i have seen alot of mods lately

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i'd say early this year i started to look into automags again and i have seen some wild mods for these ladies. mechs shooting like electros n stuff like that. WOW lol. mags have come a long long way !! i have my mag sitting on my lap right now and it still has the classic valve in it and gray powerfeed body haha.

ok back on topic. i have seen deadly wind, spydermag mod, ego frame and so on. what the hell is happening lol. i think they're cool as hell but it defeats the purpose of the classic :) THO i want to build one :D which mod in your own opinion is the coolest yet cheapest ? i don't think rebuilding the mag i have now would be such a great idea. might as well start off fresh ?

[cockerpunk]

i'd say early this year i started to look into automags again and i have seen some wild mods for these ladies. mechs shooting like electros n stuff like that. WOW lol. mags have come a long long way !! i have my mag sitting on my lap right now and it still has the classic valve in it and gray powerfeed body haha.

ok back on topic. i have seen deadly wind, spydermag mod, ego frame and so on. what the hell is happening lol. i think they're cool as hell but it defeats the purpose of the classic :) THO i want to build one :D which mod in your own opinion is the coolest yet cheapest ? i don't think rebuilding the mag i have now would be such a great idea. might as well start off fresh ?

the trick is to have a classic mag you never dink around with, in my case, a very nice classic RT.

and have a nice hotrodded mag you setup to perfection, my ULE Emag.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

the trick is to have a classic mag you never dink around with, in my case, a very nice classic RT.

and have a nice hotrodded mag you setup to perfection, my ULE Emag.

well i don't have an RT :> this is basically what my mag looks like. this is a photo of my first mag.

i looooooovvvvveee that gun. i wish i never sold her :( the trigger on that thing was not heavy at all. i was shooting faster than angels and shockers back in the day :)

but anyways, which would be the best route to go? keep it mech or make it electro ? tho the first thing i will def buy is a x-valve. i have always ran a stock valve in my gun. i had level 10 bolt in the mag below. i never had a problem with classic valve :)


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[890SHAWN]

Cheapest: Boo-yah's are about $100 or less (not the best-I have one).
Better: Hyperframe with 20bps board (I have this one and really like it) or Morlock ($175+)
Betterer: Pneumo conversion ($200+).
Best: Pneumo-electric ($300+). These are the egomags.
With the upgrades of serious mods comes the necessary bolt upgrade to handle extreme cyclic rates (20+ bps). You with need the RT or X to get them maximum performance.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

Cheapest: Boo-yah's are about $100 or less (not the best-I have one).
Better: Hyperframe with 20bps board (I have this one and really like it) or Morlock ($175+)
Betterer: Pneumo conversion ($200+).
Best: Pneumo-electric ($300+). These are the egomags.
With the upgrades of serious mods comes the necessary bolt upgrade to handle extreme cyclic rates (20+ bps). You with need the RT or X to get them maximum performance.

i do remember the boo-yah frame back in the day. my buddy had one on his mag and i remember his gun would shoot without pulling the trigger sometimes haha.

where do you get a hyperframe from ? or do i just gotta get lucky and find one for sale in a forum ?

[890SHAWN]

I found my hyperframe on Ebay, but there are plenty here on AO that can be bought. Just place a WTB ad in the miscellaneous page and ask them to PM you pics and prices and chose which one you want. :D

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i am still undecided on what mod. pneumo mod seems to be what i am aiming for

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[trevorjk]

if you have the know how, a pnuematic mod would only cost around $55 + the cost of an LPR. so anywhere from $55-$100. and if you do it yourself.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

if you have the know how, a pnuematic mod would only cost around $55 + the cost of an LPR. so anywhere from $55-$100. and if you do it yourself.


i think i have this figured out now. i am gonna order what i need to build this thing. i will most definatly take pictures of before and after :>

[trevorjk]

i think i have this figured out now. i am gonna order what i need to build this thing. i will most definatly take pictures of before and after :>

there are lots of images, and how to's all over AO. i know some one here has a step by step guide as well somewhere

[questionful]

http://www.bigevilonline.com/showthread.php?t=7

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226161

[Mag_User_Since_93]

excellent Smither's excellent. this is gonna be very fun to do. in the mean time. look at my crazy shocker board from 1999 :P and thank you for your help. sure saved me a headache. now it's time to get busy :D oh one more thing. what trigger frames would i be able to use ? recomended.


http://www.geocities.com/hya_cable/shockerboard.html

[wetwrks]

what trigger frames would i be able to use

Intelliframe
AirWalk
AirWalk II
StormWalk
Z Grip
Y Grip
Triton
Chimera

And then there are a number of gripframes made for other markers that can be modified to fit a mag.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i'll have a look at all the frames when i wake up. thanks for all the help so far.

[Toll]

There's alot of guys selling their pnue frames if you are one of the types who are all thumbs.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i think this is more a di it yourself project :> always cool to learn how to do new stuff.

[ThePixelGuru]

If you want really cool you should go totally pneumatic. Fire just as fast as an electro, and you can still hose your 'mag off in between games and watch the kiddies' jaws hit the floor.

[Spider-TW]

i think this is more a di it yourself project :> always cool to learn how to do new stuff.I don't see HPA up here. You will have to have that if you're headed for higher rates. You will need a fast loader as well.

I'm with cockerpunk in that you keep at least one solid mag that you know, and tinker with the rest. Check your prices on frames and valves. If you buy new ones, for the extra money that you may spend on a body and a rail it would be worth it to have a whole other mag.

I traded my old AIR valve in on an X-valve. Price-wise it was a fair deal, but not a great deal. Although that X-valve is still in my 'business only' marker, I missed my stainless valve and eventually found a ULE bodied, intelli-framed Classic valve [ :tard: ] that begged to be pneu'd.

On the other hand, if the lack of speed or any other mod keeps a mag in the bottom of the box, then have at it. I don't like to keep museum pieces, I like to see the machine go. I like museums, I just can't afford one (*A-tach* ;) ).

[Mag_User_Since_93]

yeah i use an Egg II. i am most definitely going to buy an x valve. here is the gun that will be the victim. also does AGD still take your old valves to knock off the price of the x valve??

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[Spider-TW]

yeah i use an Egg II. i am most definitely going to buy an x valve. here is the gun that will be the victim. also does AGD still take your old valves to knock off the price of the x valve??
They're still showing the Go X-valve program (http://www.airgundesignsusa.com/Products/xvalve.shtml) .

Old valves on ebay usually run around $50-$60 + s&h, so it is a pretty good deal. Keep your level 10 kit, even if you have to get a level 7 somewhere. I don't think you actually have to send in the bolt anyway.

*edit*
This happened to me and a few others;

If your marker is pretty old (and a non-"classic" valve is a good start), the field strip screw can be too long to hold the x-valve snug on the rail. Before you plan on dropping it in and heading to the field, plan on either grinding a few threads off of the old screw or ordering a new one with the x-valve. The new ones have the urethane washer built in and an allen socket, so it was an improvement for me.

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i have that screw :P

[Mag_User_Since_93]

i think i would be better off keeping my old valve and just buying the x-valve seperate. i never had a problem with just a classic valve and stock bolt :) i never half stroke !