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rory
01-13-2008, 01:57 PM
what are the advanages of a pnuemag over a ult thanks for any info

babyface
01-13-2008, 02:22 PM
i think the pnumag works better with a ult. an advantage is a pnumag can keep up with an electro. other guys would know better this is my 2c. i got my kit from Cyberave68, he would answer an q's

t_boneshacone
01-13-2008, 03:19 PM
basically its a little faster, and cooler if you ask me, pneumags are kind of rare, i really dont know the advantages, but i am thinking it may be a little more reliable, idk how good the ult works though

211
01-13-2008, 05:27 PM
The ULT lightens the trigger pull to 15 oz. (just under a pound) where a pneumag trigger, if set up right, can be activated with 25-50 grams of preassure

Basically most people cant walk a ULT, but you should have no problems walking a pneumag, unless your fingers get retarded like mine

rawbutter
01-13-2008, 06:01 PM
The ULT lightens the trigger pull to 15 oz. (just under a pound) where a pneumag trigger, if set up right, can be activated with 25-50 grams of preassure

Basically most people cant walk a ULT, but you should have no problems walking a pneumag, unless your fingers get retarded like mine

What he said. A pneumag practically feels like an electric gun, except there's no electronics to get screwed up.... and no cheater modes. I've seen people walk a ULT, but it's tough, and your setup needs to be just right.

rory
01-13-2008, 09:59 PM
What he said. A pneumag practically feels like an electric gun, except there's no electronics to get screwed up.... and no cheater modes. I've seen people walk a ULT, but it's tough, and your setup needs to be just right.
thanks for the tips just bought a i frame with a partlystarted pnue mag conversion know I need a lpr what else will I be needing thank again for the help

t_boneshacone
01-13-2008, 10:18 PM
you need THIS (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=FABCO-MSV-2&Category_Code=FLEXTUBE)
and THIS (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=CLIPPARD-MPA-3&Category_Code=FLEXTUBE)

and possibly THESE (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=CLIPPARD-11750-2&Category_Code=FITTINGS)

the barbs are for the msv-2, to connect the hosing to it and all that cool stuff, oh and if you already have this stuff in it please tell me, because if not, you might need some more stuff

rory
01-13-2008, 11:11 PM
you need THIS (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=FABCO-MSV-2&Category_Code=FLEXTUBE)
and THIS (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=CLIPPARD-MPA-3&Category_Code=FLEXTUBE)

and possibly THESE (http://www.airsoldier.com:8080/cgi-bin/mivavm?Merchant2/merchant.mvc+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=CLIPPARD-11750-2&Category_Code=FITTINGS)

the barbs are for the msv-2, to connect the hosing to it and all that cool stuff, oh and if you already have this stuff in it please tell me, because if not, you might need some more stuff
it comes with [not in my hands yet] them msv2 and not sure what else getting it from surf bum who says he could not get it working so may just start it with all new parts thanks for the help soon as I get it will order the parts you say I'll need

t_boneshacone
01-14-2008, 06:28 PM
ok so it doesnt come with the mpa-3 thats what i needed to know, ok so goHERE (http://www.lukescustoms.com/page0027.htm) and scroll down till you see something that ss mpa-3 rams, you will need to buy one of those also

rory
01-14-2008, 07:59 PM
ok so it doesnt come with the mpa-3 thats what i needed to know, ok so goHERE (http://www.lukescustoms.com/page0027.htm) and scroll down till you see something that ss mpa-3 rams, you will need to buy one of those also
think I'm going to put in all new parts:MSV2 MPA3 barbs [same as cocker] what else do I need to order

dyeforever
01-14-2008, 08:28 PM
dont forget the lp hose. you could order a qev for it but its not required.

t_boneshacone
01-14-2008, 09:32 PM
a qev is a waste of money, so you need a msv-2, a mpa-3, dont forget the mpa-3 ram from lukescustoms, a lpr, some lpr hose, and some barbs, a drill, a thread tap, a mill would help.

what most people do is buy the parts and send it to someone to do, which once i finish mine i may start doing that for people

Stayhuge
01-14-2008, 09:41 PM
Hey, just get the parts from Cyberrave68: Pneumag kits and parts (http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=213833) He sells the whole kit, or the parts. The parts work out cheaper through him, because he doesn't kill you on the shipping. Also, the MPA-3 is completely finished for you, with the ram inside. My advise, buy extra hose, a few extra barbs, and extra set screws. Just my $.02.

t_boneshacone
01-14-2008, 10:05 PM
wow i didnt know of anyone on here that sold kits like that, i should have searched, so i would pretty much buy everything from that guy

Stayhuge
01-14-2008, 10:33 PM
Yea, Cyberrave is great. I bought one kit from him, and I just bought a couple of more parts.

rory
01-16-2008, 07:49 PM
Yea, Cyberrave is great. I bought one kit from him, and I just bought a couple of more parts.
getting a hold of cyberrave I've got all the tools what needs to be milled going to do this my self

t_boneshacone
01-16-2008, 08:02 PM
the frame may need some milling i aint 100% sure though, the mpa-3 needs the sides milled on it, and thats about it i think

dixieoutfitter94
01-16-2008, 08:58 PM
I like my ULT because I can RT it at 20-21 or walk it at about 15. I have never had a oneumag but I have played with one and they are cool but I would rather have an RT mag with ULT.... or both. :p My ULT must be just right because its RTs like a mofo and I cna walk it realy easily (thanks maniacmechanic :) ). I have a video uploading of my mag rting and walking the trigger.

Stayhuge
01-16-2008, 09:49 PM
the frame may need some milling i aint 100% sure though, the mpa-3 needs the sides milled on it, and thats about it i think

The MPA-3 from Cyberave is already milled, but the inside of the frame might need to be milled. The Logic Vert Frames need a lot of milling. The RPG Chimera doesn't need any milling (Probably one of the easiest frames to install into. The Airwalk frames don't need any milling either. I think the Intelliframes need milling, but not the top like the Logics, rather in the grip section. Hope this helps.

rory
01-17-2008, 11:29 PM
The MPA-3 from Cyberave is already milled, but the inside of the frame might need to be milled. The Logic Vert Frames need a lot of milling. The RPG Chimera doesn't need any milling (Probably one of the easiest frames to install into. The Airwalk frames don't need any milling either. I think the Intelliframes need milling, but not the top like the Logics, rather in the grip section. Hope this helps.
parts kit ordered going in a inteliframe so I will need to mill it go's on a micro mag body with micro mag rt valve