***January MOTM Open Class Vote***

[Smoothice]

Open Class vote

jade monkey
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/1/620250436.jpg

madmarx
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l74/MadMarx1/Bruiser004.jpg

lasrsktr
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/lasrsktr/IMG_6722Large.jpg?t=1200531929

olinar
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o172/olinar/emag001.jpg

dewok
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/dewok82/UEFAutomagLeft2.jpg

[Dewok82]

Nice looking group this month, but why is lasrsktr's eligible?

Rule 5) No previous contest winner entries unless it has changed drastically , give others a shot please.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198187

Does changing the on/off and trigger constitute a drastic change?

[Ruler_Mark]

:( i didnt make teh top 5

[Smoothice]

Nice looking group this month, but why is lasrsktr's eligible?

Rule 5) No previous contest winner entries unless it has changed drastically , give others a shot please.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198187

Does changing the on/off and trigger constitute a drastic change?

Well its a new owner. So i'm not sure :confused:

[Smoothice]

:( i didnt make teh top 5

yours is for sale last I checked. Otherwise it would have made it.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226534

[Ruler_Mark]

yours is for sale last I checked. Otherwise it would have made it.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226534

1) Must be your Mag and NOT for sale during the month of the contest.

I listed it halfway through feb, and this is for january so I am not d-q'd

[Smoothice]

1) Must be your Mag and NOT for sale during the month of the contest.

I listed it halfway through feb, and this is for january so I am not d-q'd

wups :cheers:

[Ruler_Mark]

am I in :ninja:

[lasrsktr]

Nice looking group this month, but why is lasrsktr's eligible?

Rule 5) No previous contest winner entries unless it has changed drastically , give others a shot please.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198187

Does changing the on/off and trigger constitute a drastic change?



The marker has changed hands... So its eligible for entry again... there have been a few markers to win twice..

Sorry you don't like it.. But i am proud of the marker and its just a contest...

Also if you don't like the final choices don't vote... Just because you didn't get chosen. and since its one man choosing what wins, maybe the ano scheme didn't quite work or the marker needed a few extra details to actually pull off the look...

[Smoothice]

am I in :ninja:

Sorry bro. Whats done is done. I suppose the rules are up for interpretation. I feel the competition is still going until the winner is declared.

Its nothing personal. I do think your gun is beautiful but I felt it conflicted with the rule. No hard feelings I hope. :cheers:


P.S- Enter that euro x mag you are picking up in next months contest maybe it will be a winner.

[Ruler_Mark]

Sorry bro. Whats done is done. I suppose the rules are up for interpretation. I feel the competition is still going until the winner is declared.

Its nothing personal. I do think your gun is beautiful but I felt it conflicted with the rule. No hard feelings I hope. :cheers:

none taken. just saw someone might be out of the competition so i could taken the slot but doesnt matter i got something cooking up that will win. better than the tiger's current state

[Mechanic79]

The rules should state a full complete gun "AS IS" can't be entered again. otherwise, if a gun WON, then was parted, all of those parts WON and no other gun containing those parts could be entered since they already WON.



I think people should be able to submit their gun(s) as many times as they want. that will get TRUE competition out here.

[Dewok82]

The marker has changed hands... So its eligible for entry again... there have been a few markers to win twice..

Sorry you don't like it.. But i am proud of the marker and its just a contest...

Also if you don't like the final choices don't vote... Just because you didn't get chosen. and since its one man choosing what wins, maybe the ano scheme didn't quite work or the marker needed a few extra details to actually pull off the look...

The rule is quite clear and makes no mention of a stipulation for markers that have changed hands:

Rule 5) No previous contest winner entries unless it has changed drastically , give others a shot please.

I fail to see how even the most liberal interpretation would allow for new owners to resubmit previous contest winners.

There may have been a few markers that won twice in the past, but the rule disallowing previous contest winners is fairly new.

[Dewok82]

The rules should state a full complete gun "AS IS" can't be entered again. otherwise, if a gun WON, then was parted, all of those parts WON and no other gun containing those parts could be entered since they already WON.


I believe the "unless it has changed drastically" caveat significantly mitigates this concern.

[Sumthinwicked]

id like to know where my post is is was deleted ?

[Smoothice]

id like to know where my post is is was deleted ?

?

[Warwitch]

Geeze, you would think people are competing for a Nobel Peace Prize here. :rolleyes: Settle down kiddies!

[Sumthinwicked]

dude 2 months in a row someone doesnt want me to compete ;(

[Smoothice]

Now I know why rrfireblade wanted the finalists cut down to only 3. Guess I should have listened.

That would be 40% less chance of :cry: babies

I won't make that mistake again.

[Sumthinwicked]

not a cry baby just curious :confused:

[jade_monkey07]

i kinda hope i dont win :p it looks better now Feb is mine!!!

[Sumthinwicked]

you hope ;)

[Smoothice]

not a cry baby just curious :confused:

I wasn't refering to you. You just posted before I could finish my thought. :rofl:

[jade_monkey07]

If nothing else in this world there will always be hope...wow that hurt

you hope ;)

[Smoothice]

The rule is quite clear and makes no mention of a stipulation for markers that have changed hands:

Rule 5) No previous contest winner entries unless it has changed drastically , give others a shot please.

I fail to see how even the most liberal interpretation would allow for new owners to resubmit previous contest winners.

There may have been a few markers that won twice in the past, but the rule disallowing previous contest winners is fairly new.

Why are you pitching a fit now?

lasrsktr entered his gun on 1-16-2008, 4:53 p.m.
http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2469248&postcount=18

If you were going to cry you should have done it in the contest thread.

[OEM Petey]

Now I know why rrfireblade wanted the finalists cut down to only 3. Guess I should have listened.

That would be 40% less chance of :cry: babies

I won't make that mistake again.

LOL

lets keep this clean guys. As stated, its just a contest :cheers:

There's always next month. and the month after that. and the month after that

and Smoothice has taken over the contest as a favor so cut him some slack

[Ruler_Mark]

LOL

lets keep this clean guys. As stated, its just a contest :cheers:

There's always next month. and the month after that. and the month after that

and Smoothice has taken over the contest as a favor so cut him some slack


arr wheres me pitch fork and torch

[Madmarx]

Hey to all you butt heads voting for that boogga green "devil" mag... STOP IT!!! :mad:

Any future thoughts of voting for that P.O.S. don't waste your time and vote for the Beautiful Black Karta Emag!!! :headbang:

[Smoothice]

arr wheres me pitch fork and torch

what ever you're hunting I like mine medium well :headbang:

[Mechanic79]

I believe the "unless it has changed drastically" caveat significantly mitigates this concern.

Is there an equation that defines "drastically"?

That devilmag has a different valve, trigger, ball detents, on/off asa, different on/off mounting screws, thumb screw, different eyes, shorter macro line, different battery,

...well you get the picture, it seems drastically different to me.


Once all the "good" guns win. there will be nothing left except mediocracy competing...?

[Smoothice]

Once all the "good" guns win. there will be nothing left except mediocracy competing...?

Then I can start entering some of my guns. :rofl: :dance: :cheers:

[Mechanic79]

Then I can start entering some of my guns. :rofl: :dance: :cheers:

me too. all my AGD stuff is calico-patched-fUgLEy-goodness. :clap: It's like Frankenstein is making monsters in my gear bag

[Ruler_Mark]

Is there an equation that defines "drastically"?

That devilmag has a different valve, trigger, ball detents, on/off asa, different on/off mounting screws, thumb screw, different eyes, shorter macro line, different battery,

...well you get the picture, it seems drastically different to me.


Once all the "good" guns win. there will be nothing left except mediocracy competing...?

we can get our gun's re-annod :headbang:


and im huntin something..

[Dewok82]

Why are you pitching a fit now?

lasrsktr entered his gun on 1-16-2008, 4:53 p.m.
http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2469248&postcount=18

If you were going to cry you should have done it in the contest thread.

Pitching a fit? Crying? I pointed out a rule that was broken and then defended my position. I didn't bother posting in the contest thread because I assumed whoever had the delegated authority to run the contest would know the rules. Obviously, this was a mistake.


Is there an equation that defines "drastically"?

That devilmag has a different valve, trigger, ball detents, on/off asa, different on/off mounting screws, thumb screw, different eyes, shorter macro line, different battery,

...well you get the picture, it seems drastically different to me.


Once all the "good" guns win. there will be nothing left except mediocracy competing...?

This is where common sense would come into play. :rolleyes:

Also, people are putting together new Automags all the time. There are new frames and bodies being made as we speak. I sincerely doubt a lack of "good" Automags for this contest will ever be a concern.

[Smoothice]

Pitching a fit? Crying? I pointed out a rule that was broken and then defended my position. I didn't bother posting in the contest thread because I assumed whoever had the delegated authority to run the contest would know the rules. Obviously, this was a mistake.
.

Sorry. I guess you were under the impression that I am TK's love child that he never spoke about. I sadly do not know everything about mags, past mag competitions, nor where the infamous titanium valves are hidden.

I am also sorry that you feel a rule has been broken.

My only suggestion at this point would be for you to NOT vote for the marker you feel should not be in the competition.

I would also suggest that next time you don't assume.

[questionful]

1dewok
2madmarx

[RavishingEddie]

I thinks its fair because lasrsktr probably spent a whole lot of $$$ to get this gun and compete and all he is getting is a free T-shirt. Give the guy some slack

[PumpMag]

Lasrsktr has always been a finalist. I think this time, he has a winner!

Go AO SoCal !!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang:

[Beemer]

Lets get the votes going folks. :dance:

[Smoothice]

Congrats to lasrsktr

pm me with your shipping info and I will get it to rrfireblade for your prize!