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MrCartoon
03-18-2008, 03:34 PM
Hello im from Germany..

and i found a old marker in my dadīs basement so i think it is an Automag minimag or
something..

I hope somebody can say some about that marker...
is it good or not so?!?!?


So here are some Pictures...!!




http://s5.directupload.net/images/080318/temp/c4aoczqr.jpg (http://s5.directupload.net/file/d/1371/c4aoczqr_jpg.htm)


http://s6.directupload.net/images/080318/temp/hhyrefmw.jpg (http://s6.directupload.net/file/d/1371/hhyrefmw_jpg.htm)

http://s1.directupload.net/images/080318/temp/w37uudtn.jpg (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/1371/w37uudtn_jpg.htm)

http://s7.directupload.net/images/080318/temp/wnpwg8x7.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/1371/wnpwg8x7_jpg.htm)

http://s3.directupload.net/images/080318/temp/4mii99nt.jpg (http://s3.directupload.net/file/d/1371/4mii99nt_jpg.htm)


Can i buy some tuning parts for that marker?? and WHERE?!

Thank u help...

MfgMrCartoon

jonnygros
03-18-2008, 03:42 PM
looks to be an automag from here. There are plenty of options for tuning and upgrading. Wish i could have found a mag in my dad's basement :p

thahouse
03-18-2008, 03:47 PM
looks like a minimag with a classic AIR valve..

MrCartoon
03-18-2008, 03:48 PM
Is it still a good marker? and how much cost it?

is it better when i buy a new one 4 tournaments?

Sorry for all this questions im new in that...

but i playd a littel bit when i was younger just 4 fun.. so now i dont know if its still a good marker


Where can i buy a better air valve???

michbich
03-18-2008, 03:57 PM
Is it still a good marker? and how much cost it?

is it better when i buy a new one 4 tournaments?

Sorry for all this questions im new in that...

but i playd a littel bit when i was younger just 4 fun.. so now i dont know if its still a good marker


Where can i buy a better air valve???

It's worth: maybe 90$US, i don't really know
Good for tournaments: No
Worth modifying: I wouldn't, it would be cheaper to buy a used mag with everything you want already on it.
Good to play just for fun: ABSOLUTELY!!! :headbang:

MrCartoon
03-18-2008, 04:04 PM
ok thank u but in germany it is hard 2 buy a modyfied mag..

and i think it is iligeal 2 ship a mag from the staats or what u think?

AnthonyDStone
03-18-2008, 04:18 PM
Only if airguns are banned or illegal in germany,I'll be shipping one to france soon,should be fine.

Tony

MrCartoon
03-18-2008, 04:24 PM
no there are not ilegal here..

So than maybe i buy one here=)

cause the markers here in germany are all so expensiv and not so good .

thahouse
03-18-2008, 04:37 PM
honestly, air it up with an HPA tank, and see if it works..if it leaks, purchase an oring replacement kit from AGD, and follow instructions that are plastered all over for oring replacement and see what happens..

this marker would be fun to play with if you are playing in the woods with a bunch of friends...but if you are going to play speedball, then this would not be a good marker to play with.

michbich
03-18-2008, 04:48 PM
On a different note. If i remember correctly, the maximum speed allowed in Germany is 215fps. Am i right or am i confused? (It had to do with the power it produced, if it was over 215fps, it was concidered a weapon)

AirAssault
03-18-2008, 05:22 PM
Speed limit is not correct. I can't remember what it was on the field I played, I want to say 280. Be careful with that mag, If it is not F stamped, you will have it taken away if caught with it.

michbich
03-18-2008, 05:29 PM
Speed limit is not correct. I can't remember what it was on the field I played, I want to say 280. Be careful with that mag, If it is not F stamped, you will have it taken away if caught with it.

You are right about the "F". If it's not there, it's concidered a firearm. Sorry about the FPS incorrect statement. I wasn't sure and it was bugging me.

EDIT: it's been bugging me so i did a search, keep in mind that it's PBN and not always a reliable source of information.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1245377

FiXeL
03-18-2008, 05:40 PM
The thing with the F means its a freie waffen (free weapon) and its muzzle energy does not exceed 7,5 joules. For paintball that means 214 FPS. This is required by german law, but not always followed by fields. All paintball markers in germany must indeed have this stamp, otherwise it will be considered a firearm.

If you want to talk to some countrymen, go here: http://www.pbportal.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=57 (automag subforum)

As for parts, there aren't much german shops that still have parts for mags. You could try www.paintballsupplies.nl in the netherlands, but they only stock a few parts. As for importing stuff from the states, what i've heard from german players is that its not a really good idea. On the other hand i've been told by Roguefactor that he does ship parts to germany.

Sumthinwicked
03-18-2008, 06:05 PM
they have a tool store near your home maybe you can buy an f stamp and use a hammer we stamp stuff all the time at work its easy or find out where you can get it stamped yea know might be a good idea

halB
03-18-2008, 06:57 PM
I.
Want.
That.
Expansion Chamber.

Seriously, that's one of those super x chambers that they stopped making. I hear that they go for a pretty penny these days.

MrCartoon
03-18-2008, 07:42 PM
Thank u all guys 4 that informations is a pretty good forum here..


so what is these "Expansion Chamber"?
sorry im not sooo good in english...

So that thing 4 tha F stamp is a GREAT idea =)


halB: Are u interessted in that Expansion Chamber?
how much u wanna pay ?

michbich
03-18-2008, 08:04 PM
The expansion chamber is basicly a large volume to let the liquid CO2 expand into gaz. The little fins act like a heat sink.

MrCartoon
03-19-2008, 11:48 AM
Thank u 4 tha information Michbich..

I think i keep this marker =)

i heard only good things about tha marker
so i think i use it for fun games in the woods