So AGD(the company) is moving. Whats up with that?

[BigEvil]

Didn't have a clue until someone pointed out a pop-up on the Airgun website saying they are moving. I am not sure if it was brought up here, but its hard to say with all the crashes going on. Anyone have any info? This cannot possibly be a good thing. It's not like the are going to be expanding the company or anything.

Will the next tour of the AGD facility include Dave's basement and garage? Better question would be, what does this mean of the inventory of parts and spares? Are we going to be witnessing the discontinuation of products when inventory runs out or will there be new ones made to replace them?

Is it time to start shopping for a new gun yet?

[Cow hunter]

well this cant be a good sign....

is it possible that AGD is finally grinding to a halt?

[Ninjeff]

i, myself, am wondering the same thing.

But let not get those rumor mills turning.

Actually, lets do.

I heard they were moving to a larger facility so they can start making th 08 Automag. They expect unusually high demand. :p

[StygShore]

I have been asking this for a few days... Tom's moving to AZ, the store is moving.... coincidence?



Styg


Rumor mill begins grinding......

[biojuggernaut]

A move doesnt have to be a bad thing does it?? :wow:

[Cow hunter]

well i tries to edit my posts up there, but it wont let me.... anyway

maybe the relocation is just to lower the cost to keep AGD open?

[RogueFactor]

maybe the relocation is just to lower the cost to keep AGD open?

Anybody that has been to the original location knows that its overkill for whats needed. Id venture a guess that you are correct.

[pablo4429]

AGD is moving and soon to be "made in china," "assembled in mexico"

[jenarelJAM]

AGD is moving and soon to be "made in china," "assembled in mexico"
I lol'd :rofl:

[Tao]

Actually I see this whole thing on moving as a good thing. let us ASSUME that it is to lower costs. Hey they are making an effort rather than giving up. Basically seeing change is a sign of life from my perspective.

[BigEvil]

maybe the relocation is just to lower the cost to keep AGD open?


I hope so. Im not willing to have to let my Mag's sit around and collect dust like relics because I cannot get parts for them.

[kevdupuis]

They've moved to Cary Il. just a little west up highway 14.

[Doobie]

I'm thinking the Basement thing might be true...
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa3/Doobie1970/random/AGDnewLocation.jpg

[BigEvil]

Oh good god. I hate being right when Im not even trying.

/smacks self in head

[Warwitch]

Oh good god. I hate being right when Im not even trying.

/smacks self in head


Thats right, this is all BE's fault! Its time for a lynchin'! :argh:

[Geoff Call]

They moved to cut some major costs in their facility. A smart move on Dave's part IMHO. This should allow them to keep things running for a while. Shouldn't be much change in the services provided.

-Geoff

[Tac-OneFun]

their lawn needs a little water.

[Warwitch]

They moved to cut some major costs in their facility. A smart move on Dave's part IMHO. This should allow them to keep things running for a while. Shouldn't be much change in the services provided.

-Geoff



On the same note, it will also make it easier to close shop if/when the time comes :(

[BigEvil]

On the same note, it will also make it easier to close shop if/when the time comes :(


Yeah, all he would have to do is hit the button on the garage door closer :p

[mag_lover05]

Yeah, all he would have to do is hit the button on the garage door closer :p

:mad: :cuss:

dont even joke about it

:cuss: :mad:

[BigEvil]

:mad: :cuss:

dont even joke about it

:cuss: :mad:


AWE COME ON THATS FUNNY STUFF!

[paintballfiend]

Honestly, what did you guys expect?

[Warwitch]

their lawn needs a little water.

and a couple of air bunkers :shooting:


I wonder if he has the elves all couped up and chained in the sweatshop like basement?

[RavishingEddie]

Hey guys I am starting to worry. All I know about AGD is their products. Are they really relocating to a basement? :( I love AGD too much :cry:

[BigEvil]

Hey guys I am starting to worry. All I know about AGD is their products. Are they really relocating to a basement? :( I love AGD too much :cry:

I dont think anyone has said anything, I was just by hypothetical. No one knows yet what the story is.

[geekwarrior]

Yeah, all he would have to do is hit the button on the garage door closer :p


:spit_take

[mr doo doo]

hahahahah, big evil, you make it sound so true.

[mag_lover05]

Yeah, all he would have to do is hit the button on the garage door closer :p

i can see TK sitting at a little table, at the end of the driveway, thats a foot off ground, selling parts/guns and repairing valves
:rofl:

[Tao]

i can see TK sitting at a little table, at the end of the driveway, thats a foot off ground, selling parts/guns and repairing valves
:rofl:

It is easy to visualize thats the way he started as a business man (before paintball). He even has old pictures of his garrage-workshop on his website.

[itsacaddy]

Will someone from AGD please put an end to this madness! Just bought a new mag yesterday. I hope they're not shutting down!

[ThePixelGuru]

Yeah, I'm never one to think AGD is shutting down, but it'd be nice to get some official updates now and then. Y'know, so I don't have a heart attack every time they move to a basement or something.

[AGDRetro]

Yea, if Zupe or Tom could shed some light on the subject that would be great, even bad news is better than all this speculation...

Long live AGD :cheers:

[SCpoloRicker]

Oh Noez AGD is teh dieying!!1

[turbo chicken]

:mad: :cuss:

dont even joke about it

:cuss: :mad:

^i'm with this guy .... it's not funny at all... i can't bring myself to joke about it... this is all to real for me ...


---------------------------------
edit ok i kid, i kid .... it was kinda funny ... sad ... but funny at the same time ... kind of laughing at a funeral...


*vows to but another mag and parts once Pug or Sergison k-frame is acquired*

[JRingold]

Seriously, with most of the sales being through channels and the Internet, is a storefront really necessary? I mean, if Zupe wants his employees to sit in their pajamas while working, sounds like a great way to make them happy AND lower costs. Really, you need one guy who answers the phones and then calls back customers and someone to check the email and someone to run out to the insured storage facility for the parts and ship them out, or have the MFG of the parts drop ship direct. I never understood why people always wanted to hold inventory on hand. Work the deal with the suppliers so they can make runs on demand. It's the Wal-Mart way...

Besides, the basement of those houses has to be at least 1800 to 2400 square feet. That's got to be more than enough warehouse space currently.

Although I would have gone with a PO box personally so the stalkers couldn't find my house and bother me all the time. AO is the worst cult I've ever belonged to... ;) :hail:

[nathanjones008]

a explanation from a AGD rep would be nice :clap:

[Ninjeff]

a explanation from a AGD rep would be nice :clap:

agreed.

Im kinda worried.

[peewee]

a explanation from a AGD rep would be nice :clap:

Come on Zupe whats the scoop! ;) How about an "Annual State of AGD Address".

[nathanjones008]

Yes state of the union address! Its the least they can do. I think mags have the biggest fan base ever! :clap:

[wjr]

Maybe someone ought to call them.

[questionful]

Yes state of the union address! Its the least they can do. I think mags have the biggest fan base ever! :clap:
:spit_take


. . .



:(

[flyingpootang]

What AGD closing down??? Quick someone sell me their SFL cheap..... :clap:

[Tao]

Maybe someone ought to call them.

NBo one answers the phone. I have had an issue I need tech to help me with but the tech email is down along with noone answering the phone.

[Ninjeff]

This sure did get me to thinking. Does any other company in paintball have such a large and rabid fanbase as AGD? Ive never seen a collection of people as devoted to one company. And rightly so! I am really scared that all the talk of AGD dieing may be real this time.... :(

[DeTrevni]

^^^ Well, that's because everyone here is a fan of the mag. AGD is the only company to have produced a mag, so it only makes sense that the company has a huge fanbase.

[Ninjeff]

^^^ Well, that's because everyone here is a fan of the mag. AGD is the only company to have produced a mag, so it only makes sense that the company has a huge fanbase.

Right, i know that. I know why people on HERE are crazy about em. But the love for AGD and automags goes beyond this site. Ive met alot of people with alot of respect for AGD. Seems there isnt too many other companies with such a high level of respect and admiration.

[skipdogg]

If you want Tom to say something I suggest starting a new thread that includes 'TOM' in the topic. He has stated before, if you address a topic directly to him, he will answer.

[Warwitch]

Right, i know that. I know why people on HERE are crazy about em. But the love for AGD and automags goes beyond this site. Ive met alot of people with alot of respect for AGD. Seems there isnt too many other companies with such a high level of respect and admiration.


AKA and AGD for life :headbang:

[AGD]

Guys its pretty simple, if AGD were going out of business you could tell REALLY EASY because we would have a:
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE, EVERYTHING MUST GO

Until you see that you can be pretty sure we are not going down the drain over night. Dave is cutting expenses, that is always a good thing. There are new things in the works all centered around AGD staying around a while.

AGD

[wjr]

Guys its pretty simple, if AGD were going out of business you could tell REALLY EASY because we would have a:
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE, EVERYTHING MUST GO

Until you see that you can be pretty sure we are not going down the drain over night. Dave is cutting expenses, that is always a good thing. There are new things in the works all centered around AGD staying around a while.

AGD

Is it the warpfeed v2? OH GOD PLEASE TELL ME IT IS!!!

[Ninjeff]

Guys its pretty simple, if AGD were going out of business you could tell REALLY EASY because we would have a:
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE, EVERYTHING MUST GO

Until you see that you can be pretty sure we are not going down the drain over night. Dave is cutting expenses, that is always a good thing. There are new things in the works all centered around AGD staying around a while.

AGD


::speechless::

:cry:

Im so HAAAAPPPPYYYYY.

[AGD]

Clarification:

The new '"things" are not products but financial arrangements. Stability first, sorry.

AGD

[BigEvil]

Guys its pretty simple, if AGD were going out of business you could tell REALLY EASY because we would have a:
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE, EVERYTHING MUST GO

Until you see that you can be pretty sure we are not going down the drain over night. Dave is cutting expenses, that is always a good thing. There are new things in the works all centered around AGD staying around a while.

AGD


Glad to hear. :-)

[nathanjones008]

AGd is at least doing something! :clap: Perhaps this is a good move.( downseizing facility)hope this is the last phase of the company. :cry:

[50 cal]

(whew) :)

[insixdays777]

awesome...Thanks for the update Tom!

I wanta see my future kids play with a 2025 Automag! Long Live AGD.

[rmg]

Thanks for the update.

[Pzippy]

This sure did get me to thinking. Does any other company in paintball have such a large and rabid fanbase as AGD?

Dye, because of all the "agg" kids, and PPS, since that's some good stuff too.

[Ninjeff]

Dye, because of all the "agg" kids, and PPS, since that's some good stuff too.


Yea, but they are "flash in the pan" type fans. Here today, gone tomorrow.

AGD fans tend to stick around while.

[Doobie]

Guys its pretty simple, if AGD were going out of business you could tell REALLY EASY because we would have a:
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE, EVERYTHING MUST GO

Until you see that you can be pretty sure we are not going down the drain over night. Dave is cutting expenses, that is always a good thing. There are new things in the works all centered around AGD staying around a while.

AGD

Good to hear! I'm sorry about the Google pic. I wasn't trying to fan the flames :tard:

BTW, I just got back from Invasion of Normandy with Trina. Lots of 'Mags around! Lot's of "cool gun" comments about Trina's X-mag as well!
Long Live AGD! :hail:

[Tao]

Clarification:

The new '"things" are not products but financial arrangements. Stability first, sorry.

AGD

Is it true that the business is at a residential address? I would hate to see the compnay down size so much to loose staff. I am pretty new to the AGD world, but I know many of those people have been there for years and I hope that their dedication can continue and they aren't out of the job.

[nate2k191]

i know i'm a member of the fan-base because i admire AGD for making quality, innovative products, like the flatline, 6-pak, z-grip, AIR valve, sydarm, e-mag, and everything else.

also, i doubt they are moving to a residential area, they were in a huge factory, they're probably just downsizing to a 'pro-shop' sized space... or one thats just cheaper.

Tom's a smart man, he invented the mag, and studies astrology and stuff, i think he' keep AGD alive as long as we care... and he has a bit of excess time and money.

thanks tom.

[Doobie]

also, i doubt they are moving to a residential area, they were in a huge factory, they're probably just downsizing to a 'pro-shop' sized space... or one thats just cheaper.

ummm.that's the new address off the website dude.


Tom's a smart man, he invented the mag, and studies astrology and stuff, i think he' keep AGD alive as long as we care... and he has a bit of excess time and money.

thanks tom.

TOM! Check your bank account! Someone's hacked your account :ninja: !
Now you are going to have to be careful with all that spare time and money you rich, fossil hunting playboy, you! ;)

[nate2k191]

ummm.that's the new address off the website dude.

doh.

[mr doo doo]

wow, i cant believe its true... well, as long as we can still get parts and such, AGD will live on!

[Ninjeff]

CHUFF CHUFF! :cheers:

[stevewar]

Clarification:

The new '"things" are not products but financial arrangements. Stability first, sorry.

AGD


I'm just going to throw this out here because I love AGD; have owned and played with only 1 gun since 1993, and wouldn't trade my classic in for the world..

We all want to see AGD thrive and continue with the innovation and quality that all "maggers" have grown to love and expect out of our equipment. Now I'm farily new to this board, but I know about Tom's retirement and have read the threads about AGDs financial struggles. It's a shame to watch such a great company who values their customers and provides the best customer service in the busness, along with top quality products, be devalued by garbage markers created for the sole purpose of being sold at Wal-mart.

That said, AGD needs sales, and there is a way that all of us AO'ers can help. With the HUGE fan base, AGD needs to create an affiliate sales program so that WE can advertise for them. All those who are willing to learn how affiliate and internet marketing works for the purpose of helping AGD grow please chime in. Hopefully we can convince AGD to develop the program and grow.

If anyone from AGD reads this post, I can help with developing the program and with web site development.

please please please get in touch with me.

-Steve Warshaw

[grEnAlEins]

My first thought is tax purposes... :confused: They used to be in Wheeling IIRC... That area (Mount Prospect, Prospect Heights, Wheeling) is mighty expensive nowadays... I live in the area, so I can tell you that land value and taxes are shooting up :cool:

[BigEvil]

I'm just going to throw this out here because I love AGD; have owned and played with only 1 gun since 1993, and wouldn't trade my classic in for the world..

We all want to see AGD thrive and continue with the innovation and quality that all "maggers" have grown to love and expect out of our equipment. Now I'm farily new to this board, but I know about Tom's retirement and have read the threads about AGDs financial struggles. It's a shame to watch such a great company who values their customers and provides the best customer service in the busness, along with top quality products, be devalued by garbage markers created for the sole purpose of being sold at Wal-mart.

That said, AGD needs sales, and there is a way that all of us AO'ers can help. With the HUGE fan base, AGD needs to create an affiliate sales program so that WE can advertise for them. All those who are willing to learn how affiliate and internet marketing works for the purpose of helping AGD grow please chime in. Hopefully we can convince AGD to develop the program and grow.

If anyone from AGD reads this post, I can help with developing the program and with web site development.

please please please get in touch with me.

-Steve Warshaw


Dude, if you REALLY want to help AGD thrive, no, SURVIVE.. you need to

BUY MORE MAGS!!!! :cheers:

[RogueFactor]

Dude, if you REALLY want to help AGD thrive, no, SURVIVE.. you need to

BUY MORE MAGS!!!! :cheers:

True. Upgrade the 1993 mag.

[Army]

i
Tom's a smart man, he invented the mag, and studies astrology and stuff,.....

thanks tom.

That would be ASTRONOMY. If Tom used tarot cards to predict his future, I gotta think he would have trimmed his mustache...


/just sayin' :rofl:

[Muzikman]

That would be ASTRONOMY. If Tom used tarot cards to predict his future, I gotta think he would have trimmed his mustache...


/just sayin' :rofl:


That is some funny poop.

Good to see you are getting on the computer quite a bit Dave! Hope things are going as well as can be expected.

[hitech]

You guys have got to stop busting on Tom's mustache, it's giving me a complex... :wow:

:cheers: