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sunjess
03-23-2008, 10:04 AM
as some of you know I got my tac-one in a bout a week ago, I have been going back and forth about going with a remote line setup or a on the gun rig. I have tried both and I decided that I like the on the gun rig best for my style of play. She is setup with a q-loader up front; I had to trim some of the grip to get the clamp to fit on but its on now and not going anywhere. I also picked up a dye 14' barrel as well as a drop forward, mini ASA with bleed off valve and skull and crossbones grip..Just because. Also have this setup with macroline.

Please give me your honest opinion of what you think. This is my first project and other then a small scratch I put into the body I am pretty pleased with it. If you have any areas that look like can use improvement let me know, I am a n00b when it comes to working on guns but there is only one way to learn.

Thanks!


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/sunjess/000_0478.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/sunjess/000_0479.jpg

teufelhunden
03-23-2008, 10:25 AM
Don't like the drop, don't like the Q, would prefer a black ASA. Otherwise, nice gun :)

MeŠiCX
03-23-2008, 10:35 AM
The Q won't feed like that. You should've used a warp right body. But if you feed the hose over the top, it should work for now.

paintball72
03-23-2008, 10:40 AM
well i dont know much about q loaders because i dont have one but couldnt you flip the q loader head around so it pumps balls out the other side and you can cut down on the hose.

sunjess
03-23-2008, 10:55 AM
I did try that, the Q seems to sag under its own weight when I flip it over. When I got the q-loader I didnt know that the feed system was going to be on that side. I have tested the gun with some reballs, the feeder seems to be working with them but im not sure how it will go with real paint.

Ruler_Mark
03-23-2008, 11:02 AM
get a cms and mount it inbetween the the vert asa and rail

sunjess
03-23-2008, 11:13 AM
where would one get a CMS from, and what does it do?

MeŠiCX
03-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Get from QLoader or you can easily find a used one. It allows for more mounting options and can feed from either side.

sunjess
03-23-2008, 11:57 AM
Thanks med, I ordered the CMS kit, will it also help from keeping the Q from swinging from side to side on the vert ASA? That is sorta annoying, its not a lot but enough to make me not like that rig. I was almost thinking about ditching the Q and getting a vert feed tac-one body and just go the traditional route.

Empyreal Rogue
03-23-2008, 12:07 PM
You could also use the CMS to mount the Q-Loader under the barrel so it'll sit flush with a warp left body.

sunjess
03-23-2008, 12:55 PM
Empyreal Rogue is there any special trick to doing that? Do I need to cut the grip on the ASA or does the CMS take care of all my needs basically?

211
03-23-2008, 02:42 PM
the CMS kit comes with a ton of different styles of brackets for mounting
with the CMS you can set it up just like youve currently got it (I run all my Qs underbarrel), but have it feed from the drivers side and that will shorten up your hose and take those gnarly bends out
heres a pic of my Qloaded mag, the feeds on the oposite side as yours but it will give you an idea
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh13/RevSteel/ActionPacked003.jpg

sunjess
03-23-2008, 03:16 PM
211 thanks a ton for those pics that really helps. Also does your Q loader swing from side to side on your grip or does the CMS kit take care of the swinging?

211
03-23-2008, 03:24 PM
no swing, the socket tightens on the bracket holding it in whatever feed alignment you set it (left, right, straight down....etc)
then I used the short bracket that normally is used to mount like a standard socket (inline with the Qloader) bent it 90 to make a short L, then I used the foregrip mount hole to run a bolt through the bracket, and its a nice solid compact setup

MeŠiCX
03-23-2008, 03:53 PM
With the CMS bracket you can use one of the mounting brackets between the rail and the ASA (bikegrip) like Ruler_Mark suggested earlier.

paintball72
03-23-2008, 07:08 PM
ill appologize now but what forces the balls out of a q loader. is it a spring?

MeŠiCX
03-23-2008, 07:37 PM
Yes it is spring driven.

TnDeathInc
03-23-2008, 07:47 PM
Don't like the drop, don't like the Q, would prefer a black ASA. Otherwise, nice gun :)


i like the drop, i like the q, but a black asa would be nice

Oriande
03-23-2008, 07:49 PM
I have my Q mounted on a plate that is in turn mounted on the frame. I think I first saw this on Warwitch's etac. I used the CMS socket as well.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4898/img1529id1.jpg



Bottom view

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1385/img1531lu0.jpg


IIRC Warwitch's used a warp plate were I just drilled and cut a piece of aluminum.

DanMan
03-23-2008, 07:56 PM
I have my Q mounted on a plate that is in turn mounted on the frame. I think I first saw this on Warwitch's etac. I used the CMS socket as well.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4898/img1529id1.jpg



Bottom view

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1385/img1531lu0.jpg


IIRC Warwitch's used a warp plate were I just drilled and cut a piece of aluminum.
has anyone tried this but mounted the warp plate underneath the valve where old shool mags had a asa.

AltogetherAndrews
03-23-2008, 07:58 PM
I really wish there was a Q loader that was just a little bit smaller than the smallest one they have now. Feels like you're running around with some spacey pulse gun or something.

mostpeople
03-23-2008, 08:04 PM
You guys and your Q-loaders

Honestly now...

AltogetherAndrews
03-23-2008, 08:27 PM
Well, it's a good idea. Personally I just think they are too big and clunky to really be an attractive option, but anything that gets rid of the blobby blob on top of the marker is good news to me.

sunjess
03-23-2008, 08:49 PM
i like the drop, i like the q, but a black asa would be nice



I wanted a black ASA, they just ran out, I could 'Live' with the silver so I got it.


Also with the Q-Loaders, I didnt realize there was so much prep time involved getting them ready for action....winding springs, loading the tubes, if a ball breaks in there forget it, it would take forever to clean it on the field.

I will keep it for now but I am not ruling out going with a regular hopper again.

paintball72
03-23-2008, 09:14 PM
if you do choose to turn back to a normal hopper i sugest that you try a warp feed. they are awsome and no they dont throw the markers balance off. but warp feeds just use a normal hopper on to of them so there is no prep time other than filling your normal pods. although i have been thinking of trying a q loader system for the fun of it.

sunjess
03-30-2008, 05:31 PM
thanks for all of the photos guys. I got my CMS the other day (all though it looked to be in used condition from AIC which I sent them an email about). I hooked everything up and took it to Operation Paintball which is near my house in Northern IL. This is was the first outing for both the Tac-One and the Q-Loader for me. Both performed 110% flawlessly. I had an amazing day out there.

Here is my new and improved Tac-One. The CMS kit is great.



http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/sunjess/000_0480.jpg



http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/sunjess/000_0482.jpg

Empyreal Rogue
03-30-2008, 07:09 PM
You guys and your Q-loaders

Honestly now...

Please don't start this again. No one asked you for your opinion on the Q-Loader, so there's no need for it.

The new changes look great, Sunjess. Looks a lot cleaner. How does it feel?

sunjess
03-30-2008, 08:55 PM
it feels perfectly balanced when a pod is loaded under the barrel. I couldnt be much happier with the setup. I had a lot of people telling me how sweet it looked at the field and when they held it they were suprised by how good it felt.

mobsterboy
03-30-2008, 10:27 PM
why the gauge on your cp on off asa?

sunjess
03-30-2008, 11:47 PM
why the gauge on your cp on off asa?



Just so I can be sure of the pressure of the tank is consistent with what it is suppose to be. The tank only has a gauge for how much air is left not the output pressure. It is suppose to be 800PSI fixed but I like to look at a gauge so I know for sure.