks good. From the pics the ano looks like it has a "combat worn" look. :headbang:

I wish I could do that with my old Tippmann Prolite. I just couldn't justify the cost though. Also the body isn't milled enough to get the same effect.

[Warwitch]

Thought I should add a pic of the CQB setup.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6964/cqbtacth7.jpg



Though it was more "milsim" and I loved how well the Q tucked under the TW2 stock, the new arrangement makes for much faster loading while staying on target. I couldnt effectively shoot left with the air coming in so far back. So to remedy this I bought a ND Dropkick rail and reversed it to provide some clearance for the remote line. So Ive ditched the sim concept for a more effective setup. Now I dont have to switch hands to shoot left. I can just roll the marker over like you would with a warp but its so much more compact.

[Fantom]

The CQB setup looks awsome, though the regular one is also very atractive.

[Warwitch]

Yeah, I've been thinking about doing a similar thing with a Tac-One body. Definitely like that effect, reminds me of the detail you could get by drybrushing models for miniature wargames... (whoops, now you all know I'm a geek :ninja: )


lol, Ive got a box of Space Orcs around here somewhere.... :rolleyes:

[Fantom]

Here is a pic of Absinthe afer the addition of a Hyperframe and a Simons red dot sight:

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/ab6zh/PICT0001-1.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd32/ab6zh/PICT0002.jpg

[Pudgey51]

ok dont wanna jack the thread but u guys with qloaders, how do the pods compare to the size of a normal pod? i figure they r heavier but r they longer? wider? same size? fill me in, debating between a qloader set up or warp.

[NU_METAL]

i like that name "Absinthe " fits that marker well

[Warwitch]

ok dont wanna jack the thread but u guys with qloaders, how do the pods compare to the size of a normal pod? i figure they r heavier but r they longer? wider? same size? fill me in, debating between a qloader set up or warp.

Pretty much the same size and weight (when loaded) as a 140 pod. Little bigger. Personaly I hate the Warp yet love the Q. Only holds 100 rounds though.

[Pudgey51]

Pretty much the same size and weight (when loaded) as a 140 pod. Little bigger. Personaly I hate the Warp yet love the Q. Only holds 100 rounds though.


will the qpods fit in a regular harness or vest?

[Warwitch]

will the qpods fit in a regular harness or vest?


As long as the pack/harness will accept 140 rnd. pods. Almost all of the SpecOps stuff will accomodate them.

[Pudgey51]

sweet, i got the warp but havent tried it yet. might give it a shot in the next week or so. but it just looks to big and bulky

[ThePixelGuru]

Didn't post this before because I never really considered it milsim, though certainly woodsball. Holds its own on the airball fields, though. The Qpods fit fine in my Empire pack. Just get an elastic loop style pack and they'll fit fine. So much smaller when you only want to carry a spare pod, anyway. Any more than that and I'd have to carry more gas. ;)
http://people.umass.edu/jtaupier/paintball/minimag/minimotm1.jpg

[Warwitch]

So much smaller when you only want to carry a spare pod, anyway.


QFT. One of the reasons I went with a Q in the first place was to cut down on paint consumption. If I run "tank on gun" all I need is my 2 pod tac leg pouch. And even running remote I dont need to reach around to grab my pods. Also a huge help in keeping me from losing my Q pods on the field too since you can put the empties away instead of throwing them aside for later.

[Zone Drifter]

Didn't post this before because I never really considered it milsim, though certainly woodsball. Holds its own on the airball fields, though. The Qpods fit fine in my Empire pack. Just get an elastic loop style pack and they'll fit fine. So much smaller when you only want to carry a spare pod, anyway. Any more than that and I'd have to carry more gas. ;)
Dude, I really love that setup. Very mobile and compact, I was actually thinking of copying it, but i would need to find a small tank and get a vertical adaptor, not to mention get a Q-loader, which i had hoped on doing eventually anyway. But yeah, love that setup, it looks sweet. :headbang:

Edit: How well does it work for you? Like, how many pods can you get off one full tank, and what kind of tank is that anyhow? i would like to get my hands on one.

[Fantom]

Didn't post this before because I never really considered it milsim, though certainly woodsball. Holds its own on the airball fields, though. The Qpods fit fine in my Empire pack. Just get an elastic loop style pack and they'll fit fine. So much smaller when you only want to carry a spare pod, anyway. Any more than that and I'd have to carry more gas. ;)
http://people.umass.edu/jtaupier/paintball/minimag/minimotm1.jpg

Awesome setup...looks very agile.

Named her yet?

[FOG]

Beautiufll! and practical,too
Im glad to see it ,...thats the way i want mine, How is the BALANCE ? ?

[ThePixelGuru]

Zone Drifter: I get ~200 shots off that tank, just enough to shoot two pods. That's a 3.5oz CO2 tank, by the way. You can find them on pump sites like Wevo. For longer games I switch to my 9oz tank.

Fantom: Yeah, I've been slowly cutting down on the size of my rig since I started playing. I started with a 98 Custom with a Flatline and huge shoulder stock. I've come a long way. No name for her yet, though.

FOG: Balance has never been a huge issue for me, but it's decent on this rig. The valve and tank kind of balance each other, and the Q isn't too heavy.

I've made a couple improvements since that photo, mostly a sight rail with a red dot, and an Intelliframe with wooden grips. Now the tank won't screw into the vertical adaptor, though, so I need a 15° ASA. Help me out if you've got one!

[FiXeL]

Somehow that minimag looks just right... Not as heavy as one with a hopper and full sized tank.

Same could be said of Absinthe, small but agile.

With my own woods gun i took a different approach... I like having a hopper on top (saves on headshots) and a 68ci tank for plenty of air. Not that i shoot that much paint, but i like to have more than i would need, just in case. Also this setup works for biggames for me, since i have enough paint and air on me do do some damage, but not that much it will slow me down.

So far i didnt show my gun yet because i wanted to enter it in the MOTM, but i'm feeling generous today because i finished some detail parts:

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3404.JPG

On top are the standard stainless steel jewels that come with a wingless tac rail. Below are my CNC milled "saw tooth" jewels i made today. These were cut from 6082 aluminum, and are so thin that they bend easily. They were very hard to make because of the size and thickness, but fortunatly i have some expierence milling small pieces.

I just hope these can be annoed.... :D

But this thread is about mill-sim markers, so here's my tac:

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3399.JPG

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3401.JPG

I call it the SovjetMag. Still working on it and probably will for the coming months. It has pneu, Palmers micro rock, custom milled 15 degree front bottle adapter, X7 AK47 modded frontgrip, SP 16" tactical barrel, Some magsmith ups, red dot, etc.

The to do list contains other grips, another loader (flecktarn does not fit) some anno jobs, some more tinkering.

Ow well, i'll get to my perfect woods marker eventually.... :D

[Warwitch]

Great attention to detail Fix. Really has a finished look to it. Looks like you took your time and put some forethought into it. :hail:

[FiXeL]

Actually i was planning to make this a e-tac and have gruntbull acid wash anno it. But i don't need a e-frame for woods, and when i got this marker from geekwarrior in june plans have changed constantly. At first i wanted it acid washed green/black with slime green accents, but after a while i got other plans, more milling, more dremeling, more drilling etc. I've had those russian legion grips on this marker, and after buying one sovjet star logo things got way different than i planned initially. It fitted the scope flip-up lid perfectly, and i wanted to go that way instead. The AK-47 frontgrip fits the theme perfectly, and i wanted a front grip instead of the standard bicicle grip, to have more of a rifle feel on it. All in all i think this marker will turn out well, but i still have to cover some details before i am totally sathisfied with it.

Cost is not an issue atm... Just want it done the way i like it! :)

[Swampy]

Fix that is freaking awesome. If it were mine a nice folding stock.


I bet when you play a game the new kids are screaming "The Russkies are coming" LOL

[snoopay700]

Fix, that looks awesome. It may be bad, but i didn't even have to look at your description to know what kind of front grip that was. I'm a little obsessed with that gun.

[geekwarrior]

:wow: nice Fixel!

[Lenny]

Somehow that minimag looks just right... Not as heavy as one with a hopper and full sized tank.

Same could be said of Absinthe, small but agile.

With my own woods gun i took a different approach... I like having a hopper on top (saves on headshots) and a 68ci tank for plenty of air. Not that i shoot that much paint, but i like to have more than i would need, just in case. Also this setup works for biggames for me, since i have enough paint and air on me do do some damage, but not that much it will slow me down.

So far i didnt show my gun yet because i wanted to enter it in the MOTM, but i'm feeling generous today because i finished some detail parts:

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3404.JPG

On top are the standard stainless steel jewels that come with a wingless tac rail. Below are my CNC milled "saw tooth" jewels i made today. These were cut from 6082 aluminum, and are so thin that they bend easily. They were very hard to make because of the size and thickness, but fortunatly i have some expierence milling small pieces.

I just hope these can be annoed.... :D

But this thread is about mill-sim markers, so here's my tac:

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3399.JPG

http://members1.chello.nl/u.haarsma/Tac-one/DSCN3401.JPG

I call it the SovjetMag. Still working on it and probably will for the coming months. It has pneu, Palmers micro rock, custom milled 15 degree front bottle adapter, X7 AK47 modded frontgrip, SP 16" tactical barrel, Some magsmith ups, red dot, etc.

The to do list contains other grips, another loader (flecktarn does not fit) some anno jobs, some more tinkering.

Ow well, i'll get to my perfect woods marker eventually.... :D
Effin' commy!

:ninja:

[ninja monkey]

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.8bd1a24dc4.jpg (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?8bd1a24dc4.jpg)

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.5b085d1911.jpg (http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5b085d1911.jpg)

[Warwitch]

Ninja: pretty good idea using the Opsgear shroud to protect your CF barrel. I will have to keep that in mind.

[Tig]

WOW, I like Absinthes Micro, thats a sharp looking marker.

Heres my Hyper Micro, its still in the works.
Still need a bottom line and some misc. parts. Plus I would like to re-ano it, maybe flat black.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x319/Tig2002/Picture069.jpg

[Don Carnage]

FiXel, that gun is awesome.

[aznmarkofdafiji]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/AnteriorMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/LeftMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/PosteriorMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/RightMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/RedDotSightMag.jpg

I think a closed reddot would make it look better... but I'm not a big fan of them

[Fantom]

aznmarkofdafiji,

Extremely cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Swampy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/AnteriorMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/LeftMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/PosteriorMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/RightMag.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/FlareFalcon/RedDotSightMag.jpg

I think a closed reddot would make it look better... but I'm not a big fan of them

who makes that site?

Also some one seriously patent or produce bolt on rails to tac/rt/emag rail.
Phase 1. Steal under pants
Phase 2. ???????
Phase 3. Profit

[aznmarkofdafiji]

who makes that site?

Also some one seriously patent or produce bolt on rails to tac/rt/emag rail.
Phase 1. Steal under pants
Phase 2. ???????
Phase 3. Profit

Red Dot sight is by ATN, mounted on a UTG tri-rail, with a Barska Scope going through it.

I had to dremmel part of the tri-rail to get it to fit the Barska Scope so it would fit the front end of the Tac-Rail

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

Back in the day I used to get real heavy into tactical mods. I still love the look but choose to go with the "less is more" philosophy. The Tac Light is actually for a night game that I do once a year. Normally I run without it.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/HOMELANDEFENDER/PaintMagnet.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/HOMELANDEFENDER/NightTac2.jpghttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/HOMELANDEFENDER/NightTac1.jpg

HLD...

[LegumeOfTerror]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_0024-1.jpg

didnt really use it much like this... though when i got the x-valve in and ULT bouncing it was pretty damn fast.

[jakeman7676]

Its kinda milsim with the stock

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/jakeman7676/DSCN1090.jpg

what it looked like before

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/jakeman7676/DSCN1024.jpg

[Warwitch]

Just threw on a Burris holographic and M6 light/laser. (knock off's) Gearing up for Blanding :shooting:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4342/dasmaguspm7.jpg

[JLBoyyy]

Here's mine
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/24314064923.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6476474)

[Warwitch]

Dude. You should put that in the MOTM for Nov. ^^^^ Thats friggin' awesome! :hail:

[dixieoutfitter94]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb170/dixieoutfitter94/P1010483.jpg

now its got a q loader. Not realy milslim but as good as it gets.

[FIST2CUFF]

Just threw on a Burris holographic and M6 light/laser. (knock off's) Gearing up for Blanding :shooting:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4342/dasmaguspm7.jpg


What brand/model is that sight, where did you get it and how much??

[Warwitch]

What brand/model is that sight, where did you get it and how much??



Its a knock off of a Burris Fast Fire pistol sight: http://www.burrisoptics.com/fastfire.html . Do an Ebay search and they will pop up. I think it was like $50. ITS TINY!!! About 1.5"x2". Absolutely love it.

Ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Holographic-Micro-Auto-Brightness-Reflex-Red-Dot-Sight_W0QQitemZ330190241048QQihZ014QQcategoryZ7307 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :cheers:

[WUNDERWAFFEN]

Until this month I have never used the internet for paintball. It has been that long since I played. This was a pf/cp 68automag that I bought Aug '92 from General Joe's paintball. Been too long to remember when I finally came up with this idea. I do remember that it was before "Saving Private Ryan" since that movie made this gun recognizable. Originally had a different expansion chamber and old duckbill bottom-line on it. Played at a local indoor "field" on November 1st, first time since early 2001, and all I had to do was replace the on/off + powertube orings!

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[warbeak2099]

I do remember that it was before "Saving Private Ryan" since that movie made this gun recognizable.

Eh I would say that WWII made the Thompson recognizable lol.

[Jaan]

Eh I would say that WWII made the Thompson recognizable lol.I'm sure that the Chicago mobs of the 1920's prohibition era might have had a wee bit to do with it too. :)

I wonder how long it will be until people can no longer figure out why they're sometimes called a"Chicago Typewriter" because they've never heard someone using a typewriter...

[WUNDERWAFFEN]

Exactly Jaan. Im new to this forum and that was my first post. Saving private ryan was a time reference '99, and made WW2 cool again to the general public. After that movie everyone on the paintball fields from the young foreign kids that barely spoke english to the girls working the snack stand knew it. Because of gangsters with thompsons, congress passed the national firearms act in 1934 severely limiting fully automatic firearm ownership. It was designed during WWI, served in WW2, korea and even vietnam by americans and is still used abroad.

[cerrik]

cus .45 is a good round and the Thompson is reliable and easily maintained. :shooting:

Sweet mag BTW... I'd love to do that to my other one.

[spectre184]

Until this month I have never used the internet for paintball. It has been that long since I played. This was a pf/cp 68automag that I bought Aug '92 from General Joe's paintball. Been too long to remember when I finally came up with this idea. I do remember that it was before "Saving Private Ryan" since that movie made this gun recognizable. Originally had a different expansion chamber and old duckbill bottom-line on it. Played at a local indoor "field" on November 1st, first time since early 2001, and all I had to do was replace the on/off + powertube orings!



Wunder Waffen, You should look into one of these trinity gas thru magazines (http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=g_I6qIPHgpE67sSOB-f6AIkOCkPZYLcbGFM=?CategoryName=paintball-gas-systems-expansion-chambers) To bad they dont have a MP-5 clip, but still any od those would make you gun look awesome. Which BTW it is!!! :dance:

[Swampy]

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5778/sta70058qe5.jpg

My RT w/lvl10, Hyperframed, Tac-one is almost complete just needs some air lines/fittings, and a front grip. And a trouble shoot cause the valve and lvl 10 was used and leaking.

[custar]

What is the trigger on that Hyperframe?

custar

[Rudz]

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9859/tacpumpiu2.jpg

[Swampy]

What is the trigger on that Hyperframe?

custar

LOL I don't even know I got that with the frame.

[Warwitch]

Rudz, that pump Tac is friggin unbelievable :hail:

[cerrik]

Here's my mil-sim addition.


<a href="http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg"><img src=" http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

[RehKal]

This is my baby, the Z-90 as I'm calling it. The original plan did not start out to make it so similar to the P-90 but it is how it came out.

Mods:
Stock minimag
Freak barrel back
Custom 1 inch front
Q-Loader
Customized Slide on Rail
Customized Weaver Rail mounted on slide on rail
Tac Gear 4 retical holo sight from spec ops
T2W air through stock from spec ops
Foregrip extender from Luke's Customs
Micro Rock Regulator from palmers

The Palmer LPR isn't connected to anything currently, it is for a future under barrel LAW I'm designing for scenario play. Or possibly a pneumatic conversion later.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/RehKalMurloq/PaintballStuff/Z903.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/RehKalMurloq/PaintballStuff/Z902.jpg

This image I'm including just for size comparison to a P-90 airsoft gun.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/RehKalMurloq/PaintballStuff/Z901.jpg

[Texas Trigger]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/vertie_88/DSC01634-1.jpg

"Elvira" :D Don't own her anymore...She was VERY fast. Outran that Halo like it was a gravity feed.

[Chris_automag_07]

Here's my mil-sim addition.


<a href="http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg"><img src=" http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

this is amazing. the p90 PDW is by far my favorite rifle. i would love to make a mag be one... did you use an airsoft shell to make this?

[cerrik]

this is amazing. the p90 PDW is by far my favorite rifle. i would love to make a mag be one... did you use an airsoft shell to make this?

Yeah... used a dremel to carve away the insides to make the mag fit. The toughest part was the clip area for the powerfeed. And then of course the pneumatics were tough. But over all a great finished product. All the weight is in the back and that's fine because it's braced against your shoulder. Nice and tight setup. And even the Q-loader doesn't unbalance it noticiably.

[Bagheera]

Decided to bring my original Automag 68 out of mothballs (it's been sitting since '93 or '94), and going to rebuild it and upgrade it/milsim it. However, I'm planning on making it look like a semi-auto sniper rifle from BF2142.

Original thread;
http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223505

Pics! As you can see, the 2nd design is much cleaner, but uses a much smaller co2 tank, either a 3.5 oz or 9 oz tank. Right now, it's a 12 oz tank. The milsim shroud I'm planning will actually be functional, and house the tank and Qloader, plus it will give me two grip points forward of the trigger, for my left hand. In the pics, you will see the original mag, the mag with parts rearranged, and then the Park-52 shroud.



The gun from the game, the Park-52 Sniper Rifle;

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/roguesniper383/park52sniperyv2.gif



First pass at design, housing the original 12 oz tank and the Qloader in the back;

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/roguesniper383/Park52ProjectC1.jpg



Much cleaner design, housing a smaller tank up front, and putting the Qloader entirely in a narrower stock that more closely resembles the original gun. Since I have to swap a Qloader every 100 shots, and a 3.5 oz tank gets 150-200 shots per tank, I can carry a 3.5 oz tank for every Qloader pod I carry.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/roguesniper383/Park52ProjectC2.jpg

I call it the Park-52 Mag.

[ThePixelGuru]

Bagheera: Nice concept. Those last two pictures look a bit like my marker (http://people.umass.edu/jtaupier/paintball/minimag/minimag1.jpg). I was inspired by famousgamer's thread (http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=189708), lots of great ideas there. You should skim it and pick out what you like. Cheers!

[Freebird]

I think some of you have milsim and scenario mixed up. Im not knocking any of your markers, they are some INSANE! scenario guns, but milsim is designed to replicate a military firearm. like, mine


well im gonna let the pictures do the talking here,
ive completely modded it myself

agd automag 68 classic valve
agd lvl 10 antichop
20 all american tactical barrel


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0314.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0313.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0312.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0311.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0310.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0309.jpg

questions, comments, criticism
all apreciated


i got another mag project in the works, keep an eye out

[Jaan]

Since I have to swap a Qloader every 100 shots, and a 3.5 oz tank gets 150-200 shots per tank, I can carry a 3.5 oz tank for every Qloader pod I carry.That seems a bit much, carrying all those 3.5oz tanks. It would be like stock class on acid. Why don't you just go remote?

[Bagheera]

Bagheera: Nice concept. Those last two pictures look a bit like my marker (http://people.umass.edu/jtaupier/paintball/minimag/minimag1.jpg). I was inspired by famousgamer's thread (http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=189708), lots of great ideas there. You should skim it and pick out what you like. Cheers!

Famousgamer's Snipermag was definitely an inspiration. The last two pictures are the concept with parts only, unshrouded. The marker shown above the last two will be the Mag with the Park-52 shroud, inspired from Battlefield 2142. I like your setup. As you can see, I'm planning something similar, but tucked in even tighter, if possible. Is that a 9 oz or 3.5 oz tank on the front of your marker? How do you like the balance?



That seems a bit much, carrying all those 3.5oz tanks. It would be like stock class on acid. Why don't you just go remote?

Because then it doesn't feel like a fully integrated marker. I want to have a marker that has everything on it, yet is a super clean design. Even on our games that would last all day, I'd use a third of the paint my buddies used, or less (typically 200 shots or less) but still do well in eliminations, so I don't need a ton of air either.



Photo posted again, with description;

1st - Image of Park-52 from BF2142
2nd - Park-52 Shroud on 68 Automag
3rd and 4th - 68 Automag with Park-52 Shroud removed, showing a 3.5 oz and 9 oz tank.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/roguesniper383/Park52ProjectC2.jpg

[Pudgey51]

I think some of you have milsim and scenario mixed up. Im not knocking any of your markers, they are some INSANE! scenario guns, but milsim is designed to replicate a military firearm. like, mine


well im gonna let the pictures do the talking here,
ive completely modded it myself

agd automag 68 classic valve
agd lvl 10 antichop
20 all american tactical barrel


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0314.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0313.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0312.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0311.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0310.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c256/nate911chew/100_0309.jpg

questions, comments, criticism
all apreciated


i got another mag project in the works, keep an eye out


I gotta agree with freebird (nice name by the way :headbang: i half expected u to be from the south tho ) that is the true definition on a milsim marker. so how long did it take u to make that? hows the weight? where u stashin the tank or u running remote? so many questions....senses overload :eek:

[Bagheera]

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer-female.htm

" Female bottle threads on the intput end for direct connection to a bottle. Most commonly used in the bottom line position. Gauge can be installed to read regulated pressure upon request."

Playing with the idea of using a 45 degree elbow right in front of the Palmer Female Stabilizer, so it can be integrated into the front grip. I really want form to follow function, so nearly every cosmetic piece on this gun actually has a purpose.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/roguesniper383/Park52ProjectC3.jpg

[ThePixelGuru]

Famousgamer's Snipermag was definitely an inspiration. The last two pictures are the concept with parts only, unshrouded. The marker shown above the last two will be the Mag with the Park-52 shroud, inspired from Battlefield 2142. I like your setup. As you can see, I'm planning something similar, but tucked in even tighter, if possible. Is that a 9 oz or 3.5 oz tank on the front of your marker? How do you like the balance?
It's a 3.5oz; 9oz fits but it gets a bit front heavy. Balance is good with the 3.5oz, though. Also, I used a vertical ASA and a Palmer 90° ASA Adaptor to put the tank there. A lot less work than many other setups. I can get about 200 shots off my 3.5oz, so I usually only carry what's on the marker plus an extra Qpod.

[Chris_automag_07]

this is amazing. the p90 PDW is by far my favorite rifle. i would love to make a mag be one... did you use an airsoft shell to make this?

what pnuematics? did you not just lengthen the sear?

[cerrik]

No. I used a 3 way that is actuated by the airsoft trigger and that opperates a piston in front of the cut down sear to operate the mag. That's why there is a blue Oricle Tickler attatched to the remote inlet, it operates my trigger. I'll post pics of the insides when I get home from work.

Edit: Better yet, go here. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223536

I have internal shots here.

[Bagheera]

No. I used a 3 way that is actuated by the airsoft trigger and that opperates a piston in front of the cut down sear to operate the mag. That's why there is a blue Oricle Tickler attatched to the remote inlet, it operates my trigger. I'll post pics of the insides when I get home from work.

Edit: Better yet, go here. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223536

I have internal shots here.

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg"><img src=" http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag5.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

<a href="http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag3.jpg"><img src=" http://www.geocities.com/tinashrine/pmag3.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

This is awesome Cerrik. What was your concept and build process like? It looks like your trigger is moved forward. Where did you get the body from?

Edit: Nevermind, I read some more, and saw you used an airsoft body, and a pnuematic system to actuate the trigger, flippin' genius. I need to come up with ideas as to how to craft the body for the Park-52 Mag, any ideas? I'm thinking some custom cut aluminum (my uncle is a genius for crafting parts, he crafted a custom generator bracket to work around the headers on my '57 Bel Air), and maybe some wood parts for the parts that really need to have that sculpted look. I don't work every day in epoxy like Famousgamer does. ;)

I need to get a grip on the front to shroud the Palmer's stabilizer, and then a foregrip that will cover most of the front 3.5oz tank, but I haven't seen any good candidates for off-the-shelf grips that will do the job.

[cerrik]

Well… thank you first off. I kept seeing tons of threads all over for mil-sim markers and using Airsoft bodies for them. Lots of ppl always turn to the Ion as their marker of choice for this kind of mod. My mag is reliable and sturdy; so I used it. Bought the P90 airsoft on ebay for ~$30. Took it apart, trashed the internals and began grinding with a dremel. I would stop every now and again and measure against the mag of course. There were little black flecks everywhere. That airsoft body more or less melts as opposed to cuts when using a grinding wheel. If I had it to do again, I would have a better basis with which to make it a cleaner mod.

The grip was fun. I hacked the bottom of the CF grip and then had to mod the upper portion to accept a Piston from my Pneumatics kit from Cyberave68. Then I picked up 2 metal plates in the door section of Home Depot and tapped screws through the whole thing and used nuts to secure. Those metal plates hold the piston in snug. The piston actuates the sear. I had an extra sear that had broken and no longer had the trigger rod. This was connected to the 3-way valve up near the trigger of the airsoft via hose.

When I pull the trigger, it opens the 3 way, allowing air from the Tickler to work the piston, there-by firing the marker.

[Bagheera]

Edited my post above, with new realizations, heh.

Damn that's slick. Hat's off to you, that is if I wore a hat. :hail:

Is there any lag due to the extra monkey motion involved between your trigger pull and the firing of the paintball?

[Bagheera]

I was looking online for hollow grips, and found this site. Looks like a gold mine for anybody building a Mil Sim Mag with authentic military grade parts, but seeing as how I've never used this site, I can't vouch for them.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-deact_furniture.htm

[Whee McGee]

I was looking online for hollow grips, and found this site. Looks like a gold mine for anybody building a Mil Sim Mag with authentic military grade parts, but seeing as how I've never used this site, I can't vouch for them.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-deact_furniture.htm
Too bad the Dragunov stock/trigger assembly is sold out, that would look absolutely sick.

[Freebird]

I gotta agree with freebird (nice name by the way :headbang: i half expected u to be from the south tho ) that is the true definition on a milsim marker. so how long did it take u to make that? hows the weight? where u stashin the tank or u running remote? so many questions....senses overload :eek:
the air comes out of the drivers side right on the lower side of the grip. it is a nipple to attach a remote coil, the weight is alright, a little on the heavy side now that im runnin a Q loader. haha any other questions you have ill answer.



and skynyrd is the best band on the face of the planet, end of story. :headbang:

[cerrik]

Is there any lag due to the extra monkey motion involved between your trigger pull and the firing of the paintball?


No, no lag. With it being Pneumatic, it operates just like any other pneumag put together by AO'ers. Just not as fast of a trigger pull because it's and airsoft trigger. But I can get probably about 8+ bps out of her... I'll have to test it out.

[cerrik]

Edit: Nevermind, I read some more, and saw you used an airsoft body, and a pnuematic system to actuate the trigger, flippin' genius. I need to come up with ideas as to how to craft the body for the Park-52 Mag, any ideas? I'm thinking some custom cut aluminum (my uncle is a genius for crafting parts, he crafted a custom generator bracket to work around the headers on my '57 Bel Air), and maybe some wood parts for the parts that really need to have that sculpted look. I don't work every day in epoxy like Famousgamer does. ;)

I need to get a grip on the front to shroud the Palmer's stabilizer, and then a foregrip that will cover most of the front 3.5oz tank, but I haven't seen any good candidates for off-the-shelf grips that will do the job.


I would start with a nice block 'o wood. Do your drawings, sketches and then do some wood work and make sure you have it the way you want it. Get your shroud exactly like you want it out of wood first. Then step it up to use Alum or plastics. It may take a while to carve it and it might be heavy as all hell but I've seen what your trying to do. Go slow and do it right, it'll turn out better than you imagined.

I'd like to make my next project a mag inside a shroud for the ALIENS Pulse rifle but I'll need more tools first.

[Bagheera]

I would start with a nice block 'o wood. Do your drawings, sketches and then do some wood work and make sure you have it the way you want it. Get your shroud exactly like you want it out of wood first. Then step it up to use Alum or plastics. It may take a while to carve it and it might be heavy as all hell but I've seen what your trying to do. Go slow and do it right, it'll turn out better than you imagined.

I'd like to make my next project a mag inside a shroud for the ALIENS Pulse rifle but I'll need more tools first.

Got any reference pics for the Pulse rifle?

Thanks for the advice, will do. I'm still on the hunt for hollow grips to shroud the Palmers stabilizer, 45 degree elbow, and braided air hose. I may even cut a hole in the grip in order to have the gauge nestled within the grip.

[Bagheera]

Bicycle grips! That's what I'll use to cover the Palmer stabilizer, and have it double as a grip. I can put the Palmer stabilizer inside of metal tubing, and the bicycle grip can go on the outside. I can continue the bent metal tubing (probably weld it to square on the bottom) to have a place for the co2 line to continue running down into, before heading up and into the mag valve. Yay! :D

[211]

as long as your cover didnt block the bleed hole, then that would be a sneaky way to mount a reg

[snoopay700]

No. I used a 3 way that is actuated by the airsoft trigger and that opperates a piston in front of the cut down sear to operate the mag. That's why there is a blue Oricle Tickler attatched to the remote inlet, it operates my trigger. I'll post pics of the insides when I get home from work.

Edit: Better yet, go here. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=223536

I have internal shots here.
I have to say, that is an awesome rig, that used to be one of my favorite guns at one time.

[Bagheera]

Too bad the Dragunov stock/trigger assembly is sold out, that would look absolutely sick.


Aren't they beautiful? :)

[Rainman229]

Fn P90 pneumag
http://www.rainman229.com/images/web/Mags/p90mag7.JPG
http://www.rainman229.com/images/web/Mags/p90mag8.JPG