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soilent green
01-25-2002, 09:56 AM
Hey here are a few Ideas for you to ponder What if your super bolts had titanium instead of stainless its almost 50% the weight and I believe its just as strong. and another one what about making an 88 ci 4500 flatline I play both ternaments and rec ball An when I play rec I need a big tank for lots of shots any one else agree.

Butterfingers
01-25-2002, 10:17 AM
This has been considered before I belive.

If my memory serves me correctly titanium, although stronger, is more brittle than hardened stainelss and will flake off when exposed to the shear forces of the sear.

Cha0tic
01-25-2002, 10:34 AM
titanium is hard to work with and is not very strong....you can put any size 4500psi tank on a 4500 flatline, its not that hard.

Manuel_FZR
01-25-2002, 10:47 AM
I like small tanks - so in my opinion, a 68ci is enough; also at a SupAir game, the 68ci are enough - you can refill it after every game if you shoot really much :D
And you can screw a larger tank in every Flatline - like Cha0tic said!

RSUAVE911
01-25-2002, 11:12 AM
I am sure money is an issue, he is not gonna spend like 400(or whatever) on the flatline, then go and buy an 88/4500 tank without reg..ya know?

Manuel_FZR
01-25-2002, 11:41 AM
You can buy the Flatline regulator alone!

Tim Jacobitz
01-25-2002, 12:06 PM
It depends. Are we talking about the long skinny ones or the short fat ones?

steveg
01-25-2002, 12:22 PM
Actually titanium is not that hard to work with nor
is it weaker than stainless.

Most information on machining titanium compares it to
stainless for ease or difficulty of machining. Like stainless
it work hardens and galls.
So it is no better or worse than stainless.

Titanium has a yield strength ranging from 35000-200000psi
depending on the alloy and heat treatment

Stainless steel ranges from 30000-275000psi again depending
on alloy and heat treatment.

Yield strength is the amount of force that can be applied to
a material and then released without permanently deforming it,
and is the standard measure of a metals strength.

Unfortunately it will have a problem with the sear because
of a low resistance to friction. Darn

An aluminum or titanium body with a steel sear ring might
be interesting though

soilent green
01-25-2002, 12:51 PM
for the tank I would prefer a stubby one but the comp. agd uses Carleton pressure technologies I believe only makes long ones I just think its a nice option to have an 88ci and I'd rather just buy the tank whole as for bolts I'd like to hear toms take on titanium I believe its light and strong enough as for aluminum even though its super Light Like half that of titanium and a quarter of stainless its to weak I'm sure of that.

Smoken
01-25-2002, 05:19 PM
So can I just go out and buy a 68ci ACI tank and screw it into my flatline, and then put the ACI reg on the 47ci tank
that is currently on my Flatline? This would be really nice if it were true.

Manuel_FZR
01-25-2002, 05:38 PM
cool sig, SMOKEN .... really cool ;)

talls
01-25-2002, 07:06 PM
What does that sig mean anyway?

Smoken
01-26-2002, 12:48 AM
Thanks Manuel_FZR. I was hopin' some people would get it.
Talls-- Look at the positions of the ones. That is the only clue I can give:cool:

FooTemps
01-26-2002, 01:05 AM
You need that to be a little more obvious though... It's really hard to tell... I already say that but I'm just giving a suggestion.

Paintchucker
01-26-2002, 01:15 AM
Cut and paste the signature to wordpad. Then change it to a Courier Font, which is not a true type font and will display spaces properly. Then do a search and replace and replace all the 0's with 2 spaces... If you can't get it from my clue in the post subject, here is another clue. It is something Jim Carey would say when he is wearing a mask that makes his face green...


BTW, so not to get too far off the subject. I think Titanium would be cool, but would be much more expensive than SS.

Manuel_FZR
01-26-2002, 02:52 AM
really nice sig ;)
First I thought it is a binary code (but then I thought no normal person could do it :D )... but then, I looked at the sig to see the numbers a little bit hazy, then you can see the writing ;) (like when you look at the 3D-images)

talls
01-26-2002, 02:06 PM
I got it:) Finally, I am terrible at the computer. That is a cool sig man.

Drizit
01-26-2002, 03:51 PM
it's all about the 88ci. when i play outdoor, the field can fill to whatever i want but indoor is a bit diff around here. if you are lucky you get 2000psi at the start of the night, 1000psi at the end.

soilent green
01-26-2002, 08:34 PM
yeah thats whats nice about bigger tanks plus I play in the woods at my buddies once and a while and then I have to last a thousand rounds on one tank as for the bolts I hope tom reads this and puts in his two cents

ArthurDent
01-27-2002, 11:12 PM
i saw a 114ci flatline today....