Lets See Those Firearms!

[Warwitch]

I know a lot of AO are avid shooters as well as p'ballers. Anybody else exercise their Second Ammendment rights? Id love to see what AO packs!

Had this for about three years now. Best handgun Ive ever owned.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4537/dscf0169pq6.jpg

[PyRo]

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/351/img1311iv4.jpg
Top to bottom

1842 Springfield (repo)
69cal smoothbore

Mosin Nagat M91
Decent shape, missing the rear sight, not even sure what caliber it is. Only bought it because it was too cheap not to buy.

Ruger all weather 77/22
Stainless with a laminated stock in .22 magnum. It's fun to shoot, I like it better then the 10/22s.

Marlin 336
.32 special. 1946 production, walnut stock, mint condition, and probably the most accurate gun in my collection. Way to expensive to fire though.

Marlin 336
.30-30. Birch stocks, just a basic marlin 336. My first gun and the only gun I bought new.

Marlin Glenfield
30-30. Made in 1979. The wood is pretty beat up and part of the frame is bent. I haven't fired it yet.

Just picked up a No.4 MK1 today
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7263/img1344hu9.jpg

.303 British. Pretty good shape, all the serial numbers match, 1946 production but it's been re-arsoneled.

[Warwitch]

Somebody likes wood :p Thats quite a collection you have there.

[rifleman wi]

Mosin Nagat M91
Decent shape, missing the rear sight, not even sure what caliber it is. Only bought it because it was too cheap not to buy.
is it 7.62x54 like other nagats?

[maxama10]

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/maxama10/DSC01188.jpg
Bushmaster .223

in the background you can see my remington 870 pump :D and the case of a Ruger mini 14


/I know the scope is a little big for the gun but :-| it works!

[MoeMag]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/MoeRoark/08-31-07_0825.jpg


Glock 19-shown w/30rd mag
American Spirit Arms JPS 15. in .223
Rem 700 sps in 30-06 w/ Nikon 4.5-14x40 side focus mildot, some sort of fancy rings, and a harris bipod. -and yes I sit there with my calculator and play with the mildots.
rem 870 super magnum... 3.5" 00 buck :headbang:
Ruger New Vaquero in .45 colt

Oh yeah all my slings are made by a company called "the wilderness tactical"
If you are looking for a sling... this is it. Local company in phoenix. The company I got my AR from is local too... I picked it up at the actual machine shop.

[AirAssault]

http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/12009/1506969529041328042S600x600Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/1506969529041328042hjmXTD)
:shooting:

[PyRo]

is it 7.62x54 like other nagats?
I suppose that's it. I just never bothered to look it up as I need to get a rear sight, a head space gauge, and take the thing apart before I can think about firing it.

[Madmarx]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/MadMarx1/DSCF0002.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/MadMarx1/Guns018.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/MadMarx1/Guns020.jpg

[rifleman wi]

me any my M1 Garand..and me with a MK19, no its not mine, but i get to shoot it and work on it :D :shooting:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7012/img0136xx2.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8919/img0465nb0.jpg

[Warwitch]

Auto grenade launcher ftw! That thing take Nerf rockets? :rofl:

edit: somebody get that man some Foliage gloves :p

[grEnAlEins]

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4249/novauv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4640/k1022rpfmg2.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[druid]

Well, um...I have...a few ........gotta love wearing a badge...eh?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/757.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/759.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/760A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/766.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/772.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/77300000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/775.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/779.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/781.jpg

[druid]

and some more.....heh heh heh......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/790.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/793.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/794.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/79500000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/796.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/797.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/804.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/807.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/80900000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/81000000.jpg

[warbeak2099]

Space reserved for when I can get pics of my Dad's 2nd generation Colt 1851 Navy, 1861 Army, 1847 Walker, 1862 Pocket Police, and 2nd Model 1850 Dragoon. Yes I know, huge Civil War nuts the both of us. Btw, none of them have been turned or fired. That's what the cheapy Pietta 1851 Navy reproduction is for lol.

[Warwitch]

Druid: Thank you, now I need a napkin and a cold shower :hail:

[druid]

Is there ever such a thing as excess??........lol......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/812.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/813.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/817.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/81900000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/822.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/838.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/85500000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/911.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/914R1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/914I.jpg

and I have a bunch more but that's all I want to post...

[Mind'sEye]

http://df53.dot5hosting.com/~mindseye/Guns/image/My%20Guns.jpg

A simple little collection- Rossi Puma .357Mag lever action, Norinco MAK90, Dan Wesson .357Mag, Colt Anaconda .44Mag. Glock 22 40SW

[behemoth]

and I have a bunch more but that's all I want to post...

Tease.

[psychowarden]

Currenty my only firearm.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/psycho_warden/My%20gats/IMG_8254.jpg

[grEnAlEins]

Currenty my only firearm.
I appears you have the same one as I do. Are those 50x bananas? I could not get the 50x to work properly, kept mis-feeding or jamming through the middle 30 shots :(

[MoeMag]

Druid...
What did you do? rummage the evidence locker?

[druid]

Druid...
What did you do? rummage the evidence locker?

LMAO! Naw...it has taken a long, LONG time to amass these pieces. The 2nd Amendment is in place for a reason. I don't mind surrendering my rights to privacy, so long as I'm garenteed the rights to possess them.

The handguns are of a selection of various interests...some for my own personal protection, some for the wife (yes, she carries and is a splendid marksman too), the 18 yr old daughter has her favorites (that she may use IN the house as personal protection when I'm/we're not home) and is very good with them, some are for hunting and I use several for local pistol competitions (IDPA). Others were more of a "curiosity"...

[DvS21]

Mr. and Mrs. Smith don't even have a collection as nice as yours.


If you have an H&K PSG-1 I would love you forever, no homo

[druid]

Mr. and Mrs. Smith don't even have a collection as nice as yours.

LOL...yes they do...


If you have an H&K PSG-1 I would love you forever, no homo

no, that I don't have. The closest thing I have to that is my HK 91...which is sweet BTW..

[rifleman wi]

your my new best friend... awsome collection :shooting:



LMAO! Naw...it has taken a long, LONG time to amass these pieces. The 2nd Amendment is in place for a reason. I don't mind surrendering my rights to privacy, so long as I'm garenteed the rights to possess them.

The handguns are of a selection of various interests...some for my own personal protection, some for the wife (yes, she carries and is a splendid marksman too), the 18 yr old daughter has her favorites (that she may use IN the house as personal protection when I'm/we're not home) and is very good with them, some are for hunting and I use several for local pistol competitions (IDPA). Others were more of a "curiosity"...

[sdlm_]

Nothing on most of you guys, but my wife is not so crazy about guns, so I have what I can.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u167/sdlm/my45.jpg

[LegumeOfTerror]

WASR-10
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_0210.jpg

Auto-5 Light Twelve, JC Higgens Model 20, Remmington 742 Woodmaster .30-06, and a Winchester Model 61
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_0204.jpg

Colt Python .357, Smith and Wesson Model 28 Highway Patrolman .357, and some taurus in .38
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_0208.jpg

Weatherby Vanguard in .30-06
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_01541.jpg

and i have a ruger 10-22. and i know of a man who outguns druid :D

[grEnAlEins]

Auto-5 Light Twelve
:headbang: :headbang: I wish I could afford on. The local Gander Mountain and local gun shop have 4 or 5 for sale between the two of them, but sadly I go to school out-of-state :( :cry:

[warbeak2099]

Others were more of a "curiosity"...

I'm guessing the P90 is one of those lol...

[LegumeOfTerror]

:headbang: :headbang: I wish I could afford on. The local Gander Mountain and local gun shop have 4 or 5 for sale between the two of them, but sadly I go to school out-of-state :( :cry:

its really nice, mine was made in belgium in 1959.

[wetwrks]

Ok Guys, here are some of mine.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010022.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010025.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010121.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010009.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010010.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010013.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010016.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010019.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010127.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010131.jpg

[Mikey B]

What kind of pistol is that next to the Aug?

[warbeak2099]

Friggin nice Calico!

[bornl33t]

5-7

where'd you get it and how much? I've always wanted one.

[MoeMag]

I had some fun today...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/MoeRoark/09-08-07_1625.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/MoeRoark/09-08-07_1630.jpg

I set up a 8.5 x 11 paper target on another hill first at 400 yards then out to about 650.
It took a few shots but I got the hang of it. Thats as far as I have ever tried shooting.
:D

[wetwrks]

What kind of pistol is that next to the Aug?

FN FivesevN. Paid $795 for it and the mags were 20 each. They use the 5.7 round and each mag carries 20 rounds.

[bedspread]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/bedspread/saiga12alow2vh.jpg

[bedspread]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/bedspread/b02b3110-882f-4c45-8de1-41d1ed080b0.jpg

[Soopa Villain17]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p150/bedspread/saiga12alow2vh.jpg


whats that ?

[Soopa Villain17]

Ok Guys, here are some of mine.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010022.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010025.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010121.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010009.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010010.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010013.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010016.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010019.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010127.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010131.jpg


whsts the one under the double barrel ?

[bedspread]

Saiga 12 gauge

it is just a 12 gauge ak-47

[warbeak2099]

Saiga 12 gauge

it is just a 12 gauge ak-47

http://www.tromix.com/images/SaigaZw.jpg

Saiga.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010010.jpg

Not a Saiga.

[Pzippy]

Wow, you've got the Splinter Cell collection going.

[Remington]

Looks like a Heckler & Koch USC.

[LegumeOfTerror]

Wow, you've got the Splinter Cell collection going.
seriously. hes got all the odd gimmicky stuff.

[warbeak2099]

Yea I mean, who the hell has a Calico lol??? Do they even make those anymore?

[Steelrat]

Legally owning firearms=cool

Parading around in camo and tactical gear like an armchair commando=not quite as cool

And that unidentified gun is a HK USC45 carbine. Nice collection, but posing guns with knives and tactical gloves etc. just looks kinda goofy.

[spectre184]

Out of all mine this is my baby

Huglu 103F 12 gauge

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25220542327.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571236)


http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25220542377.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571238)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25220542344.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571237)

next is my Huglu 501G 12 gauge semi

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25221054281.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571276)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25221054330.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571277)

And my Hi-Point 9mm carbine rifle

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25221054313.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6571278)

[Remington]

Very nice O/U you've got there!

[spectre184]

Very nice O/U you've got there!

Thank you!

Went all way to Turkey to get it. Actually it was Operation Northern Watch :ninja:

[Warwitch]

Thank you!

Went all way to Turkey to get it. Actually it was Operation Northern Watch :ninja:


Any chance of getting some closeups of the scroll work on the Huglu 103 :cool:

[spectre184]

Any chance of getting some closeups of the scroll work on the Huglu 103 :cool:

I didn't resize these like I did others. Click on them and it will take you to my putfile album for full size. Here isHuglu website (http://www.hugluarms.com/home.htm) for anyone intrested. I kick myself in the butt for not getting a duoble barrel side by side with same scroll work as OU. But I thought ONW would continue as we had been over there before. It ended day we invaded Iraq.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25318035098.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6580709)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25318035049.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6580708)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25318035068.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6580710)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25318035149.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6580711)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25318035195.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6580712)

[acropilot19]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter. If such a "Toy" happens to be in your hand, plan on getting shot many many times.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd38/acropilot19/IMG_3690.jpg

P.S. Pic of the BRAND NEW CHP issue duty weapon, and my backup/ off-duty carry. Both 40S&W.

[wetwrks]

Looks like a Heckler & Koch USC.

Correct.

[wetwrks]

Yea I mean, who the hell has a Calico lol??? Do they even make those anymore?

Sure, try here:

http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/index.php?page=home

[wetwrks]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter. If such a "Toy" happens to be in your hand, plan on getting shot many many times.

The local police and I are on a first name basis. I play paintball with the local SWAT and police by invite. They don't even seem too upset when I whoop up on em. :D

[MoeMag]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter. If such a "Toy" happens to be in your hand, plan on getting shot many many times.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd38/acropilot19/IMG_3690.jpg

P.S. Pic of the BRAND NEW CHP issue duty weapon, and my backup/ off-duty carry. Both 40S&W.

a little jumpy there.

you from cali huh.

[Pneumagger]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter.

LOL - you realize many many states allow us to carry these "toys" concealed with a permit? Heck, I could toss a loaded assault rifle on my back with a sling and go for a morning jog if I wanted. I love getting the looks from neighbors after range trips when I pull multitudes of firearms out of my trunk. And they thought suburbs were safe :rofl:

I'm going to have to post my guns when my newest addition arrives next weekend.
/space reserved for:
suppressed .22lr
.40s&w
.45acp
.50ae
AR-15
SKS
30-30 lever
12ga shotgun

[bornl33t]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter. If such a "Toy" happens to be in your hand, plan on getting shot many many times.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd38/acropilot19/IMG_3690.jpg

P.S. Pic of the BRAND NEW CHP issue duty weapon, and my backup/ off-duty carry. Both 40S&W.

Wow, over react much? Fact of the matter is, these guys are far too financially invest in these toys to use them in a crime. Statistics will agree with me. :rolleyes:

[Steelrat]

Wow, over react much? Fact of the matter is, these guys are far too financially invest in these toys to use them in a crime. Statistics will agree with me. :rolleyes:

Pictures like some of these give gun control advocates too much ammunition. Like I said before, posing in camo with tactical gear and military style weapons just looks ridiculous. I've seen far far too many pictures of armchair commandos doing it.

[thatkidwiththesilverygun!]

agreed, but its kinda fun sometimes.

[acropilot19]

Some interesting responses...but you have to understand my point of view. Out here in Cali, weapons not allowed loaded & within driver's reach. Must be unloaded and secured in approved container. I've bumped into a few drivers that did not know or agree with this rule. Lucky for us both they were able to follow directions with a gun pointed at them. I deal with ALOT of people that would'nt think twice about killing me, and I must approach all contacts with this in mind. Seeing ALL these guns is a little usettling, but its good to know these kinda arsenals are out there.

[bornl33t]

Some interesting responses...but you have to understand my point of view. Out here in Cali, weapons not allowed loaded & within driver's reach. Must be unloaded and secured in approved container. I've bumped into a few drivers that did not know or agree with this rule. Lucky for us both they were able to follow directions with a gun pointed at them. I deal with ALOT of people that would'nt think twice about killing me, and I must approach all contacts with this in mind. Seeing ALL these guns is a little usettling, but its good to know these kinda arsenals are out there.

Yeah, I carry loaded and chambered. If it's coming out it going to be used. I'm aware of the laws, and I'm aware of your job and the risks it carries. A weapon doesn't mean we are on a different side of the law then you. Guard yourself out there, but don't think a gun is the problem or the answer.

[maxama10]

paranoid yeah? I have no worries about driving around with my loaded AR(nothing chambered of course), I know if im pulled over the cops would just ask me what ive been shooting. :D Shoot(no pun intended), theyd probably stop and chat about it. Just a different mentality, and imho the better of the two. I would hate to live life always scared of some crazy calfornian with a hunting rifle within his reach.

[MoeMag]

paranoid yeah? I have no worries about driving around with my loaded AR(nothing chambered of course), I know if im pulled over the cops would just ask me what ive been shooting. :D Shoot(no pun intended), theyd probably stop and chat about it. Just a different mentality, and imho the better of the two. I would hate to live life always scared of some crazy calfornian with a hunting rifle within his reach.

Exactly... stop and chat about it.
I kidd you not... A few months ago we were out late and two cops stopped to check our cars parked off the road. we saw them a ways off and just walked up loaded to the teeth with all sorts of goodies. I had my shotgun and glock on my hip. then my friends had a S&W AR-15 with a 100rd drum mag, a p-90, a m-14, and the last guy had a sig and 1911.

they hung around for about a half hour there and even shot most of them.

I understand where your coming from being in cali tho.
sad.

Did you all hear that barrett arms (the big 50cal rifles) refuse to sell or provide service or warranty of already owned rifles of any law enforcement branch in California because of californias laws against .50cal firearms in the state.

I think other gun companies should follow.

[PyRo]

agreed, but its kinda fun sometimes.
I'd be pretty embarrassed to do that knowing I look like an idiot.

[PyRo]

Did you all hear that barrett arms (the big 50cal rifles) refuse to sell or provide service or warranty of already owned rifles of any law enforcement branch in California because of californias laws against .50cal firearms in the state.

I think other gun companies should follow.

Are you sure that is true? That would be classic if all the manufacturers, dealers, etc got together and refused to sell anything to law enforcement that was not available to the public.

[Steelrat]

Except law enforcement doesn't set policy in that state. Why should they be put at risk because of the policies the legislature enacts?

[Pneumagger]

Are you sure that is true? That would be classic if all the manufacturers, dealers, etc got together and refused to sell anything to law enforcement that was not available to the public.

I've read that info about the Barrett 50 cal rifles too. Barrett felt insulted that a gun which can be owned in every other state and that has never been used in a criminal manner was banned in California due to it's media portrayal and feel-good legisation. So I guess they refuse to send ANY business to California.

Is it true? I don't know, but they can always get .50BMG rifles from other manufactures. Is it dangerous... hell yeah. But the people who have the skill to actually use 50 cal rifles to their full potential don't buy $8000 weapons to commit crimes.

a) A 1000 yard shot for a novice gun enthusiast is a tough shot... 50cal rifles are used for distances well over twice that.
b) The weapon stands at nearly 5 feet tall and weighes around 30 pounds. Poor choice to conceal or to be mobile with.
c) There aren't that many people out there with big caliber sniper rifles. Commit a crime with a rare weapon and you've just put yourself on the short list of suspects.

[PyRo]

Except law enforcement doesn't set policy in that state. Why should they be put at risk because of the policies the legislature enacts?
Law enforcement doesn't set policy but very often they are a big lobby behind local gun control measures. Then they go and say they need larger weapons. Why does a police officer have more of a right to protect himself then I do?

[wetwrks]

Per a letter by Ronnie Barrett Owner and CEO Barrett Firearms Manufacturing, Inc:

"Barrett cannot legally sell any of its products to lawbreakers. Therefore, since California's passing of AB50, the state is not in compliance with the US Constitution's 2nd and 14th Amendments, and we will not sell nor service any of our products to any government agency of the State of California."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1389702/posts

The police are a part of the government of California and have helped the push to outlaw this firearm even though it has not been used in a crime and is unlikely to be in the future. If you read the linked article you will see a discription of one such incident that the LADP misled government officials and the public about these weapons.

You also need to understand that this is a tactic used by groups that want to eliminate the ownership of all firearms. They start with the largest caliber and push that since it it the largest and abviously most dangerous it needs to be outlawed. But by eliminating it they have a new largest and thus most dangerous caliber that then needs to be outlawed and it continues untill they are all gone.

The kinds of criminals who could afford such an expensive item ($8000.00 and up) will most likely chose a machine gun or grenade launcher or bazooka which can legally be purchased in most states by any law abiding citizen at a similar cost. This thread has pictured similar weapons (short barreled shotguns and silencers) which use the same process to purchase.

Most criminals don't want to try robbing something using a rifle that is 31lbs and 48 to 57 inches in length. Those criminals who want to destroy something (such as an airplaine) would chose an explosive device such as a rocket launcher or grenade launcher (which can be legally purchased and some for much cheaper).

You also need to understand that the groups that want to outlaw firearms are also the enemy of paintball and are a very outspoken opponent of our sport. I have read internal doccuments of some of these groups stating that they want all toy firearms, airguns, and even cammoflage clothing outlawed as it "promotes a violent mindset".

[wetwrks]

Pictures like some of these give gun control advocates too much ammunition. Like I said before, posing in camo with tactical gear and military style weapons just looks ridiculous. I've seen far far too many pictures of armchair commandos doing it.

Then maby we need to quit with all the photos of the paintguns and the like on here. They too are "ammo" for the gun controll advocates. Those same groups want to outlaw paintball and by showing what "evil", violent items you own, you give them ammo to outlaw the sport.

Or maby people need to regain their since of humor.

[Steelrat]

Then maby we need to quit with all the photos of the paintguns and the like on here. They too are "ammo" for the gun controll advocates. Those same groups want to outlaw paintball and by showing what "evil", violent items you own, you give them ammo to outlaw the sport.

Or maby people need to regain their since of humor.

Hey, I get the joke. I own plenty of guns myself. But they are not toys. Especially the ones you own. Posing with all kinds of tactical gear and weapons that some people want to take away from us LIKE they are some sort of toy only gives them ammunition they want and/or need.

I understand the pride of ownership. But having an assault rifle posed with a commando knife and a pair of tactical gloves, or standing in a photo with urban cammo, a thigh holster, and a short barreled shotgun, is only going to look like trenchcoat mafia behavior to a large majority of the population. Don't come crying when they take them away...

[wetwrks]

Posing with all kinds of tactical gear and weapons that some people want to take away from us LIKE they are some sort of toy only gives them ammunition they want and/or need.

Some claim that simply showing photos of firearms gives them "ammo". Who draws the line?

People need to quit being afraid of what the liberal anti-gun might do. It will (and is) getting to the point where the liberal element will shame people into not standing up for their rights.

I WILL NOT BE SHAMED!

And I resent being compared to "trenchcoat mafia". If there were not rules against language I would have a few choice words for you. I am offended.



PS, the shotgun has a 20" barrel and is well over the public legal length.

[Steelrat]

Some claim that simply showing photos of firearms gives them "ammo". Who draws the line?

People need to quit being afraid of what the liberal anti-gun might do. It will (and is) getting to the point where the liberal element will shame people into not standing up for their rights.

I WILL NOT BE SHAMED!

And I resent being compared to "trenchcoat mafia". If there were not rules against language I would have a few choice words for you. I am offended.



PS, the shotgun has a 20" barrel and is well over the public legal length.

If you bothered to read, you'd see that I never compared you to trenchcoat mafia. I said that it might look like trenchcoat mafia behavior to some. Not me.

I couldn't give a crap if the barrel is public legal length or a controlled item you purchased legally. Frankly, I couldn't give a crap if you had minigun. It's irrelevant.

I never said not to stand up for your rights. But flaunting it isn't necessarily the smartest path to keeping our rights to own these firearms. And as far as I'm concerned, as a gun owner, I am entitled to criticize depictions of firearms that I think jeopardize our future ability to own these weapons.

You want my honest opinion. I'll be glad to give it to you. You won't like it though.

[Steelrat]

That having been said, I'd love to have one of your AUGs. Those are fantastic guns.

[nippinout]

Pictures like some of these give gun control advocates too much ammunition. Like I said before, posing in camo with tactical gear and military style weapons just looks ridiculous. I've seen far far too many pictures of armchair commandos doing it.

http://static.flickr.com/29/59880012_913f5a7524_o.jpg

[Steelrat]

http://static.flickr.com/29/59880012_913f5a7524_o.jpg

OH NOES!!!!

[Pneumagger]

http://static.flickr.com/29/59880012_913f5a7524_o.jpg
That picture is photo shopped.

[Steelrat]

That picture is photo shopped.

NO WAI!!!

[Pneumagger]

NO WAI!!!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/ORLYhamster.gif

[wetwrks]

But flaunting it isn't necessarily the smartest path to keeping our rights to own these firearms. And as far as I'm concerned, as a gun owner, I am entitled to criticize depictions of firearms that I think jeopardize our future ability to own these weapons.

That's just it. If you show pics they will claim that you are a psycho and if you don't they claim you have something to hide. It is a no win cituation. But by showing them and that they are an item to enjoy you might draw others into it and thus enlarge the firearm holding crowd.

As for the aug. It is awsome. I do golf balls at 100 yards.

[Hexis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/gunz/775.jpg

What's the boot on the extended magazines for?

I have some 10 round magazines for my 1911 that have nothing extra, they are just longer.

[Pneumagger]

What's the boot on the extended magazines for?

I have some 10 round magazines for my 1911 that have nothing extra, they are just longer.

It's just an aestetic cover to make an XL magazine look prettier from the outside and have a better feel to grip with. Underneath i'm sure a normal welded 1911 extended mag. I very much enjoy my 11rnd extended mags as they are naturally. When I decide to start carrying it, I will probably carry one or two of them as backup mags. they look so ghetto it's hard to not hold the pistol sideways when you shoot it. :p

[Warwitch]

What's the boot on the extended magazines for?

I have some 10 round magazines for my 1911 that have nothing extra, they are just longer.


Thats a slam pad.

[Ole Unka Phil]

With the responsibility of gun ownership also comes the responsibility to not portray other gun owners in a bad light... It does us all no good.

However not sure that play acting should evoke such a vehement threat from someone also burdened with the responsibility of Law Enforcement either. Temper temper!!!

However...

Here is some Mil Spec stuff I have collected for my Cold War era representation (these are all Semi Auto by the way, No class 3) ....

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/cphilip/MilSpecGuns1.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/cphilip/M1Carb30RndBayo.jpg

[SCpoloRicker]

re: Steelrat's attempt to be reasonable:

I work for the trenchcoat mafia. So I'm really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.

;)

/USP 9mm full size, no pics

[rifleman wi]

awsomeness, matches my Garand :shooting:




http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/cphilip/M1Carb30RndBayo.jpg

[Pneumagger]

re: Steelrat's attempt to be reasonable:

I work for the trenchcoat mafia. So I'm really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies.

;)

/USP 9mm full size, no pics

:rofl: yeah cmon steelrat... post some real pictures here. :shooting:

[warbeak2099]

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/cphilip/M1Carb30RndBayo.jpg

Omg M2 Carbine... NICE.

[nulam]

This is why us cops dont mess around anymore. We're obviously outgunned, and we're usually the last to know when its gun-fightin' time. I hope y'all understand, If I ever contact you, and so much as see one of these "Toys" just lying nearby, you're gonna get my gun in your face, and ONE chance to follow my directions to the letter. If such a "Toy" happens to be in your hand, plan on getting shot many many times.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd38/acropilot19/IMG_3690.jpg

P.S. Pic of the BRAND NEW CHP issue duty weapon, and my backup/ off-duty carry. Both 40S&W.

This guy must be the chief of police of Malibu. I hear he's a real reactionary intent on keeping his quiet little beach community just that.

[Dend78]

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/26117145557.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6651358)

here is one of mine 50BMG nothing much else needs to be said :D

obviously this is the stock pic i dont have any pics of mine with the scope on it and all but hey

[SCpoloRicker]

This guy must be the chief of police of Malibu. I hear he's a real reactionary intent on keeping his quiet little beach community just that.

Now that is very much full of win.

[Indignant]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/LittlePaintballBoy/Guns003.jpg

[etjoyride]

^^^ WEEEEAAAAK!!!

/sorry, had to do it
//no wait, i'm not really sorry
///on 3rd thought screw it i don't care

[maxama10]

cyber shot?

[Indignant]

5'11 / 135

word

[bleachit]

Well, um...I have...a few ........gotta love wearing a badge...eh?



when the next civil war breaks out, can I be on your side?
:D

[Warwitch]

This guy must be the chief of police of Malibu. I hear he's a real reactionary intent on keeping his quiet little beach community just that.


LOL, stay out of Malibu you bum!


Edit: Somebody send Indignant a sandwich :p

[Dend78]

^^^^babahahahahahah

"You look like you could use a fish samich!" :spit_take

[etjoyride]

5'11 / 135

word

5'8 (maybe 5'9)
138

word

and no i'm not fat at all

[Indignant]

i'm assuming you're average sized with an average metabolism while i'm somewhat lanky with too fast of a metabolism

[angrysasquatch]

http://showcase.netins.net/web/mrion007/potato3.jpg

[Warwitch]

i'm assuming you're average sized with an average metabolism while i'm somewhat lanky with too fast of a metabolism


Eh, no, Im in the same boat (except for the short part :p ). 6'3" 180#. Just bustin' yer chops.

[Pneumagger]

http://showcase.netins.net/web/mrion007/potato3.jpg
That barrel needs to be longer with that large of a combustion chamber. Your potato gun is terribly inefficient. A combustion chamber with only 100cu.in. of chamber volume running a stoichiometric mixture of propane+air needs over 12 foot of barrel with 1.5" PVC for the barrel.

Plus, it's not a firearm.

[Warwitch]

That barrel needs to be longer with that large of a combustion chamber. Your potato gun is terribly inefficient. A combustion chamber with only 100cu.in. of chamber volume running a stoichiometric mixture of propane+air needs over 12 foot of barrel with 1.5" PVC for the barrel.

Plus, it's not a firearm.


lol, Mythbusters called looking for you :rolleyes:

[Will Wood]

I don't know about inefficient, but this setup works 100x better than that silly aerosol can plus lighter crap. I've out shot in length and power anyone else's setup with something like that.

[etjoyride]

i'm assuming you're average sized with an average metabolism while i'm somewhat lanky with too fast of a metabolism

nope, faster metabolism than normal...skinny, but not lanky.

[druid]

Thats a slam pad.
Correct.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/LittlePaintballBoy/Guns003.jpg
OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I pee from something bigger than that!


5'11 / 135

Me: 6'1" 240 lbs.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/MyTattoo.jpg


when the next civil war breaks out, can I be on your side?
:D

No. If that happens, it's every man for themself - unless you are family. Since you are not family, I'm 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999% sure that you are **** out of luck.

[Indignant]

OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I pee from something bigger than that!


i bet

[lather]

Correct.


OMG...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I pee from something bigger than that!



Me: 6'1" 240 lbs.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/MyTattoo.jpg



No. If that happens, it's every man for themself - unless you are family. Since you are not family, I'm 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999% sure that you are **** out of luck.

lol at 240# you prolly need a mirror to see yer own :dance:

[Pneumagger]

lol at 240# you prolly need a mirror to see yer own :dance:
Naw, when I entered college I was 5'11'' 230lbs with a BMI of 18%
But I stopped paying football and now I'm 240... but i can still see youknowwhat. :p

[druid]

lol at 240# you prolly need a mirror to see yer own :dance:


LOL...yer funny :D .....If I were 5'3"...I could understand your point...but not at 6'1".....lol.

Anyhoo...I like my .45's the most...

[angrysasquatch]

That barrel needs to be longer with that large of a combustion chamber. Your potato gun is terribly inefficient. A combustion chamber with only 100cu.in. of chamber volume running a stoichiometric mixture of propane+air needs over 12 foot of barrel with 1.5" PVC for the barrel.

Plus, it's not a firearm.

That one's not mine, I was just too lazy to take a picture of mine. My combustion chamber's 18 inches long of 6 inch i think with a 1 inch by 4 foot or so barrel. I use quickstart, which has more energy per volume than propane. Canadian winters do wonders for the range (oxygen content). A well-done propane could outdo mine, though, because of better mixture control. How is it not a firearm? It might not meet the government's standard of firearm (low muzzle energy and too slow) but I'm sure it meets a gunsmith's definition.

[Pneumagger]

Winchester Model 94 .30-30
Sears & Roebuck J.C. Higgens shotgun 12ga
Chinese SKS 7.62x39mm
DPMS AR-15 with Harris Bipod and Bushnell 3x-9x Scope (5.56mm/.223)
IMI Desert Eagle .50ae
Springfield Armory 1911-A1 .45acp
CZ 75B .40s&w
SWR Warlock .22lr silencer
Ruger 22/45 .22lr (not pictured)

Click for fullsize
http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3443.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3443.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3447.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3447.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3455.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3455.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3453.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3453.jpg)

http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3445.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3445.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3451.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3451.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3456.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3456.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3450.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3450.jpg) http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/th_100_3459.jpg (http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Gunz/100_3459.jpg)

[behemoth]

^^ So when are we going shooting?

[Warwitch]

Very nice Pneumagger. Looks like you have all the bases covered :shooting:

[spyderkiller]

My Lee Enfield No.4 Mk2. Manufactured May 1950. Rated # 3 Combat Rifle of all time!


http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v129/94/92/12102526/n12102526_35246620_7103.jpg

[grEnAlEins]

I just remembered that I have pic of me, Hermie the hermaphrodite deer that I shot, and my Benelli Nova.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5866/dsc02721te7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Russ]

...these are a few of my fav-or-ite things!...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/RussBert/kimber/clackamasRside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/RussBert/GoldMatchL.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/RussBert/SW625sleft.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/RussBert/92Flaser.jpg

...and my son, rippin' on the AR15 I built

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/RussBert/AR15Dave2.jpg


:shooting:

[Warwitch]

This thread needs some lovin'. Havent posted in ages. Havent bought/built a marker in longer. Still adding to the home defense arsenal though.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6715155097_3292481350.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographyllc/6715155097/)
HK P30 w/ Viridian X5L (Gen 2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographyllc/6715155097/) by Simon Rivers Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/eclipsephotographyllc/), on Flickr

[wetwrks]

Here is one I have been shooting a lot recently:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010055.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010056-1.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010058-1.jpg

[Warwitch]

Hey Simon hows the little one ?


Little ones are good. Running us ragged tho. Both of them are teething at the same time. So lots of :cry: and no :sleeping: .

wrks: how you loving the .50?

[wetwrks]

wrks: how you loving the .50?

I absolutely love it. I was told they would kick about a 12 gauge. Not even that bad. It is really comfortable to shoot.

[babyface]

i feel like i just played call of duty after seeing all these toys. :rofl: :rofl:

[sjrtk]

I like those little Khars. They are really sweet little shooters. Need the finger rest on the mag though.

[IrishRedneck86]

Armscor High Standard 1911 .45ACP will be a favorite for the fact that its over $100 cheaper then any other non Armscor 1911, also the parts fit is better than most non-modified guns as they are hand assembled and fit. As well as the fact that it shoots just as well as any $1000 1911. I just got this one brand new today and put over 200rds though her without a single problem at all right out of the box and the 2 other silver mags are Wilson Combat 8rd. Another fact is it has the longer grip-frame to hold 8rds and with the fact that my palms are pretty wide so I found the Armscor/sub-brands to be alot more comfortable to hold, versus the Kimbers, Remmingtons, and Springfields that I tried since most of them are only 7rd mag wells.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/RedneckRebel86/photo-4.jpg

And also my Maverick HS12

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/RedneckRebel86/308341_10150478940022082_509012081_10327005_750332 284_n.jpg

[93klauss]

Ever been on a fishing trip? Seems theres a lot.

[Chris TS-1438]

Im loving the socom. and the sweeper for that matter. nishe nishe.

[hill160881]

My little cricket. Knowing me the way you all do you must ask. Is it really just a 22 mag. :ninja:

Only kidding. Dont know why i love this so much but out of all my guns, and I have some nice expensive ones, this is my favorite. I got it for from my grandfather when he passed. Along with some others still in OK.
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd410/Where_am_I1/brothers%20Starlet/DSC01717.jpg

[knownothingmags]

Here is one I have been shooting a lot recently:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010055.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010056-1.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/P1010058-1.jpg

should silence the 50 and register the supressor baffel as a desktop paper weight.

then it is legal.

lol

nice stuff everyone.

[rukh013]

http://i1325.photobucket.com/albums/u632/Brandt_K_Mangum/20140120_193502_zpsqcdhijxy.jpg (http://s1325.photobucket.com/user/Brandt_K_Mangum/media/20140120_193502_zpsqcdhijxy.jpg.html)

Since my Dad passed I've been hitting the range more, we used to love plinking around. This is the first gun I've bought new...

looking for new toys, you can never have to many

[Stedspitcher]

"To Hell and Back Performance!" Gotta love a sig, very nice.

[Tunaman]

88976

[vintage]

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/ksappingtn/65-06outdoors002_zps343234e8.jpg

[vintage]

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/ksappingtn/65-06outdoors002_zps343234e8.jpg

one of these years i'll figure this out.

[rukh013]

one of these years i'll figure this out.

was that a joke??? IMG button, right side, upper middle

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/ksappingtn/65-06outdoors002_zps343234e8.jpg (http://s1007.photobucket.com/user/ksappingtn/media/65-06outdoors002_zps343234e8.jpg.html)

[rukh013]

Very nice BTW

[vintage]

nope, no joke:D

[rifleman wi]

I see your laminate stock, and raise you a Nagant!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/607/qgcj.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/gvqgcjj)

[vintage]

i've been thinking about buying one of those.

[38super]

8901189012

Considering my handle, I guess these aren't too surprising.

[rukh013]

89010

STi?

is it a 45?

[38super]

.38 Supercomp. STI frame and slide but the gun is custom built by Dan Bedell out of NY. The other one is also STI frame and slide but built in Canada. Lock work done by me.

[wetwrks]

I see your Nagant and raise you a Ruger Charger

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/def8286f4cfd8f5ec58d4398d70ca468.jpg

[rifleman wi]

I see your Ruger Charger and raise you a National Postal Meter M1 Carbine
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/12/20121117094400317.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0c20121117094400317j)

[vintage]

:hail:

[sjrtk]

I see your Ruger Charger and raise you a National Postal Meter M1 Carbine
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/12/20121117094400317.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0c20121117094400317j)

This is why you had better make sure you buy a CERTIFIED postal meter.

[XM15]

I will raise my 1/3 scale 1874 22 cal Gatling gun. I have been building this for almost 2 years.

89022

I will go all in with my Semiauto beltfed 1919A4 with spade grips and MAG58 tripod.
I built this 15 years ago. It's alot of fun to shoot and very expensive to feed these days.

89023

[leloup]

89110 One of my Black powder beauties.

Also, I found a like where you can enter to win a case of 556 (http://www.bulkammo.com/rifle/bulk-.223-ammo#contest), if anyone is interested.

[Warwitch]

Anybody still shooting real steel out there?

Built and Cerakoted this little plinker a while back.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8667/16416701670_8784aebcc4_c.jpg

[wetwrks]

Anybody still shooting real steel out there?

oh yah...just shot in a .22 competition. For Colorado, Wyoming, and Utah...out of 160 people, my dad placed first in pistol and I was about 30th. In rifle I was 16th and dad was about 50th.


Here are a few of mine:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/ac948af5277045b274f79146e86ae673.jpg

[Warwitch]

Nice collection there. Black on black on black! I love tlhe look of the Tavor. Just cant get over the ergonomics of it.

Here is the side-charger 300 BLK I just built

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7130/26515390763_b003153e32_c.jpg

And ol' faithful

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7019/6715155097_3292481350_z.jpg

[wetwrks]

Like the side charger. :)

That tavor is in 9mm and the forearm is the silencer. Here are a few more:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w214/wetwrks/929e79457bcc10c46563c620ef5e9c68.jpg

[Merce]

What I carry almost everyday at work. Prefer to carry the M1014 though.
92684
Looking into a new handgun for personal use but the recent PRK 2A ruling has me rather contemplative if it's even worth it anymore.

[Warwitch]

Ugh, ya I dont envy you having to deal with Cali bull****.


My scattergun

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7309/27565364086_69b6a3980d_z.jpg

[zulubravo44]

I feel like I'm echoing old ghosts (aka steelrat), but reading through this thread in the wake of Orlando over the weekend (and I know that alone will incense a lot of of you) gives me a whole lot of mixed feelings. Yes, I'm an avid paintball. Yes, I'm also a gun owner (both long guns and hand guns). Yes, I firmly support second amendment rights. I just feel like posts featuring assault style weapons on a forum dedicated to a game where we use gun-like markers to shoot one another is a fuzzy line I'd rather not cross. This is particularly because of the ways some of the pictures portray our members brandishing real weapons in a manner that is basically undistinguishable from the way I, for example, might pose with a paintball gun (i.e. in tactical gear, wearing camouflage).

I get it, the second amendment was put in place by the founding fathers to balance power between the people and the state. Now, the state has a whole lot of firepower behind it, and it takes a "well armed" populace to balance that power. My point has nothing to do with criticising other people's choices as it relates to exercising this constitution-granted, supreme-court-tested right. It does, however, have to do with the right place and the right way to communicate such things.

I've been an AO member for a long time, and I've learned a lot from this community. And I know we have a whole section of the forum dedicated to friendly chat about non-paintball stuff. But for me, this thread blurs a line I'm personally not willing to cross. I've spent many a day and night debating with family, friends, neighbors and strangers that paintball is strictly a recreational sport, and is more like tag than any kind of "war game" that the extreme left wants to portray it to be. This thread really erodes my credibility in that argument, and it doesn't do a lot to attract new players to game in such a polarized environment about gun ownership, self protection, the second amendment and murder rates.

Sorry to get up on my soap box, but I just felt the need to get this out there. I have no doubt that at least some of you will think I'm dead wrong, and I totally respect your opinion. I just don't share it.

[wetwrks]

I guess my question would be...what is the difference between one shooting sport (paintball) and another shooting sport (firearms)?

Personally I see no difference. I have played semi-professionally in paintball and play semi-professionally in firearm sports. I will be competing in a regional shooting competition at the end of the month using similar weapons to those pictured.

Where do we draw the line? Should people use military terms for their paintball names like Zulu or Bravo or a combination of that because it might have the wrong connotation for someone? The name I use (wetwrks) falls into that same boat. Do we need to be PC with people's names because it might hurt someone's feelings? Might offend someone?

I understand people are shocked by the shooting...but would we be having this same discussion were the killings done with a bomb? Would we be having this discussion about people's pocketknives if the killer had used a knife?

Bad people do bad things. The tool is just a means to an end...take away one tool and they just go back to the toolbox for a different tool. Look to Israel...it is difficult to get firearms there but that doesn't stop the terrorists...they go after knives and bombs or steal legally owned firearms from police or military. Look to Paris...they have extremely restrictive firearm laws there yet it did nothing to stop multiple attackers from getting fully-automatic AK47s. Firearms and bombs weren't available on 9-11 so they went to the toolbox and got a different tool (box cutters) to achieve their goal. Demonizing firearms won't stop terrorists.

Also keep in mind that the anti-gun crowd wants anything that even resembles a firearm outlawed. I personally have read internal memos that they want camo clothing banned as it "promotes a violent mindset". Once the guns go away you can bet all paintball will follow.

[blackdeath1k]

Well said wetwrks

[zulubravo44]

Just to be clear, I wasn't at all advocating for any prohibitions on firearms ownership whatsoever, nor was I claiming to be any holier than anyone else. Like I said in my initial post, I myself am a recreational shooting enthusiast. I just think that we should be careful, as a community, to represent a positive image both to our fellow community members and to the wider world, since this is a publicly accessible forum.

While it may be semantic, I take issue with the mixed use of the verb "play" used for both paintball and firearms. I don't "play" with real guns, and I think we as firearms owners have a duty to portray and embody responsible use, even if for entertainment and recreation, when it comes to shooting. That's the real crux of my point: this forum is dedicated to a game that has long struggled with negative connotations of violence and increasing people's propensity to commit violence. While there may be some aesthetic similarities between real guns and paintball markers, my view is that it's really important for us to differentiate the two. And, I think it is very much in our interest, as paintball enthusiasts, to do so.

Pictures in tactical gear brandishing real firearms on a paintball forum is well within the rights of free speech and the basic rules for the forum. I just think it's bad taste that jeopardizes the work we've done to differentiate paintball from more violent pursuits, and it doesn't really help the cause of recruiting new young players when we blur the lines between a game and preparation for real combat.

[Warwitch]

In my experience paintballers have above average respect for firearms. And are very well versed in their safety. Lets keep it light in here and just leave the political dialogue alone.

[wetwrks]

Nothing you do or don't do will separate paintball from real firearms for anyone who is anti-gun. Remove all photos and discussion of firearms from this site and people will still look at paintball in the same light...you still have people running around playing at war in military garb with "guns".

[MoeMag]

If I may:

92711

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOo1BXH08E

[wetwrks]

If I may:

92711

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjOo1BXH08E

That brings back memories of Christmas wishes years ago. Couldn't hardly go to the mall without hitting the cutlery store to look at those sitting in the case along with the .3357 spotmarker, and the 007 Nelspot.

I had a chance to buy about 20 SMG-60 up till about 10 years ago but wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole. They were all from Rocky Flats. If you don't know about Rocky Flats it was one of Americas nuke bomb building plants and they came up missing several pounds of plutonium. During the cleanup and shut down of the place they recovered almost all of the missing material...it was lining the air vents of the building. People had been breathing it...eating it...it was irradiating everything on site...yah...not interested in bringing anything from that place into my home. Additionally the price was as much for a new one and then they would have had to be converted to .68cal.

Here is another of tippmann's products:

https://youtu.be/G9M3de5mISY

Predates the SMG-60.

[MoeMag]

That brings back memories of Christmas wishes years ago. Couldn't hardly go to the mall without hitting the cutlery store to look at those sitting in the case along with the .3357 spotmarker, and the 007 Nelspot.

I had a chance to buy about 20 SMG-60 up till about 10 years ago but wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole. They were all from Rocky Flats. If you don't know about Rocky Flats it was one of Americas nuke bomb building plants and they came up missing several pounds of plutonium. During the cleanup and shut down of the place they recovered almost all of the missing material...it was lining the air vents of the building. People had been breathing it...eating it...it was irradiating everything on site...yah...not interested in bringing anything from that place into my home. Additionally the price was as much for a new one and then they would have had to be converted to .68cal.

Here is another of tippmann's products:

https://youtu.be/G9M3de5mISY

Predates the SMG-60.

Rocky Flats... Thanks for that. That was a good read. Yeah 100% with ya.

As for the tippy 22... Yup. I know it's not much, but I've at least touched one once. lol!

[Warwitch]

I owned an SMG-60. Lost in a move so many years ago :(

[robertreed711]

Anybody still shooting real steel out there?

Built and Cerakoted this little plinker a while back.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8667/16416701670_8784aebcc4_c.jpg

can I get some details on this?

[Warwitch]

Its a Ruger 10-22 inside, mostly KIDD competition parts. The chassis is a Center Balance Ranger. I did the Cerakote job.

http://www.cbrps.com/Ruger.html

Here is a 10 group on a 4" target at 50 yards just screwing around.

https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5790/21500154195_96454e9111.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yKTUMH)

[Ragu310]

Just the handguns:

http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag21/Ragu310/Pistols_zpszxjyi3zn.jpg (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/Ragu310/media/Pistols_zpszxjyi3zn.jpg.html)

[boo]

assault style weapons

Please remove that term from your vocabulary. It was created by Josh Sugarmann, director and founder of the violence policy center. His foundation has taken a lot of money and used it against all shooting sports, including paintball, by associating how we spend our weekends with domestic terrorism and violence.

The idea was to create confusion amongst politicians and the general public that modern sporting rifles were in fact select fire assault rifles. Sales of new select fire assault rifles were already banned in the 86 "firearm owners protection act". This despite the fact that an NFA registered machine gun has only been used in 2 murder cases that I've found, by far making them the least deadly of any firearm.

Josh Sugarmann was also one of the earlier people that created the media dialogue about paintball fields being used as a training camp for radical militias (domestic terrorists).

We need to approach educating outsiders about shooting sports the same way we do in paintball. For almost all of us guns are pieces of sporting equipment, used in both recreational and professional sports. If you know your history of ancient civilization you'll know that sports have been around since the dawn of time as peaceful demonstrations of someone's or some groups martial arts.

Its why we call them paintball markers and modern sporting rifles.

As my own thing I take the perception a step further and don't own any black markers and most of my guns are adorned in wood (despite having 2 models patterned off guns that have been very prolifically used in wars). Just because a gun's black doesn't mean its more deadly, they are just perceived that way. Ironic considering the side that dialogue's coming from...

[going_home]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/e1/89/5be189691f56f0bbf938a98c2deeb87a.jpg

[Warwitch]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/e1/89/5be189691f56f0bbf938a98c2deeb87a.jpg

Alan, it clearly says YOUR firearms. :rofl:

[wetwrks]

Alan, it clearly says YOUR firearms. :rofl:

And that is not a firearm...gun maybe but not a firearm. :)

[going_home]

Alan, it clearly says YOUR firearms. :rofl:

Oh I thought you said forearms

[skipplesandbits]

92759 zulubravobravo and I are ready for saturday. should be an epic 11 hours!

[going_home]

Epic 1st post !



;)