If you could change 3 things about the world..

[Papa_Smurf]

....what would they be?


I'm working on an assignment, I have 2, and need a third.


:cheers:

[Hilltop Customs]

what 2 do you have now?

[MANN]

climate. I would make every climate the same as hawaii. It rains ~ 10-20 min a day, and then is a constant 65-70*

[robnix]

....what would they be?


I'm working on an assignment, I have 2, and need a third.


:cheers:
Gforce frames would ship to all the preorders.

[Papa_Smurf]

what 2 do you have now?

Welfare and the Image of the Republican party( so that means the media).

[Papa_Smurf]

climate. I would make every climate the same as hawaii. It rains ~ 10-20 min a day, and then is a constant 65-70*


Genius.

[Hilltop Customs]

Well, do the three things have to be a realistic changes or can it be anything? do you have to give ways to create the change or anything? Can it be something you would change about people?


1.
Make every person legitimately consider the opposing side of every discussion or argument they have in their life. By "legitimately consider" I mean listening to all sides and choosing the best option with no specific attachment to their own side. This also means every person would have to be honest when discussing or arguing because without being honest the best choice cannot be made.

[gibby]

I can only come up with one...and that's I wish Eve didn't eat the apple. :D

[TeamJackal37]

Stop all Frauds

[beam]

I can only come up with one...and that's I wish Eve didn't eat the apple. :D


LOL! Yes!

[kosmo]

Reparations.

[neppo1345]

Reparations.

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[Pneumagger]

Remove all Liberals from congre... wait no... the face of the planet. That should mitigate 75% of America's problems.
Turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. That disposes of the other 25%.
End Income Tax. Needs no explanation.

[Hilltop Customs]

Remove all Liberals from congre... wait no... the face of the planet. That should mitigate 75% of America's problems.
Turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. That disposes of the other 25%.
End Income Tax. Needs no explanation.

yea killing people is the answer...

how is removal of liberals going to solve any problems? just because problems wouldnt be brought to light doesnt mean they are not there.

[Pneumagger]

yea killing people is the answer...

how is removal of liberals going to solve any problems? just because problems wouldnt be brought to light doesnt mean they are not there.
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[Hilltop Customs]

i'm trippin?

liberals see something they judge as a problem and speak about it, conservatives hold their voice on things they see as problems because of fear of no longer being considered a conservative. Which one creates a problem? the group who voices their opinion, or the people who are forced not to speak their mind by the group they associate with? You can choose not to listen to anyone, but you cant choose to hear someone who cant speak.

[robnix]

i'm trippin?

liberals see something they judge as a problem and speak about it, conservatives hold their voice on things they see as problems because of fear of no longer being considered a conservative. Which one creates a problem? the group who voices their opinion, or the people who are forced not to speak their mind by the group they associate with? You can choose not to listen to anyone, but you cant choose to hear someone who cant speak.
It goes both ways. The left will shut down disagreable opinions just as quickly as the right will.

[Hilltop Customs]

thats why the 1 thing that I would change about the world it would be this:



1.
Make every person legitimately consider the opposing side of every discussion or argument they have in their life. By "legitimately consider" I mean listening to all sides and choosing the best option with no specific attachment to their own side. This also means every person would have to be honest when discussing or arguing because without being honest the best choice cannot be made.

[robnix]

thats why the 1 thing that I would change about the world it would be this:
Too bad we both know what the chances of that ever happening are.

[maxama10]

harsher sentences for parole violators and err world peace :p






oh lawd

[BigEvil]

Remove all Liberals from congre... wait no... the face of the planet. That should mitigate 75% of America's problems.
Turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. That disposes of the other 25%.
End Income Tax. Needs no explanation.


I think I found my running mate for my presidential run.

[gimp]

climate. I would make every climate the same as hawaii. It rains ~ 10-20 min a day, and then is a constant 65-70*


You mean 80-90*, with a good trade wind and no vog. Those are good days in Hawaii.

I would get rid of celebrities. Famous movie/tv stars, and rock stars. These people make a huge impact on so many people. It's a shame.

[sffudapparel]

If I were to answer this question, I possibly would draw a ban, and lots of flak for my answer.
It's not pretty but it'd be my honest truth.

[maxama10]

yea killing people is the answer...

how is removal of liberals going to solve any problems? just because problems wouldnt be brought to light doesnt mean they are not there.


Club of Rome


Edit: just to clarify, they want population control not just liberals and I'm not saying I support them


just throwing it out there

[kruger]

Make women say what they mean/want. No more yes means "no".

That would drop global stress levels to something a mere human can tolerate.

[SCpoloRicker]

LIEburals!!1

/lol kosmo

[edweird]

In no order.
Release the grip on the democratic party that the socialists have.
Release the grip on the republican party that the capitalists have.
Pass an amendment to the constitution that REQUIRES truth in politics.

[Madmarx]

How about we hold everyone responsible for their own stupid decisions. :rolleyes:
No more suing someone for your own stupidity. (how about a little common sense?)
Stop creating new laws to keep the idiots safe.

[babyface]

I can only come up with one...and that's I wish Eve didn't eat the apple. :D


good one

[Madmarx]

Remove all Liberals from congre... wait no... the face of the planet. That should mitigate 75% of America's problems.
Turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. That disposes of the other 25%.
End Income Tax. Needs no explanation.

I think I found my running mate for my presidential run.

I'll vote for you guys!!!! :cheers:

[ll05]

that Jesus would come back sooner

[chafnerjr]

I wish the media would stop calling John McCain a conservative. I think both of our candidates are dangerous, but at least McCain loves his country. In any event as long as we're on politics here's what I'd change:

1) I would remove the electoral college and go to a popular vote for all elections, but leave most of the rest of the system intact.

2) I would nationalize the primary system. As much as I love the NH first in the nation status... this system was devised long ago to allow candidates to travel across the country to expose their views to voters directly. In this day in technology (i.e. Internet, TV, radio, etc.) it is a huge waste of taxpayer time and money. A large political campaign costs about $1million/day to operate. With a national primary (all primaries on the same day nation wide) this would dramatically shorten the campaign season and reduce the overall cost.

3) I would impose a rolling congressional term limit. Meaning that a senator could serve two consecutive 3 year terms, and a representative 3 consecutive 2-year terms before having to step down... here's the kicker. I said "consecutive terms" meaning that they could run again 1 term after stepping down.

Those are my three. Professional politicians are killing this country.

[maxama10]

that Jesus would come back sooner


that religion would fade

[Storminnorman]

That the power of love overcomes the love of power.

[AirAssault]

but at least McCain loves his country. .


I am thinking that because you wrote this, you think Obama doesn't? What proof do you have that JM "loves" his country? Is it how he has changed his mind on pretty much every position he has, simply to try and get elected? Or is he showing the love for his country when he voted against the new GI bill? Or how about when he voted to make it ok to torture people that have been locked up for years without charges or a trial? How about when he said middle class is those that make less than 5 million a year? Oh, I know, it is because he was a POW, at least that's the excuse he gave when he didn't know how many houses he owns. Which one of these things let's us know he loves America? Oh, and of course you have proof Obama doesn't right?


Remove all Liberals from congre... wait no... the face of the planet. That should mitigate 75% of America's problems.
Turn the Middle East into a glass parking lot. That disposes of the other 25%.
End Income Tax. Needs no explanation.
Sorry Pnuemagger but it's your pathetically sad attitude, and that of people like you that are the problem. How about we turn YOUR house and yard into glass? What makes people in the middle east so different than you? Is it the color of their skin? Is it their religion? Or are you just so much of a biggot at this point you forgot why you hate them? What makes your attitude any different than the religious zealots that wish to do others harm? Nothing. You simply live in this country so in typical American fashion, you feel you are right.

The day attitudes like yours change is the day this world starts being a better place to live......Hate is learned, it isn't part of who we are. Sorry something in your life went so wrong you feel the need to hate entire countries of people.

[chafnerjr]

I am thinking that because you wrote this, you think Obama doesn't? What proof do you have that JM "loves" his country? Is it how he has changed his mind on pretty much every position he has, simply to try and get elected? Or is he showing the love for his country when he voted against the new GI bill? Or how about when he voted to make it ok to torture people that have been locked up for years without charges or a trial? How about when he said middle class is those that make less than 5 million a year? Oh, I know, it is because he was a POW, at least that's the excuse he gave when he didn't know how many houses he owns. Which one of these things let's us know he loves America? Oh, and of course you have proof Obama doesn't right?


I'll leave most of your quote alone because I prefaced with "I think both candidates are dangerous", however, for the love of country comment. Yes, I believe that if you spend years being tortured as a POW and you then decide to dedicate your life to the american people/gov that's love of country. I say this regardless of political stance. I think they are both horrible politicians who'd screw everybody for money/power. However, Obama will NOT wear the american flag on his lapel. He believe that the conuntry in it's current form has no hope, hence his political slogan "Hope". Look I know everything's not right or perfect in this world, but to say there's no hope without Obama? I beginning to think he believes he is the only choice for America to survive. Come on now, we have survived many ****ty presidents just fine. All I'm saying is that he does not love our country like McCain... but I think both are bad choices. What else am I left to vote on?

[AirAssault]

I'll leave most of your quote alone because I prefaced with "I think both candidates are dangerous", however, for the love of country comment. Yes, I believe that if you spend years being tortured as a POW and you then decide to dedicate your life to the american people/gov that's love of country. I say this regardless of political stance. I think they are both horrible politicians who'd screw everybody for money/power. However, Obama will NOT wear the american flag on his lapel. He believe that the conuntry in it's current form has no hope, hence his political slogan "Hope". Look I know everything's not right or perfect in this world, but to say there's no hope without Obama? I beginning to think he believes he is the only choice for America to survive. Come on now, we have survived many ****ty presidents just fine. All I'm saying is that he does not love our country like McCain... but I think both are bad choices. What else am I left to vote on?

All a person needs to do is put on a flag lapel pin and it means they love their country? Man, I thought I was safe just believing it in my heart and living it through my actions.... Anyone know where I can get a flag lapel pin?

The people you need to worry about most ARE the people that are wearing the pin and telling the rest of us that because we don't we hate this country. It was the same for anyone that spoke out about the war in Iraq. Well that dog just don't hunt anymore.

Obama's hope isn't that he is the only hope- it is the hope a lot of Americans have that we can turn this country back into the greatest country in the world instead of the laughing stock of the world. It is a hope that we can stop the massive corruption the last 8 years has brought us. It's the hope that, we as a country, will again do what's best for it's population and not what's best for big business. The hope that a president won't sit by and watch as 10's of thousands of people almost die because "Brownie was doing a heck of a job" except of course the job he was supposed to do which was being the head of FEMA (which he didn't do) You see we (Obama and his supporters) know this country deserves better than what we had for the last 8 years. That is the hope he speaks of. That is why he gets my money and my vote. (let's not forget the 84k people that came to hear his acceptance speech)
Take the time to educate yourself about the man and not just what you hear on fox news.

I know some of you won't vote for him because he is a dem.
I know some of you won't vote for him because he is a black man.
How about we stop voting along party lines and start voting for the best person for the job.... McCain of 5 years ago would be a great president, Mcsame of today is just a joke.

[robnix]

Is it how he has changed his mind on pretty much every position he has, simply to try and get elected? .
Snipped the rest because this is the only part I want to comment on.

I sincerely hope you don't think that in this respect Obama is any different. He lied to you about telecom immunity, he lied to you about PAC's and special interests, and he'll continue to lie to you after you vote for him. He's a politician, it's in his genes.

[Hilltop Customs]

I had a decent sized response typed out and closed the tab by accident.....but this should sum it up:

If you believe a word a politician says, especially when campaigning, your an idiot. Everything a politician does and says is an attempt to gain votes, they are literally selling themselves to the majority. If any candidate gave a crap about the country they would have spent the past year working in an attempt to help the country, not campaigning in a political popularity contest.

If you want to hear some real opinions and ideas listen to people who have no chance of winning, or better yet talk to someone whos not a professional popularity contest winner(aka politician).

[chafnerjr]

If you want to hear some real opinions and ideas listen to people who have no chance of winning, or better yet talk to someone whos not a professional popularity contest winner(aka politician).

Well said

[custar]

How about we hold everyone responsible for their own stupid decisions.


In other words, reinstate natural selection for humans. This would end a lot of problems in the long run, but it would be brutal in the short run.



If you want to hear some real opinions and ideas listen to people who have no chance of winning, or better yet talk to someone whos not a professional popularity contest winner(aka politician).

Or read what politicians wrote before they became politicians.

custar

[maxama10]

you're right air assault, a lot of people won't vote for an angry rich black man...

[AirAssault]

you're right air assault, a lot of people won't vote for an angry rich black man...

LoL, angry, rich black man? :rofl:

He may be angry but you know what, millions of Americans are including me, and in a few months we plan on doing something about it.

[maxama10]

what don't you understand?

[Ninjeff]

you DO know that Obama only owns ONE house and Mcain owns 7 right? You do know that right?

[maxama10]

You do realize that I did not mention McCain.

However now that we're on the subject, it's amusing that Air Assault calls him Mcsame.

I know that has to do with Bush, therefore I have to point out that part of the reason the economy is the way it is is due to Clinton's irresponsibility in office.

You do know that he forced lenders to give loans to those who had no business buying the houses that they did? You do know that right?







"Fair Lending Act." ;)

[Ninjeff]

Sure sure. But i was addressing your "angry rich black man" comment. Which, regardless of party affiliation, seems awefuly insensitive, and woefully single minded.

[maxama10]

Now did I say that was my stance? It could be, it might not be... however, the fact remains that this is reality.



Also, Air Assault, Palin would be a first... not unlike Obama

now that is change you can believe in

[drg]

All a person needs to do is put on a flag lapel pin and it means they love their country? Man, I thought I was safe just believing it in my heart and living it through my actions.... Anyone know where I can get a flag lapel pin?

The people you need to worry about most ARE the people that are wearing the pin and telling the rest of us that because we don't we hate this country. It was the same for anyone that spoke out about the war in Iraq. Well that dog just don't hunt anymore.

Obama's hope isn't that he is the only hope- it is the hope a lot of Americans have that we can turn this country back into the greatest country in the world instead of the laughing stock of the world. It is a hope that we can stop the massive corruption the last 8 years has brought us. It's the hope that, we as a country, will again do what's best for it's population and not what's best for big business. The hope that a president won't sit by and watch as 10's of thousands of people almost die because "Brownie was doing a heck of a job" except of course the job he was supposed to do which was being the head of FEMA (which he didn't do) You see we (Obama and his supporters) know this country deserves better than what we had for the last 8 years. That is the hope he speaks of. That is why he gets my money and my vote. (let's not forget the 84k people that came to hear his acceptance speech)
Take the time to educate yourself about the man and not just what you hear on fox news.

I know some of you won't vote for him because he is a dem.
I know some of you won't vote for him because he is a black man.
How about we stop voting along party lines and start voting for the best person for the job.... McCain of 5 years ago would be a great president, Mcsame of today is just a joke.

Amen to this and all you have posted above.

[drg]

Now did I say that was my stance? It could be, it might not be... however, the fact remains that this is reality.

Also, Air Assault, Palin would be a first... not unlike Obama

now that is change you can believe in

Palin was such a disrespectful pander to the base and perceived "disaffected" votes that both such groups should be incensed. But I don't think they even realize they've been insulted to their faces.

[ScatterPlot]

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BTW Air America... one of the reasons that people don't like Obama fans is because of the smugness meter going off the charts. Might try to tone back the Obama-is-perfect there.


/believes we're picking between a douche and a turd sandwich

[Empyreal Rogue]

I am thinking that because you wrote this, you think Obama doesn't? What proof do you have that JM "loves" his country? Is it how he has changed his mind on pretty much every position he has, simply to try and get elected?

Before I say anything I'm not a fan of either candidate running this year. And with that said, Barrack Obama is just as bad as that statement. I was a Clinton supporter and so I always followed a lot of things Obama said, and learned that he constantly flip-flops on issues. Obama has consistently changed his views on MANY topics and issues and 'coincidentally' (No it's not a coincidence), and every time he changes his mind on a view it's always to what is popular in America. And because he does that not many people seem to notice or care, because there's a candidate that's suddenly supporting literally everything that's popular in the majority of americans right now.

A lot of candidates have done that, but to my knowledge in my political history (Since Bill's second term) no one has been this bad. At least John McCain has the gumption to pick a side to an issue and stay there.

Oh looks like Robnix beat me to that comment. Oh well. :P


Sorry Pnuemagger but it's your pathetically sad attitude, and that of people like you that are the problem. How about we turn YOUR house and yard into glass? What makes people in the middle east so different than you? Is it the color of their skin? Is it their religion? Or are you just so much of a biggot at this point you forgot why you hate them? What makes your attitude any different than the religious zealots that wish to do others harm? Nothing. You simply live in this country so in typical American fashion, you feel you are right.

The day attitudes like yours change is the day this world starts being a better place to live......Hate is learned, it isn't part of who we are. Sorry something in your life went so wrong you feel the need to hate entire countries of people.

Joe, I've always liked you so don't take this personally, but I have to agree with AirAssault on this one. There's a considerable lack of world-wide tolerance and quite frankly that sickens me. As someone who is going into a field where I can't allow my personal beliefs to contradict my client's, I honestly have a hard time fathoming up respect for your view. It's so outrageously narrow minded, violent, and down right disgusting I almost feel like vomiting. And I'm not even a full on liberal or democrat.

[Ninjeff]

Out of curiosity, wouldnt it be GOOD to have a canidate that tries to do what the MAJORITY of americans feel is what they need at any given point? I mean, is that the very IDEA democracy is founded on?

No offense, but im pretty sick of having government thats "sticks to its guns" no matter what the population is saying they want to do. Thats not a democracy at all.

When did this whole "flip flopping" thing become so backwards? Its one thing to tell the population that voted for you that "i beleive in roe vs Wade" and then vote to oppose it when no one is looking. Its another thing to say "Well, i dont think Roe v Wade is right, but the People do..." and then support it based on that fact.

Example: Obama doesnt agree with same-sex marriage, but he knows the people that vote for him DO. So if he signs a bill saying its ok, he isnt a "flip flopper" he is just doing what the people put him there to do. In other words, he is doing his job.


Oh, and on the "love his country" thing....well, i love the Houston Texans, but that doesnt mean i'd make a very good quarterback.

I think Obama loves his country as much, if not more, than McCain. Just in a different way.


Also, just for my own personal clarification, and education, what has Obama changed his position on?

[Hilltop Customs]

the thing is they can say anything to agree with the public now, its what they do in office that matters.

I wonder what is most important to a politician, doing whats right ethically, doing whats right in the public's opinion, or doing whats right for corporate america. The last 2 have massive benefits, do what the public likes and you can get re-elected...do whats right for corporations and get massive donations and kickbacks(you know it happens).....but whats the benefit to doing things that are ethically right? maybe thats the problem

IMO the campaign system needs a complete overhaul, right now its setup to earn money, not inform voters. Which is really more important?


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[drg]

Out of curiosity, wouldnt it be GOOD to have a canidate that tries to do what the MAJORITY of americans feel is what they need at any given point? I mean, is that the very IDEA democracy is founded on?

No offense, but im pretty sick of having government thats "sticks to its guns" no matter what the population is saying they want to do. Thats not a democracy at all.

When did this whole "flip flopping" thing become so backwards? Its one thing to tell the population that voted for you that "i beleive in roe vs Wade" and then vote to oppose it when no one is looking. Its another thing to say "Well, i dont think Roe v Wade is right, but the People do..." and then support it based on that fact.

Example: Obama doesnt agree with same-sex marriage, but he knows the people that vote for him DO. So if he signs a bill saying its ok, he isnt a "flip flopper" he is just doing what the people put him there to do. In other words, he is doing his job.

Oh, and on the "love his country" thing....well, i love the Houston Texans, but that doesnt mean i'd make a very good quarterback.

I think Obama loves his country as much, if not more, than McCain. Just in a different way.

Also, just for my own personal clarification, and education, what has Obama changed his position on?

You have made a home-run point here ... exactly what I was going to say, only better. "Sticking to your guns" ain't worth a damn thing if you are wrong. In fact it's that much worse if you refuse to change when you should.

I'm really surprised that that old yarn still exists anyway, what with people "electing" Bush based on one thing and him basically doing the exact opposite. He ran on a platform of unity and tolerance but now leaves the country more divided and intolerant than ever. Word is, he was actually like that before the national party got ahold of him. I'm surprised anyone believes a word Republicans say these days, let alone gives them the mantle of integrity.

[custar]

I'm surprised anyone believes a word Republicans say these days, let alone gives them the mantle of integrity.


Your brush is a little broad there, isn't it?

custar