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MechWarrior
01-21-2008, 04:49 PM
After getting my Mag up and running, I find myself wanting a more reactive trigger. I currently have the ULT but still think it could get better with some more PSI pumping through it!

I would like to get everyone's idea of the best reg/pressure/setup to get the most reactive trigger without runaway. I will start with mine and then everyone can follow in suit. Feel free to add more fields if I'm missing something important.

Gun Setup: XValve w/ LVL10 and ULT
Air System: Center Flag 45/45
Regulator: Center Flag screw in non-adjustable
Input Pressure: 850 (I think that is stock for their HP reg)
Results: Good crisp trigger pull, but not as light as desired. No problem with shoot down (not firing nearly fast enough :( ). FPS seem to range by maybe 3 fps when running though a hopper full of paint.

Carbon Blue
01-21-2008, 06:10 PM
X-valved shimmed ULT with a dynaflowHP or smart parts dualstage or single stage HP maxflo. Both tanks ARE very consistent.

xxkylexx
01-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Dynaflow ftw!!

going_home
01-21-2008, 07:45 PM
Dynaflow ftw!!

Its true.
But you can get a piston kit for the new Nitro-Duck I-reg .
It comes 800 psi output. The pistons are 400, 600, and 1000 output.

I-reg :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Paintball-HPA-Nitroduck-NEW-I-reg-4500-psi-800-output_W0QQitemZ300192297839QQihZ020QQcategoryZ362 87QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Piston kit :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Paintball-Nitroduck-Piston-Kits-For-the-New-I-reg-NIB_W0QQitemZ300192297956QQihZ020QQcategoryZ36287Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

:D

jenarelJAM
01-21-2008, 09:08 PM
I like my flatline. Made by AGD. Works with AGD. Tuna used to have them, I don't know if he does anymore. Adjustable from 0-1200, and pretty consistent.

going_home
01-21-2008, 09:13 PM
I like my flatline. Made by AGD. Works with AGD. Tuna used to have them, I don't know if he does anymore. Adjustable from 0-1200, and pretty consistent.

But it doesnt have system bleed which is miserable if you have to get the valve off.

:(

d4m4don3
01-21-2008, 11:04 PM
But it doesnt have system bleed which is miserable if you have to get the valve off.

:(
stick a slide check valve inline with the hose?
that can bleed it then

Ruler_Mark
01-21-2008, 11:11 PM
dynaflow,, i run it at 900 on my emag and in mech mode i can RT

MechWarrior
01-22-2008, 10:33 AM
X-valved shimmed ULT with a dynaflowHP or smart parts dualstage or single stage HP maxflo. Both tanks ARE very consistent.

So how high is the input pressure set on those regs when you use them? Also what kind of trigger feel are you getting out of them?

Ruler_Mark
01-22-2008, 11:23 AM
dynaflow is adjustable by an allen wrench without the need to empty the tank.

LudavicoSoldier
01-23-2008, 09:42 AM
Dynaflow or AGD Flatline 4500 FTW! I used both on my mags, and was very very happy with the Dynaflow.

TnDeathInc
01-23-2008, 09:45 AM
I have a nitroduck ireg with the 1000psi piston....works like a dream

I have a 4500 FLine- i use a kapp drop forward for it. works even better

I have a SP Adj it works super but has a small leak that is unaudible that will drain the tank in a few days time.

I have a nitrp duck megareg, this is my lease fav of the four i have that are adjustible

MechWarrior
01-23-2008, 05:38 PM
I have a nitroduck ireg with the 1000psi piston....works like a dream

I have a 4500 FLine- i use a kapp drop forward for it. works even better

I have a SP Adj it works super but has a small leak that is unaudible that will drain the tank in a few days time.

I have a nitrp duck megareg, this is my lease fav of the four i have that are adjustible


Sounds like you and I need to talk since you have all 4 of these!

So with the ireg and the 1000 psi piston are you getting a good trigger feel...are you able to walk it basically?

With the flatline what psi are you running and which would you prefer the FL or the SP max flow if it wasn't leaking?

russc
01-23-2008, 07:13 PM
I shaved my on/off pin a little and it's helped my rt quite a bit. In this video I hit 18 in one second in the last burst. (At least that is if I'm reading the goldwave readout correctly) That's on a preset crossfire tank at only 850 psi. I shudder to think what's going to happen when I get my Dynaflow working properly.

Youtube link: Automag RT Pro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOb0v40AtE)

TnDeathInc
01-23-2008, 07:36 PM
FL and THE SP i both have 1200psi running into the valve. I really cant tell the difference, except when the FL breaks i can use mag poarts to fix it...well mostly

TnDeathInc
01-23-2008, 07:37 PM
the ireg gives good rt effect at 1000psi and seems to be the most consistenet and fast recharge

AzrealDarkmoonZ
01-23-2008, 10:21 PM
As far as preset the ireg is pretty darn impressive!
http://ppog.org/testing/Nitroduck/NitroDuckIreg.png

devildog
01-23-2008, 11:00 PM
you wont beat the good ol armageddon

phatty123
01-24-2008, 04:45 AM
I enjoy my Air America Apocalypse.

-Barry

MechWarrior
01-24-2008, 10:22 AM
As far as preset the ireg is pretty darn impressive!
http://ppog.org/testing/Nitroduck/NitroDuckIreg.png

Umm, can you explain this in layman's terms. I think I get the jest of it....ideally you would want it to stay flat at a given pressure (hence the AGD FL) when firing right? Do you not have the 1000 psi pin in, is that why it is hovering around 800 psi?

Ruler_Mark
01-24-2008, 11:58 AM
can someone get a chart on the dynaflow?

AzrealDarkmoonZ
01-24-2008, 01:53 PM
The dips are each shot I fired from my etek.
The band across the bottom is time in seconds.
And yes I have 800psi set.

AzrealDarkmoonZ
01-24-2008, 01:54 PM
Ask and ye shall receive. The Dyanflow has a very *unique* pattern.
http://ppog.org/testing/results/Dynaflow.gif

Ruler_Mark
01-24-2008, 02:49 PM
wow that is wierd looking, care to explain?

211
01-24-2008, 04:21 PM
I get excellent results from my centerflag hyperflow 201
set to about 1000 psi inptu I get all the RT I want, I tried it at 1200 and it was to much for me
I also really like the push button on/off (and it bleeds the system)